| Author | Message | ||
     Spectrum |
I came home from work today and tried to start the bike and I get nothing (no dash lights or anything). I got out the volt meter and battery read 5.5 volts. The last time I rode the bike was home from work late Tuesday evening. So it had only be setting for about 2 days. I noticed Tuesday morning and evening when I turned the key on the battery light came on (first time I had seen that). But the bike still started fine. I drove 35 minutes in and about 50 minutes home on Tuesday. Bikes on the charger tonight. Well do some diagnoses tomorrow after its charged. | ||
| Wahoo |
see my thread titled "theft error" http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290431/329833.html (Message edited by wahoo on February 07, 2008) | ||
| Spectrum |
Thanks Wahoo I'll keep that in mind. So far it all checks out this morning after charging the battery overnight. By the way I am not and have not run any accessories on the bike at all. I'm not sure why the battery went dead. Here's the diagnoses I did this morning: Took the battery off the tender and checked the voltage - 12.9 (ok, surface charge) Started the bike and brought it up to operating temperature then checked voltage at various RPM's Idle - 14.0 - 14.1 2000K all the way up to 6000K - voltage stable at 13.8-13.9 Turned the bike off let it set for 20mins - Battery voltage 12.7. Checked Voltage again at 1/2 hour and 1 hour - still at 12.7. I'll keep monitoring the voltage every 1/2 hour this morning, but at this point I'm perplexed as to why the battery went dead. Any ideas? | ||
| Haus |
scope out:http://www.americansportbike.com/shoponline/index. php?app=ccp0&ns=catshow&ref=1125R&count=30&offset= 30 its a 16076 - LED Voltmeter, Dash Mounted maybe you could find a spot for this and always monitor it easily. | ||
| Spectrum |
Good idea Haus. I think that's the Kuryakyn LED Voltmeter. I've looked at them before, but never seamed to get around to thinking I needed one. I'm guess that has now changed. | ||
| Baggermike |
Spectrum do you think you left the bike in park, I think it would be hard to do at night but in the daytime you might not have noticed that the lights were on. if you are looking for a battery gauge I have seen one that give volts, amps, and a few other readings cost around 180, I did find a shift light that checks battery condition at start up and this is what I am buying I think? not made in the USA but I like it, I also think my battery is bad but do not have the bike to replace the battery but when I get it back I am putting a new battery in and see if that solves my problem. the voltage regulator was bad and that can harm the battery so I figure it is best to replace it. Mike | ||
| Spectrum |
Mike - I don't think so, but it does appear that something was draining the battery while the bike was off. It's holding steady at 12.7 volts right now. It's been off and parked for 5 hours and hasn't lost any voltage. I have a Schumacher battery charger/tester. It's inexpensive and does most of what I need it to . I do need to get a low amperage automatic battery tender though. I've been looking for some place local to buy the "Battery Tender Jr". Anybody know of a chain that stocks these? (Message edited by spectrum on February 08, 2008) | ||
| Zac4mac |
Right after I ordered mine online from Deltran, I saw one on the wall at the local Kawi shop... Z | ||
| Ducxl |
Be careful with the chargers amps,you may fry the battery and warp the plates.I did,on a few occasions before i discovered the charger amperage. WTF are you guys doing to these NEW motorcycles! If you've got defective product send it back! The ONUS is on Buell Motorcycle Company to rectify these problems.Don't complicate( or VOID the warrantee)matters by doing your own diagnosis.Sheesh! This is NOT NORMAL! Submitted,respectfully,from a "Rocket" type. | ||
| Baggermike |
Hey Ducxl I was checking out your pictures your bike looks nice. I have my bike at the dealership to figure it out, but I do not have confidence on trained monkeys, the last time I was there they seemed like they did not know how to test the electrical system, I also read that that most mechanics really do not understand the electrical system and how it works, if I get the bike back and still have a problem I have the tools and info to fix it right, I might have the rotor and stator sent out to be redone if it is just a weak charging system. Mike | ||
| Fresnobuell |
I would be curious if those having the problems had bikes built early. Mine is 460 or 480 and up until now the only glitch was conking out coming to a stop--and that has stopped completely as far as can tell. Also, the engine light has come on a couple times and I am not sure what that is attributable to.... | ||
| Nickcaro |
check your oil level..... | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Nickaro...not sure if your post is an answer to mine....but Oil level was corrected a while back and that seems to be when the bike stopped conking out...the engine light started to come on after the oil level was fixed. It would be nice to know why the engine light is being tripped. | ||
| Nickcaro |
not a direct reply to your post, just keeping the oil idea "fresh" to any new comers. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
I hate to say it, but add me to the list of "theft error" dead battery people. Have we figured out what the problem is.....so I can relay this to my dealer | ||
| Baggermike |
All I can say is there is a team in Florida working on one so hope for the best, my bike is in the shop so I can not do any test to I get it back but the bike should be fixed when I get it back, so many problems so little time. Mike | ||
| Thurstonbuell |
Some of these "threads" are scaring me , like dead battery's , fuel boiling , theft errors , stalling and electrical problems , poor mirrors etc..... I stopped at the dealership Saturday , and guess what , the battery is dead . I only hope these are isolated problems and when I take delivery , I can just ride , the season is too short up here in the snowbelt to keep it in the shop ! | ||
| Thurstonbuell |
Not to mention the riding season has'nt even started for alot of new 1125r owners | ||
| Spectrum |
From my experience the charging system works fine till the coolant temperature reaches 195-200 degrees. Definitely a heated related problem that should be fairly easy to sort out. I'm sure BMC will have a fix very soon. Mean while it's a minor issue. I just watch the coolant temperature and if (which is seldom) I get temperatures above 185 degrees, I just put the bike on the tender when I get home. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Spectrum, that would explain why mine died after my warm extended ride on Sunday afternoon. Need to find me a tender... | ||
| Reepicheep |
Relax Thurston... if there are issues, they will be sorted out quickly and the fixes will be easy and free. It's an "internet amplification" thing. Problems bubble to the surface, non problems are silent. Pick a bike and do a search, and you will see all sorts about exploding frames, burning driveshafts, invading aliens, and melting ice cream. There is something going on, but I don't think its anything major. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
+1 Reep, other than being bummed about not riding the 1125r this morning, I am not alarmed as there is soon to be a fix. | ||
| Nickcaro |
+1 with the honorable mouse. I've had some battery issues and needed a jump start twice, while being out. I have not ridden in a few days, but at least I'm getting good use out of that battery tender I bought last year... New products always have a few minor hiccups, its part of the admission price for getting in early. | ||
| Thurstonbuell |
Thanx fella's , I feel better now , must be sunlight deprivation , enough with my doom and gloom , I say " on with global warming " let's melt this snow and let's go ride ! | ||
| Baggermike |
My bike is giving my problems and the coolent temp has never been over 170. Now I am off and riding my sons ulysses because my bike is in the shop and I need a ride to make me feel better to I get my bike back. Mike | ||
| Ducxl |
You guys and temperature  Operating temperature should be 180,what's your manuals say? My 996 operates at 180 unless in colder weather it runs less and THAT ALARMS ME. Oil NEEDS to be at least 180 in order to properly function A very reputable race bike builder(Bruce Meyers) suggested 220 is fine.His racebikes operate at over 260. DO NOT be alarmed if your machines run at 200,mine does all summer long,and routinely hits 210 | ||
| Zac4mac |
Sunday was cold so I played in the garage. I let Loretta run in the garage for about 20 minutes, watching temp and Volts. At first, 50 degrees, 12.7 key on(w/lo-beams), started and saw 14.1 at idle and up. Turned on everything I have - hi-beams, grips on hi, turn and brake - 13.5V @ idle, 14,1 at 3500+. After about 20 minutes, temp was at 179, only lo-beams, 12.7 at idle, everything on, 12.1V, revved to 6K and Volts came up to 12.8 max. The only times(twice) I needed a jump was when I flooded her. I typically run lo-beams and heated grips at the most, rarely use hi-beams. Zack | ||
| Spectrum |
Manual says normal operating range is 140-220 degrees with overheated light come on in excess of 230. My bike is running in the 163-178 degree range with the current temperatures not exceeding 65-70 degrees. The 2 times the coolant temperature has reached 195-200 was in 65-70 degree weather stuck in stop-n-go traffic. Mike - not trying to be insensitive and hope you get your charging system sorted out real soon. But please stop confusing issues. Your bike definitely has a different problem. Ducxl - We are not saying 200 degrees is a problem for the engine, but there is a reported charging system problem that occurs at higher operating temperatures. (Message edited by spectrum on February 12, 2008) | ||
| Ducxl |
Mike's problem is probably exacerbated by his increased current draw.But i make NO mistake. There's a huge problem with the electricals in 1125r models.And it "Ain't" no anomaly judging from the amount of posters HERE having said problems. I'm not trying to be an antagonist.I just find defective products unacceptable.And too many here are ready to accept that "THEY" must correct the problem. No...BUELL WILL | ||
| Baggermike |
I agree Ducxl and when I get it back I will make sure it is right, I bought my own tools to do the testing of everything to do with the charging system and if I find it not working like it is designed to then back it goes. I just would like one simple answer how many watts does the charging system put out at 3500 to 4000 rpms instead of the non cruising 7000 rpms 432 watts 3 phase charging system listed in the book. Mike |
