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Xb9
Posted on Friday, September 28, 2007 - 11:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rear brake??.....what rear brake.
You could remove the rear brake pedal for as much as I use it on the track.


besides, with that front brake what more would you ever need? (unless your trying to back it into a corner) : )
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Mbsween
Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 12:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

XB9,
I'm with you on the rear brake thing. I guess to settle the bike going into a corner maybe, but this thing is rock solid, who needs to settle it. The front brake felt like it would toss you over easy enough with two fingers, i can't see what the rear could do when the tire's in the air : )

I found the lack of grunt in the hairpin to be somewhat annoying, I could let the X1 get to 2500 rpm and it pulls fine from there. The 1125 I needed to have closer to 4k. Buts thats mainly cuz I'm slow. It also took me 3 sessions to find that white dot that lets you know when to turn in.

I have carpal tunnel bad in both wrists so I usually know a bike vibrates by how quickly I loose feeling in the hands. I didn't have any issues with the 1125. Again it was rare to get it past 8K, so who knows at higher rpms.

What a bike! I used to do the Buell test rides at Mid Ohio, thats what convinced me to get the X1. The staff was always "enthusiastic" (meaning the far side of sane) and professional. This event was the run the same way but over the top. Occasionally you can wring a bike on a Vintage days test ride, but not like this. This is the event that will me have me buying a second Buell.

(Message edited by mbsween on September 29, 2007)
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Brumbear
Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 01:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

now see mb I found at 280 lbs the tourque at low rpm,s in the hairpin and the whole track more than adequit second gear pulled me through and out of everthing on the track. But I will say again I will if I can without selling my SS buy one without any reservations this is a keeper bike buy and large. But I will let it speak for itself. I felt a difference rather than a fault if anyone else did let us know.
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 07:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The photos are now on line at www.dvkphoto.com


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Buell 1125R.

I was very impressed with the generosity of Buell at this event, the large turn out of the Buell faithful and Bad Webbers, and of course the bike itself. Four local Buell Dealers co-sponsored.

The dreaded scoops were not bad in person, as everyone has said, and invisible once underway. I do prefer the one piece fairing scoop design that one of the Bad Webbers has posted.

I felt the muffler was actually more of a problem aesthetically, and one that does not lend it self to a conventional "Drummer " type solution using an oval can, because the in-engine oil reservoir is very low to the ground. On the plus side, the stock muffler sounded pretty good for a legal muffler.

The brakes were awesome and the slipper clutcth worked very well. That and the wide powerband of the engine made this rocket ship surprisingly easy to ride, even whilst trying to go fast on an unfamiliar track.

The bikes were set up according to the riders weight, and everyone reported feeling right at home, and going well right from the first turn. The Pirelli Corsa III were a excellent selection of street rubber.

I felt the bike ran a bit hot, but I was told that there are three fixes planned for this that were not implemented on the test fleet.

Another small problem was extreme handlebar vibration at around 10,000 rpm. However this was simply solved by shifting earlier, as the powerband was very wide.

Do I plan to sign up?

I am afraid the answer is no.

The new bike handles much better than a stock XB, but so does Lil' Blackie, my Ohlins equipped, long wheelbase chain drive model.

Perhaps the most important lesson I learned was that the brothers who have maintained that track time and suspension set up are more important than brute horsepower are correct, and the the original XB model stands pretty tall in comparison with the new one, especially if one has done one's homework with tires, suspension and track time.

Sadly at my age, I don't feel that I am able to take advantage of the wonderful Rotax motor, so I think I will stand pat for the moment.

I think the bike will sell well to Buell owners who crave more power, but conquest sales might be another matter, for two reasons.

First, the competition for this segment is pretty strong, and secondly, with the exception of the few Buell friendly dealers that we know and love, when a non Buell owner visits a non Buell friendly Harley dealer, the meeting is all too often rather unsatisfactory for the visitor.



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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 08:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Did you guys ever put your bikes on the track?

If I'm going to play with Buell's toys all day I may just ride the Uly to the track.
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Alchemy
Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 09:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I took my Uly and had a great time. I finally confirmed that it is possible to drag the pegs on the Uly. I had a fresh M-3 on the back and it got a workout. I only rode the 1125R once but we got a little rain toward the end of the day.
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Xb9
Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 11:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wolf,
At VIR they let you demo in all but the first and last session, and they told us if it's wet they won't let the demos on the track (understandable!). So you might want to bring that 'bolt! See you at Mid-O!
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Davo! Are you going to be at Mid Ohio Thursday?
I need to save my tires for the 30 min. endurance race at Nelson on Saturday Oct.6th.
You should come up and run with me!
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Xb9
Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll see you @ Mid-O Thursday!
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Meandrlily
Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 12:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes yes yes you need to bring your bike along! You -should- be able to get in two sessions on the 1125R, but nothing is guaranteed. There's a good chance that you'll get more than 2 sessions but it all depends on the size of your riding group, the track conditions, how many have gone down, weather, etc.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do they have any other bikes to demo?

I owe the City X another go round.....
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Jlnance
Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 02:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

nope, only 1125rs
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 02:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

bummer
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Mikef5000
Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 03:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know, I really wanted to take a TT out. But I guess I'll be happy on the r.

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Mbsween
Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All unhappiness will be gone once you're on the 1125R. Then again, you'll have some time at high rpm with those long straights at Mid Ohio. You mid-west guys have all the fun!

I wished I'd signed up for both.
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Marko138
Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 10:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey guys. I was also at Pocono last week. Best time of my life. The 1125 was insane. I loved every minute of it. Which only last 4 laps. I demo'd in the 1:40 session where the guy crashed near the entrance to the NASCAR straight.

I was in the novice class on the old school GSXR. Yes, the pink bike.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 09:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wanted to demo the TT as well... until I demo'd the 1125.

I'm not buying another Buell until something like that motor shows up in a lightning chassis. When it does, I will be buying another Buell (don't tell my wife yet).

The 1125 was perfect except for it's sport orienter ergodynamics... which were great for sport oriented ergodynamics... but are not anything I would tolerate for a street bike.
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Ceejay
Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 09:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Reep-That bike felt very similar to my bolt. Which I find comfy now with helibars and peg drops, which it should be easy to do the same to an 1125...
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