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Barker
Posted on Sunday, December 30, 2007 - 07:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

On my ride today we got 27mpg while riding less the 6k rpms.

This thing sux fuell!

What is everyone else getting?
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Doerman
Posted on Sunday, December 30, 2007 - 07:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Check this thread
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290 431/324143.html?1198849280
for the discussion on fuel mileage.

Mine drank thirstily in the first few miles too. I have 1000 miles on it now and it has settled down. I am getting low thirties during aggressive riding and low 40ies for cruising.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Sunday, December 30, 2007 - 07:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

you mean to tell me you got lousy mileage even with your Tron suit on? j/k Barker
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Donutclub
Posted on Sunday, December 30, 2007 - 08:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm getting about 27mpg as well. I have about 230 miles on the clock.
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Ccryder
Posted on Sunday, December 30, 2007 - 08:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Matt:

Oh you little stinker! You said that you wern't going to get one and.............!

Congrats, what are you doing tomorrow? Can we meet up so I can DROOL?

I had the Bolt' out today just kinda shaking off the dust. The ST needs a rear tire patch so she is waiting for my time.

Give me a shout. 812-760-5015

Neil S.
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Wahoo
Posted on Sunday, December 30, 2007 - 10:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine has 550 miles on it, the fuel average is 30. I didnt buy it because I thought it was gonna be a fuel mizer.. did you?
I have been in and out of the throttle, varying the engine speed. All the miles I have on it are back road and around town, so the mileage is not great, but I expect it will do better when I start letting it cruise more. I got 160 plus out of a tank of fuel this weekend, I didnt figure the mileage exactly, but I know I filled it before 90 mile circle yesterday and today I went 90 miles and had to get gas about 15 or 20 miles from home. The fuel light had been on for 12 miles.
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Barker
Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 12:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Its not mine it is a friend's. He let me ride till it ran out of fuell. We both were a little surprised.

Gotta wurk tomorrow.

(Message edited by barker on December 31, 2007)
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Baggermike
Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 02:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

it has instant and average gas milage and mine averaged 27 but was riding in second gear and third and around 3 to 4 thou rpms but it went to 33 on instant and I was going only 30 mph, if I wanted gas milage I would have bought the blast, I want a american sport bike and I do not like cars but there is one I like and it is the corvett I had a couple a long time ago and would get 18 mpg cruising real easy it was a 32 valve duel overhead cam ZR1 special edition the motor was all alumunim and was a 27k option, this bike feels like the corvette ZR1 and I love it, it is the best bike I have owned and I have had many. Mike
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Ccryder
Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 02:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well darn, you having to work. Anyway, anyone in my neck of the woods? Where did it come from? I really want to see if I'm still inseam challenged on the 1125.

Time2Sleep
Neil
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Barker
Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The bike lives in m'boro. Belongs to a cool dude. I'll have to introduce you some time.

FYI: to me it fits me just like my bolt.

(Message edited by barker on December 31, 2007)
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Ducxl
Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Funny thing isn't it? My tuber and XB get better than 50 MPG/w 1200ccs'. Now my 996 Ducati only gets about 30 MPG,but now has big cams and fuelling,and 13:1 CR.

But fuel economy isn't a consideration when you consider these are high strung sports machines'. Ask and top fueler or racer what their MPG is..
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Rainman
Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Get a Blast for the inner-city stuff (regular 60 to 65 in all city driving, 70 to 72 at 70 mph freeway) and keep the 1125r for what the "r" stands for: Rev, roll-on and race.
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Barker
Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FYI: the 1125R in question is not mine. A friend let me ride it. I'm not complaining about mpg. I was just surprised.

For mpg, I have a scooter for in town that gets 100mpg. With a top speed of 70ish

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Jaimec
Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just don't think it's unreasonable to expect a motorcycle weighing less than 500 lbs, with wind tunnel tuned aerodynamics, to get better gas mileage than my 3,715 lbs, 6-cylinder, automatic transmission station wagon, that's all.
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Doerman
Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 11:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jaimec
Apples to apples please. I have a CTS with six speed transmission. Gingerly handling of the gas pedal nets me 27mpg max. As soon as I step into it more, it drops to 18mpg.

Early break in numbers for my 1125R was around 27mpg. Now it is up to 30 when I am into the throttle. I get 40 mpg when I cruise.
That's not too bad for an R bike.

Long time ago, an annony answered the question like this (and I paraphrase):

"Good for a liter bike and less that the XB." And that's a pretty accurate assessment.
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Bosh
Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"I just don't think it's unreasonable to expect a motorcycle weighing less than 500 lbs, with wind tunnel tuned aerodynamics, to get better gas mileage than my 3,715 lbs, 6-cylinder, automatic transmission station wagon, that's all."

27 to 35 mpg is on par with other V2 sportbikes. My antiquated VTR1000R got around 32 mpg and only made around 100rwhp. 30mpg and 145 ish hp sounds pretty good to me!
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Spatten1
Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"I just don't think it's unreasonable to expect a motorcycle weighing less than 500 lbs, with wind tunnel tuned aerodynamics, to get better gas mileage than my 3,715 lbs, 6-cylinder, automatic transmission station wagon, that's all."

Mileage and emissions standards are tough for cars. Bikes get relatively lax emissions standards and produce high HP per liter. I'll take that trade-off for my sportbikes. Wanna trade an XB for your 1125? It gets great mileage!
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Jaimec
Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 01:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't HAVE an 1125r. I'm waiting on the fence for these guys to help the factory shake out the last few bugs.

That, and some color OTHER than black...
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Brad1445
Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 03:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As a professional bike who ore I would have to agree that is low MPG. Hayabusa 40mpg-45mph Ducati 999 avg low 40's. 06 Buell Ulysses was never less than 50mpg and as high as 65mpg, 08 Firebolt averaging 45mpg

Hopefully it will get better with miles.

(Message edited by brad1445 on December 31, 2007)
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Slaughter
Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 05:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Measure it AFTER at least 2,000 miles and a proper break-in.

(YMMV)
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Diablo1
Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 06:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've never seen fuel mileage change significantly on any vehicle I've owned. I wouldn't expect any improvement with break-in because the engine friction doesn't change significantly. Same thing for stalling problems. They don't improve with break-in. These are excuses that dealers give to customers to brush 'em off so they don't have to do warranty work and actually fix the problems. Short trips kill mileage because of cold engine startups and rich fuel mixtures until the engine warms up. Fill up the tank and run it out in one long trip without stopping - I'll bet you get 40+ mpg.
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Slaughter
Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 07:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My S3 tightened up and almost stopped burning oil after about 2K miles. Never measured mileage until later.

First time I ever measured mileage was about 20K miles and just for once, I really TRIED to max my mileage and at 30K miles, I got almost exactly 60MPG... but at a pace that put me to sleep - barely 60 MPH on long, open back roads in Central CA.

High Mileage on a bike capable of more than 130HP at the rear wheel is just NOT a likely option.

If you want high mileage, go with a small car. There are many with better mileage stats than our bikes. Heck, Sunny's SC1 Saturn still gets 40MPG on the run from LA to Phoenix. It has over 300,000 miles - AND it can pull our single-bike trailer.

If you want good mileage, high performance bikes are NOT the place to get it.
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Slaughter
Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 07:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mileage is pretty rider-dependent.

I think I posted elsewhere that when we were running mileage tests on the SV for endurance racing, the BEST we could get was 17 MPG - on a pretty stock motor but average lap times at 1:34 at Willow were close to 96 MPH - with some heavy throttle usage. That engine could only make 70HP on its best day.
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Xbswede
Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 08:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would agree mileage is rider dependent.

Rider weight, throttle usage, riding conditions all play factors on mileage.

Getting 27-33 MPG on a high performance motor is not unreasonable IMO.

I only get 32 MPG out of my 07 FZ1 for mixed riding. I can get it up to 36-37 if I only do highway at a steady speed.

On my V-Rod which is a 1130cc and revs to 9K. I only get 31 MPG and thats if I am not racing around.

My XB12Ss will get 41 - 51 depending how hard I ride. But then the XB is only a 6800 RPM motor and I don't think you can compare them to the the new 1125R which is a higher revving performance motor.

A riding buddy of mine has a GSXR 1000 and only gets 21-25 when hitting the hills at an aggressive rate.

I think you will find that the 1125R is right in line with other higher revving performance bikes.

As a reference I weigh 250lbs geared up.
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Bigdog_tim
Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I also am close to 250 w/gear. I am getting 33 MPG or so (only 320 miles so far).

I only got low 30's on my XB12R until about 5K miles - then regularly in the mid-40's to mid 50's. I budget 45MPG on road trips (assuming back road, canyon carving - not super-slab riding).

I will be happy with low to mid 40's (which I expect). The performance this bike has is beyond even what I had hoped. I did ride an Inside Pass - didn't buy the bike totally blind. I traded an '02 GSXR 750 - on a GOOD day she got 45 (but normally in high 30's). Of course, I tended to wring her neck every chance I could - but still....

I am not familiar what the other super twins are getting for fuel economy. But given this one is about 13K out the door you can buy a lot of fuel for 5K. As for how long between stops - 40 MPG will get me 200 miles (longer than I want to go on this bike without a break).
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Socoken
Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 10:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Less than 30mpg makes this bike nearly twice as expensive to ride as my m2.

Then again, if a power commander or ecm flash comes out that makes more power and costs even more mpg, Im still gonna buy it.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 01:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey the new tires are supposed to last twice as long.
That oughtta make up for the lower gas mileage.

Z
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Usroute66
Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2008 - 07:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The 1125r is a high performance bike, not your typical aircooled Buell. I have a 2004 Aprilia Tuono. 30 to 35 mpg is about what my Rotax gets (my S3T would get 40's). This motor is so tight, and revs so high, once you break it in and really get on it (and pass just about everybody, probably in 3rd gear) you won't give a crap about the fuel economy. Really, did you expect to get a high performance, high reving bike with scooter mileage?

As written above..."A riding buddy of mine has a GSXR 1000 and only gets 21-25 when hitting the hills at an aggressive rate."

You want to play, you have to pay. You want to travel lots of miles and kick back, get a ULY.
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Kravfighter
Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2008 - 07:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

they're sayin gas will get up to $4.00 by summer. That sucks! I like to tour!.....on a high revving sport bike!
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Brad1445
Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2008 - 08:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Both my 999 and my last Hayabusa consistently delivered 40+mpg and I drive the piss out of my bikes. I think these 1125's mpg will improve with additional mileage.
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