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Imonabuss
Posted on Monday, January 07, 2008 - 10:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Baggermike is just getting frustrated by the number of people ragging on little details. It's just wintertime and nothing else to do for many. Wait until summer comes and we start having fun with ourr 1125's. Then these guys will sound like: "I really wouldn't go out with Cindy Crawford, she's just got the ugliest mark on her face." Or "You are dating that Playboy bunny? Well, I would never do that, why they are not the smartest I hear." Whine, whine. HTFU and ride!
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Socoken
Posted on Monday, January 07, 2008 - 10:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I cant wait for that day, Imonabuss!!

Off topic, but what in the hell does HTFU mean? I know what STFU means, but whats the "H"?
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Xb9
Posted on Monday, January 07, 2008 - 10:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

After looking at those pictures I had to take a look at mine - I hadn't noticed it. Sure enough there is a small crease there but it's not nearly as noticeable as the one pictured above. On mine you really have to be looking for it, otherwise you would never know it's there.
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Baggermike
Posted on Monday, January 07, 2008 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You hit it on the nose, it is frustrating getting all these emails that contribute nothing, I someone who owns the bike, and when I want to know something I post that question or tip, and if you have a good questions then that is not a bad thing, but I am getting all these emails that are wasting my time, maybe I should have said if someone is thinking of buying one, and wants to know what the owners think, than that is good, the bike is new and has some problems, I expected it, and the owners need answers, I got almost six hundred miles on mine and love it, did two hundred today alone on the hyway, and was a good ride, it is everything I have ever wanted and more, so I should have said if you are thinking of buying one, then ask good questions, but if not, then read and do not post things you do not like about the bike. I get like 30 emails, and most are useless. Mike
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Imonabuss
Posted on Monday, January 07, 2008 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Check out youtube, Socoken.
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C4bird
Posted on Monday, January 07, 2008 - 10:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll agree, at first I thought the fairing was a bit big, but after some seat time and not having freezing cold hands every ride, I am glad they made it the way they did. Not only that, compared to the Ss, freeway riding is now enjoyable. After spending hours staring at it in the garage, it has definately become my favorite thing to look at, even more appealing than the street rod it's parked next too.

To each his own. Some like it, some don't. Not everyone is going to have the same opinion of it and this a great thing. If we did, the world would just be way too boring.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Monday, January 07, 2008 - 11:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wish somebody had told me the exhaust welds were ugly while I was riding an 1125r around Mid Ohio.

There I was, enjoying an amazing bike and that amazing motor on a closed track (and on somebody else's Diablos : ) ). Alas, it was all for naught. The muffler welds are ugly. How *could* I have been so stupid and enjoyed myself so much?

Next thing you are going to tell me is that some parts of it are interchangeable with existing models, or perhaps (gasp) even other brands!?!?! Oh, the horror!

I'll just have to retire to the garage and take solace in my paridigm of fit and finish, my 1985 KLR-250, in all it's stamped steel glory!

(If you want to talk about ugly welds... spend some time with a KLR...)
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M2nc
Posted on Monday, January 07, 2008 - 11:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry Mike, that's not the way it works. As soon as my dealer got their first 1125R, a friend and I rode over on our Ulys and checked it out. I did the same thing some two years ago and bought the first Uly they had. I can not tell you how many questions I have fielded about the Uly over the last two years here and other boards. Some people rant and some people rave about the Uly, but many Buell owners like me have been able to dispel myths and find truths well before anyone else. So I made my point about something I did not like on the 1125R. It is a minor issue that can be easily corrected so a trained eye like mine can be happy with the 1125R too. I like the bike as a whole. I like the looks of the bike and would like to own one or a variant one day. It has never been a requirement of Badweb to be a Buell owner, just a fan and I am that in spades.
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Brad1445
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 12:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Reepicheep
Posted on Monday, January 07, 2008 - 11:17 pm:
I wish somebody had told me the exhaust welds were ugly while I was riding an 1125r around Mid Ohio.
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You need to get out more often, even here the exhaust is not well liked.
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Brad1445
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 12:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Baggermike
Posted on Monday, January 07, 2008 - 10:52 pm:
You hit it on the nose, it is frustrating getting all these emails that contribute nothing, I someone who owns the bike, and when I want to know something I post that question or tip, and if you have a good questions then that is not a bad thing, but I am getting all these emails that are wasting my time, maybe I should have said if someone is thinking of buying one, and wants to know what the owners think, than that is good, the bike is new and has some problems, I expected it, and the owners need answers, I got almost six hundred miles on mine and love it, did two hundred today alone on the hyway, and was a good ride, it is everything I have ever wanted and more, so I should have said if you are thinking of buying one, then ask good questions, but if not, then read and do not post things you do not like about the bike. I get like 30 emails, and most are useless. Mike

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If all Buell ever receives is sterilized edited information they will never grow. I'm frankly shocked how defensive so many are about the looks of the 1125R. I have had two Hayabusa's, thats as ugly as they get.

People pointing that to me does not bothher me, people that lie do. Let freedom ring.

Mike, what are these emails you speak of? Do you mean post here?

This thread is not a question, you can find the subject at the top of the page.

Sorry you do not like people who have different impressions the first time they see the bike in person (see subject)
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Ulywife
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 12:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mike, what are these emails you speak of? Do you mean post here?

He may have his profile set so that he gets e-mail notifications of any new post on threads he's posted on.
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Brad1445
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 12:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

oops, my bad, sorry for this email, and few before it ;)
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Gschuette
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 01:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, the kind that is angled towards the tank so your nuts get crushed. But then again the seat is important aesthetically, You gotta be kidding me.-Fresno

Fresno you get far too easily butt hurt by differing styling opinions on the 1125r. I do not think it beyond the scope of Buell engineers to make a seat that has similar proportions (wide as opposed to narrow) to the 1098 and it still be comfortable. The front of the bike is very wide for a sportbike yet the rear is very skinny.

Kind of like a woman with huge implants and a flat butt to go along with it. It just doesn't match up.

Look I know it isn't a fact, but I think most people will admit that the bike isn't nearly as well finished (I didn't say not as good looking, just not quite as well finished) as a 1098 or even an R1. They both seem more well thought out. The bike just doesn't have a cohesive style. The tail section has been in use for half a decade with no discernible changes. I do not think the XB frame was ever intended to mount radiators and plumbing to. The similar looking 1125r frame makes that obvious. You can't use a frame with the same aesthetics and expect radiators to go on and look good.

I think it is an ugly bike. You disagree. End of story.}
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 05:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You need to get out more often, even here the exhaust is not well liked

Really? You speak for only a handful of people here. I think you have REALLY big balls to speak for anyone other than yourself on this forum.

Compared to many exhausts on the market today, it is damn good looking--and functional to boot. Wow, what a concept. Or you could have the undertail exhausts which burn your ass and/or make you smell like exhaust fumes.

I thought you were leaving us and Buell forever? After that bullshit you posted in about every section, I am surprised you even had the nerve to show your face again. Did you happen to read any of the comments fellow forum members posted in your infamous "I'm leaving" threads?
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 05:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can hear it now..."Yeah, that 1098 sure has a great looking seat." WTF?

You guys are beating on a dead horse about your criticisms of the 1125r looks. I bet most of you haven't even bothered to check one out in person. If you don't like it and have no intention of buying one, why don't you stick the the XB board? Guess some people get off pissing on other people's parades.
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Rocketman
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 05:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

He may have his profile set so that he gets e-mail notifications of any new post on threads he's posted on.

No wonder he's pissed off! That's a lot of emails for nowt, lol.

Hey Mike, you need to check your profile settings.

Rocket
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Trojan
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 05:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You guys are beating on a dead horse about your criticisms of the 1125r looks. I bet most of you haven't even bothered to check one out in person. If you don't like it and have no intention of buying one, why don't you stick the the XB board? Guess some people get off pissing on other people's parades.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as they say. Just because somebody doesn't like the styling of the 1125R doesn't mean they should automatically be barred from commenting on it. If nobody makes constructive criticism then the product will not improve, and this is true for the 1125 as it is for every other product. Personally I think the bike is ugly as sin, and I have seen it in the flesh too. Hopefully the next incarnation will benefit from a restyle that many people are asking for already, and will be the bike that many of us hoped for when it was announced. In the meantime there is always aftermarket bodywork & dark glasses ;)

I do not understand why people are having a debate on looks, it is the performance that matters,

Alas, if only that were true. In a recent survey of sports bike riders in PB magazine 80% of respondents stated that thier buying decision would be based on looks when the performance was similar between various models. If performance was the only factor in choosing a bike then we would all be riding GSXR1000s or Hayabusas rather than V-Twins. Given that the 1125R performance is similar to all the other 'Superbikes' in the market its looks maybe the deciding factor between buying this bike or something else entirely. In the USA it will undoubtedly sell well because it is an American bike and is well priced, but in other markets it will not enjoy this advantage and may struggle to compete against other comparitively priced offerings from other manufacturers.

Jedipunk's modified 1125R with the XBRR seat unit shows how much better the bike can look just by a few simple changes, and I hope that the factory are taking note for future revisions.

(Message edited by trojan on January 08, 2008)
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Bearly
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 09:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I hope they don't.

(Message edited by bearly on January 08, 2008)
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Jackbequick
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 09:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"..Just because somebody doesn't like the styling of the 1125R doesn't mean they should automatically be barred from commenting on it..."

Nor does it mean that they should comment on their dislikes at nearly every mention of the 1125R in nearly every thread.

For the record, I'm tired of hearing it.

Jack
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Brad1445
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 09:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fresnobuell you remind me of a Stepford wife. nd even worse you only read the parts of post you want to see not the entire thread or thought. The world is a great place open your eyes.

So you own a ugly bike, big deal. So do I. O course mine was done on purpose and yours was done on a cocktail napkin after they got a call from Rotax saying the engine was ready NOW!
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Brad1445
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 09:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fresnobuell
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 05:30 am:

You guys are beating on a dead horse....
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Some people care, and want to try and revive the horse.
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Jc000
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 09:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If all Buell ever receives is sterilized edited information they will never grow. I'm frankly shocked how defensive so many are about the looks of the 1125R. I have had two Hayabusa's, thats as ugly as they get.

I've always though Buells were sort of ugly, but in a good way. Sort of like a John Deere tractor or a WWII fighter plane. They look ready for business, like a weapon. Which is perhaps why the XB Lightning and the Blast never truly appealed to me—not angry enough looking.

I do think that straight on from the profile view the 1125r looks disjointed. But I have faith that ergonomics and aerodynamics are behind a much of the design reasoning. Overall, I like the look of the bike, I like the black, and it looks to me like a 146 bhp Buell should.

On another note, I certainly think people should be able to express constructive opinions both positive and negative. I think my M2 is beautiful, but it doesn't bother me if others hate it. In fact, if it was someone who had something intelligent to say, I'd welcome their opinion, good or bad.
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Trojan
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 09:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nor does it mean that they should comment on their dislikes at nearly every mention of the 1125R in nearly every thread.

For the record, I'm tired of hearing it.


I thought this was a Forum?

• noun (pl. forums) a meeting or medium for an exchange of views.

Pretty hard to have an exchange of views when everyone is expected to say the same thing isn't it?

Maybe we should have an '1125R Homage board' just for those who want to sing its praises but are too fragile to hear anything less than 100% complimentary?
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 10:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The more I look at the 1125R exhaust the more elegant and sculpted it looks.
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Andella
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe we should divide it into two separate sections.....1125r tech and a general 1125r section. Keep all opinionated comments OUT of the tech section and let it be just that. Opinions are a good thing of course, but they should have their own home.

/end rant
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Ccryder
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sometimes you just have to get out your milk carton, sit down and spend a few mins. bonding with your bike before you become one-with-it.

Never hurts, I'm still am getting to know my ST after 40 months and 80+k miles.

I guess I'll just have to buy an 1125r in order to "be experienced". (Will my ST or "Bolt" be jealous, what about my Wife being jealous (not if she gets to ride, can't ask for a better Wife than that!)).

Time4Lunch
Neil S.
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Baggermike
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 12:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey guys, I think everyone is getting way to picky on the looks of the 1125R, I am a customizer, I think that these new so called choppers are ugly, and I would never build something like that looks like those bikes, but this is my thought, and I do not share it with anyone, it does not matter, every person has likes and dislikes, and one mans poison, is another mans cure, if you think the bike is ugly so what, it is what it is, and some will love it, and some will hate it, just like custom bikes, some people love them, and some do not, it is a matter of opinion, and this forum should not even exist, look at the ktm rc8, I find that ugly, but that is my opinion, and I would not go on there bord, and post how bad I think it looks, the buell was made to slice thru the air, if you study the aerodiamics of the buell, and how it is made to have no drag,even the exhaust is a desighn to help its aerodiammicts, you would be impressed at how it does in the wind tunnel, and on the track, the styling comes from part wind tunnel, and what works on the xbrr, it is not easy to put radiators on a bike, and have it look good, and work good, take a look at the vrod, if you know the work that went into just the radiators you would know they had allot of problems getting the air into the radiator. Buell is looking for people to hire, maybe you should bitch to them, and tell them how you would make the bike look better? maybe they will hire you, so you can make it look better, then you will know no matter what you do, some are going to hate it, and some are going to love it, it is human nature that makes us different, or we would all look the same, now think of that for a while? I could go on and on but it is riding time so please keep your neg comments to your self, it is also human nature to be jellous, and hate something, because you can not have it. Mike
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Baggermike
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Now I am going for a ride and let everyone see how ugly it is, to bad I wear a full face helmet because my smile will be so big it will make everyone happy. Mike
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Xb9
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 what Court said!

Some things that are new and different - take time to adjust to our liking.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

because my smile will be so big it will make everyone happy. Mike




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