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Garrett2
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 08:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

what is this exactly?
i went and put a large sum of money on my 1125R yesterday and got the 08 buell catalog as well as the 1125R specific brochure and noticed it said this

is this in reference to the heated grips? or is there a 12v cigarette style adaptor somewhere? or what is the deal with this?
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Anonymous
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 10:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's a connector right under the fairing bracket that you can plug in electrical accessories without breaking into or modifying the wiring harness.
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Bobup
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

like a gps !!! cool stuff maynard....i mean Erik
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Dhalen32
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 02:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anon:
Is this accessory socket a low amperage cigarette lighter size or a high amperage BMW/John Deere size? I have had to convert my Ulysses to the BMW/JD socket for plugging in my heated gear or battery tender. Could you please think about going with the smaller positive locking BMW/JD socket? The plugs don't vibrate out using that hardware like they do with the larger cigarette lighter type. Thanks!
Dave
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Garrett2
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 04:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

so this will be like cigarette lighter socket?
holy crap thats awesome!

any other sportbikes offer this currently? i hope not, its not a big deal, but it would be a nice luxury to have, IM STOKED!
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Jaimec
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 04:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dhalen32: Not to mention that I wouldn't have to change any of my existing "stuff" to work with it either. I had my local BMW dealer install an accessory socket on my XB12Ss as soon as I got it home. He'd installed one on my M2 Cyclone when I had that one too.
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Spatten1
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 04:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm getting an open face helmet so I can start smoking and riding.

Dick Trickle style.
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Jackbequick
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 09:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here is a quick reference for three of the most commonly used connectors. The "BMW", "John Deere", or "Powerlet", the two pin "SAE" or "trailer", and the cigar lighter.

http://www.powerletproducts.com/documentation/glos sary.html

The BMW/Powerlet/John Deere is a standard connector from Hella in Germany and has been around for years. It is arguably the best choice of those three.

Another is the "Coax" DC plugs and sockets which can be used with some or various Gerbings, Heat-Troller, and Widder products, sometimes with adapter cables or connectors being needed.

The Coax DC connector is not well defined but appears to be a pretty "standard" connector. It consitsts of 5.5x2.5x12mm (O.D., I.D., length) plug and socket and can be gotten in surface mount outlet or on cables as seen here:

http://www.warmnsafe.com/images/DC%20Coax%20Plug%2 0Power%20Cable.pdf
http://www.warmnsafe.com/images/DC%20Coax%20Jack%2 0Power%20Cable.pdf

It seems the agonizing part is to decide which one or ones to use. You can buy some items that will use one or the other but sooner or later you are going to have to convert the plug on something to use it.

If you want to use any one of them for everything, you'll find yourself having to adapt the plugs on at least some things (GPS and XM receivers, PDAs, phones, etc.) to use it.

If I were only going to put one connector or type of connector on a bike I'd go with the BMW/Powerlet/Hella type or the Coax DC outlet.

The Coax DC outlet makes for a little more compact mounting so I might give that the nod over the Hella. Either way, then the converting and modifying of all the other stuff begins...

Jack
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Jaimec
Posted on Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 05:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The BMW type has, as you say, been around for decades so has the most available accessories fitted for it right out of the box. You can also easily get a cigarette lighter adapter plug for it for those pesky items that require a cigarette lighter type outlet (like cell phone chargers, for example).
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Bjacs
Posted on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 11:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Did I miss the answer? Do we know what type connector is on the bike?
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M1combat
Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 03:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LOL : )
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Ferrisbuellersdayoff
Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 11:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh goody a 12v cig socket, lets put splitters on and run multiple appliances while riding!
12v Blender: check!
GPS: check!
Sat radio: check!
heated coffee mug: check!
400w Inverter to run my non 12v shit: check!

I am just so disappointed in this stuff...
heated grips I might be able to understand... Nope. Can't! Florida weather won't let me. Heated grip to me are like....I dunno a hunting stand with satelite TV.
Sometimes I think we've gotten so self absorbed that...oh oh oh My starbucks is getting cold hang on guys!
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Ferrisbuellersdayoff
Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 11:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ok I'm back but seriously why do we need a power supply on this thing? what has happened to our great american sense of adventure? F the GPS, I was in Boy Scouts for too damned long to let this crap make me soft, give me a "Red in the shed" compass and a friggin map, if i didn't carge my cell phone F it, you know what forget the phone, a pocket knife, and my boot laces, and I could suvive for weeks at a time.
12v accessories my ass... ((grumble grumble grumble))
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Ferrisbuellersdayoff
Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 11:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh and btw not to sound childish but yall are all stupid heads!
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Metalstorm
Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 11:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm digging it.

For those of us who do ride all year round even when it's really, really cold out, heated grips and an accessory plug is just the ticket!

Up til last winter I would just bundle up & soldier through it.
But now that I know what heated grips and a heated vest feel like when it's 15-17 degrees out I'm never gonna be without them. Ever!
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 01:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have to agree with metalstorm on this one. I don't think I've spent any better money on motorcycling than on my heated jacket and gloves. Something about riding thru a snow squall in 10 degree weather, sweating, that brings a grin to my masked face!

I can see Ferris' point too - I'm sick of people complaining about "too much heat" and "too much vibration" from their air cooled twins. C'mon folks...you're sitting with an internal combustion engine between your legs, you're gonna know it's there. Buy a Buick if you can't handle it.

However, I don't think an accessory plug is reason for a major diss. I won't have a GPS or a cell charger with me...but if it's cold, you bet your ass my jacket will be plugged in and I'll be riding, while nearly every other bike north of South Carolina is parked for the winter!

And for the record? I never leave home without my Gerber. It's my American Express Tool and I use it for just about anything you can imagine..."Just in case".
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Mikef5000
Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a sense of adventure, I just like to say, ok, low on gas (or hungry, or tired), hit the power button, and there's my way back. With a map I have to stop and waist 5 minutes not riding.
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Bearly
Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 08:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I spent 33 years in Florida Ferris, You can't get lost in Florida! Especially if you live south of Gainesville. Just drive till you see water and turn left or right!
Plus, there are so many gas stations. Jees there's one on every corner.
2000 miles from home, while hearing Banjo music from the woods, low on fuel, I'm glad they made GPS for Bikes!
I know your not going to understand this, but Air, gets Cold. People in the upper 47 (and Alaska) actually ride in air that's cold enough to make the ice cubes in your freezer. They need, need their heated gear to survive the -20° wind chill. Yes I know it feels cold down there when it's humid and 39° for an hour or two in the morning a couple of times a month in February. But these "freezer temperatures" that I mentioned earlier, they go on all day for months.
Now I've never met anyone heating coffee on their bikes, but I hope they save a cup for me. It might end my bike riding for the day, but If I meet anyone with a 12v Blender...


Thanks Anonymous for the accessory plugs. They work great on my Uly.

(Message edited by Bearly on September 24, 2007)
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Ferrisbuellersdayoff
Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 04:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What did people do before the invention of a 12v cig socket on a motorcycle?
Well I know my dad and his `51 Panhead came from West-BY-God-Virginia where he spent about 30 some years of his life. Did he have GPS in 1960 or `70? Or electric gloves,jacket, pants, boots, or anything?
Well yes he had electric socks but he said they burned up from his exhaust making the batteries explode.
As for the banjo music in the woods, thats prolly my family.
And if it ain't I carry a S&W 629 Classic, loaded with flying ashtrays. It punched a 440lb. hog and made him do a 180 somersault.
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Doerman
Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 04:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The accessory plug is also a great plugin for the trickle charger. No need for a pigtail to the battery.
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Alchemy
Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Have you tried the trickle charger that way? I was wondering if there might be a diode in there somewhere to frustrate that method? Sure sounds easier.
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Doerman
Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 09:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I do not have accessory outlet on my Buells, but I do on my BMW. And I use it as the connector for my trickle charger.

It's probably a straight shot from the acc plug on the Buell to the battery too. No sense in having electronics and diodes and such in between.
BUT it is worth finding out first for sure.
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Metalstorm
Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 09:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The single greatest thing about accessory plugs is that those who don't like them don't have to use them.
And from the sound of things, it seems its hidden from view so you don't have to even look at it.

Free will : )

I intend to use them freely and willingly and often. : )

(Message edited by metalstorm on September 24, 2007)
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M1combat
Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll get a lot of use out of that plug...

I don't care for GPS's much but I do ride in the winter. I know I know... I live in Arizona but I live in the Northern AZ mountains. I rode to work 45 miles last year twice when it was 14 degrees out. Thank you for the acc. plug Buell. I'll be having my dealer throw in the heated grips when I buy.
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Bearly
Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 10:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Guess I'll have to go back to solid tires.
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Metalstorm
Posted on Saturday, December 15, 2007 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's a connector right under the fairing bracket that you can plug in electrical accessories without breaking into or modifying the wiring harness.

Where exactly?
I've looked good & hard to no avail. It doesn't say where it is in the owners manual either. It says only see your dealer.
Of course they had no idea either. (no reflection on them what-so-ever as they are great guys and pretty darn pro Buell)
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Zac4mac
Posted on Saturday, December 15, 2007 - 11:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rectangular grey thing;
Little over a half-inch square, by an inch- inch and a half.
Looking down at the fairing from rider's position, left side top of bottom triple tree.4-position plug, like a Squariel(Ariel square four).
I believe it has a male dummy plug. Pull that and plug in the grips.

I have the kit and was looking at the connector today on my 1125, but they wouldn't let me bring her home, so I can't check.

Z
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Socoken
Posted on Saturday, December 15, 2007 - 11:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

To me, the accessory plug is representative of how far Buell motorcycles have come. My M2 and earlier bikes of the sort had a sort of "kit bike" feel to them, but the 1125r seems like a complete bike. I love my M2 and always will, but even if all I ever plug into my 1125r is my cell phone charger, I really love that its there.
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Darkice19
Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 10:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Im thinking Radar Detector
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Metalstorm
Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 10:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the info,
I must be blind.
I looked for it but couldn't see it. The bike's owner looked and couldn't see it either.

So it's just a connector coming off the wiring harness above the bottom tree? If so it must be tucked up out of sight on my buddy's 1125R.

I'm waiting as patiently as I can for him to break it in so I can try it out.
If the smile on the owner's face isn't a clear enough indication of how fun this bike is, the giggles I keep hearing escaping his helmet make it more than clear : )
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