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Darth_buell
Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 02:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Trying to decide on a 12R or the 1125R. What is the interest rate I could possibly get for great credit.
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Spectrum
Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 08:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interest rates are low right now and HD has some very competitive rates. I got mine back in January and the fed has lowered rates twice since then so I'd expect even better rates now. My loan was at 5.99%.

I had originally planned on paying cash. But with this low rate I decided to finance and use the cash to pay off higher rate credit cards.

(Message edited by spectrum on April 13, 2008)
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Baggermike
Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good advise spectrum.

Darth if you buy the 12R you are always going to thinking about the 1125R,

if you buy the 1125R then you are going to be thinking of what a awesome bike it is,

I had almost the same question? buy a 08 ulysses and doing lots of modifications for power and handling,

or buy the 1125R that had the power I wanted and the handling I wanted but I never owned a sport bike.

I live just outside of Boston Mass so the roads suck around here and I have dented rims on other bikes and the ulysses is perfect for this.

I was talking with a suspension expert on getting the ulysses lowered and I was thinking of modifying the suspension for a lower bike with 6" front and rear wheel travel,

so when I seen the 1125R I had asked him about if 5" of travel would be good with the right suspension for the roads I ride on and he said as long as I am not on a motocross track 5" would be enough.

I thought I could just upgrade the suspension when they come out with better rear shock and front springs,

but the bike surprised me and takes the bumps really good,

I also did not know if I would like the riding position and new that could be changed to,

again I was surprised at how comfortable the riding position is,

so for two month I thought allot and came to the conclusion that I should buy the 11125R,

I think I made the right choice.

I hope this helps you chose what is best for you to own.

Mike
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Brad1445
Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Baggermike
Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 09:52 am:
Good advise spectrum.

Darth if you buy the 12R you are always going to thinking about the 1125R,

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MIke,

I was going to buy the 1125 but as more photos became available I bought an 08 Firebolt.

I am a long time consumer of twin cylinders engines and a Buell/Ducati Handling fan and I LOVE Rotax to boot.

I don't regret my decision. I do find myself in the Buell dealerships looking at the 1125r but its not in a longing way. Its in a why did they not design a new bike for the long waited engine. Taking pieces of Bike parts over a five year window leaves me with the impression that if the looks were done on the cheep, what else was?

The Firebolt (once chosen the best handling bike of all time by Bike magazine) is a great bike at a great price consistent in its looks and even has more low end power than the new model.

I don't think choosing a Firebolt or a Ulysses would be necessarily regrettable choices as they are good bikes in their own right.

I will someday own a Buell with a Rotax engine. Its the basis of the bike I have been waiting for, a high revving 'American' twin. The1125R was obviously very very very desired to be ready for the 25th anniversary, maybe too much. The 26th anniversary edition and following models are likely to be even better.
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Citified
Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 11:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The looks are not done on the cheep, there is a lot of engineering done to get the perfect shape for rider wind protection.
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Ponti1
Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 12:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I love my 1125R, but also wish I had a 12R and 12X in the garage.

Without question, the 1125R has more power and speed potential than any other Buell, but motorcycling is not just about who has the biggest and fastest or none of us would be on Buells at all.

I use my bike to commute 30 miles each way. If the fuel economy of the 1125R does not improve a bit over the 26 MPG I'm currently getting during break-in, a nice used air-cooled XB will be added to the garage soon as well. Note that is ADD, not REPLACE...I have never had more fun on two wheels than I have had so far on the 1125R.

Get the bike that YOU like the best. The only person that can answer the question is you...
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Ponti1
Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 12:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

By the way, the looks of the 1125R may not appeal to everyone, Brad1445. But no one bike is visually pleasing to everyone.

So far (in only 1 week), I have had owners of many differing types of bike come to me out of the blue to compliment my bike (several Harleys, Ducati Monster, Hayabusa, CBR1000RR, VFR 800, Ninja 636, and Yamaha FZ1). Have had not a single person express an overall negative impression of the looks.

I have things about each of their bikes that I like also, but have no interest in owning most of them...
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Baggermike
Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Brad I find the 1125R has more power down low than the ulysses,

could be the weight or six speed trans or both?

the ulysses does weigh allot more.

If I had the money I would have built a custom ulysses but was looking at over 20 grand to get what I wanted and the 1125R gave me it at a cheaper price,

or better yet I could have bought a Waken with a 100 cubic inch sportster motor.

Mike
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Ducxl
Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The 12r is a well sorted out machine.Possible headlight defects still exist.

I disagree with Mike's assessment where you will always be thinking of the 1125r.

I've two air cooled Buells'(X1+XB12r).Two years before my 12r purchase i bought the 996 Superbike.I was VERY happy after the 996 to add the XB12r.They're all fun bikes.

Right now,the 1125r needs some development time.

I do not ride our 12r nearly to it's limits.

If i were Darth_Buell,i'd seriously consider the XB12r.

Many more color combinations now too.I love the white/blue accents the best
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Brad1445
Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 01:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Citified
Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 11:35 am:
The looks are not done on the cheep, there is a lot of engineering done to get the perfect shape for rider wind protection.

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I'm in marketing. Thats how I would sell the over sized top fairing also.

Fact it it not proportioned correctly and is sized to compensate for the width of the side mounted radiators. A 4x8 sheet of plywood also provides lots of rider protection, but I would not choose that either.

I do not mean to be negative in my description just honest. The 1125R is a fine bike that will deliver many smiles for many people without trouble. But there does seem to be reality distortion field around this bike on this web site.

I'm happy that people are happy with there 1125R. Every bike made has its place and the more the merrier. I have a few ugly ones myself.
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Spectrum
Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 01:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fact it it not proportioned correctly and is sized to compensate for the width of the side mounted radiators.

From what I've seen and read, this is an inaccurate statement. As I understand it, the fairing design came straight from the XBRR. In other words the radiator pods had nothing to do with the fairing design.

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong?
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Brad1445
Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm sorry I intended to imply the front is extra wide compared to the tail There is a picture somewhere here with a RR tail on a 1125R and it looks awesome!
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Court
Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 01:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The fairing of the 1125R, in fact the entire shape, is one of the most aerodynamically engineered motorcycles made anywhere in the world.

The design started 16 years ago and was a total "function shall dictate form" exercise. Craig Vetter was even a name that was around during the process and contributed some $$ to Buell research.

I hope, and in fact I may help make it happen, that someone does a presentation on this at Homecoming.

The 1125R shape has been around since shortly I bought my first Buell. The "spilt" radiators had the air flowing the other direction 16 years ago and the design has evolved along with technology but in the engineers and the marketing tug-o-war . . . well the engineers win this one.

The Buell 1125R is an excellent and well engineered motorcycle.

I think some old (when there were less than 10 Buell employees) photos in an upcoming book will stir some controversy.

Court
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Jedipunk
Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 03:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

here you go Brad...


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Court
Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 03:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That is exquisitely done.
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Brad1445
Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 03:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A picture is worth a thousand words, but here is one anyway...

SCWEEETTTT!
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Jedipunk
Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 05:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the compliments guys! It's one of those love it or hate it mods, but it's my bike and I dig it.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 05:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

But there does seem to be reality distortion field around this bike on this web site.

Or from a few members who insist in driving their low opinion of the 1125r looks down your throat.

Darth, Have you seen one in person? If not, you must. Then form your own opinion.
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Az_m2
Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 06:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just got the chance to demo an 1125 today. Wow, what a great looking and great riding bike.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 06:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm guessing I'm "Darth since thats my quote, if so you don't read very well.

Uhhh..maybe YOU need to actually read the thread before dissing the 1125r looks for the millionth time...Darth is the one who started this thread and my comments were directed towards him.
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Brad1445
Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 06:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

mmm, my bad
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Slypiranna
Posted on Monday, April 14, 2008 - 12:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm lost...read again, oh yea, interest rate topic! : )...Back on thread origin, again...

I financed mine too...all good thru HD credit...

My only advise is to make sure you GET the GAP insurance along with the finance...it was stupid cheap and covers your primary insurance deductible along with other drama I hope I/we/you never use.

As for the design of this bike...which I can't help but comment on after reading this thread diversion;

It is a very well thought out and engineered piece no matter how you interpret the "looks"...everything has a purpose, even the hideous Blue paint!

Everyone has an a$$ and an opinion, that is what makes us individuals. That is also why Buell's 1125r is a refreshing change to the me too Jap Liter/Italian bike market.

If we were all the same/bikes the same then this would be a very boring world indeed.

Mine is going all shades of black over the blue as I think we've all been beat up upon enough over the years! Buell included. Nuff said there!

Just get the gap, it's worth the six pack a month! : )...and now back on thread topic, again...

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Darth_buell
Posted on Monday, April 14, 2008 - 03:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Still considering. I live in Tucson, AZ so the thought of a liquid cooled bike is great but I think I read something about rider heat in the cockpit area anyways..............
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Zac4mac
Posted on Monday, April 14, 2008 - 07:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Most of the trip to Texas, I was fighting side-winds and headwinds.
I laid down as far and as much as I could to stop the buffeting.

As hot as it was, I had my faceshield open a clik or two.
No heat on my face, even at 90˚, just cool fresh air.
Well, cooler and fresher than the air in the helmet.
I managed to find the "quiet zone" and the air was not hot.

I don't think anybody's tested this bike's ability in Phoenix in July, but it did just fine in Texas at 91˚.
Coolant temp was 187˚she's supposed to be good to 220˚ or 240˚.

Z
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Monday, April 14, 2008 - 08:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have found that is gets pretty damn toasty in traffic even in the mid-80s. Coolant temps around 200 degrees. Freeway is a totally different story.
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