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Buellnewbie
Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What are the recommended valve adjustment intervals?

I'm assuming local HD/Buell techs will be trained to do them????

Does Buell have any intention to start selling these bikes through other dealers besides HD?
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Pushrodpete
Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 01:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 on the valve-adjustment-interval question...
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Tx05xb12s
Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 02:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yep. I intend to do all my own maintenance just like I do on my XB, so I'd like to know what I'll be getting into with the new bike. Any word on the shop manual?
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 03:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

bump
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No_rice
Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 04:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i am wondering also
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Gtmg
Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 05:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

bump again. This is a big deal for service costs.
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Chessm
Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 05:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

we should take bets!

closest to the miles without going over wins!

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Hughlysses
Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 05:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

15,000 miles
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Sleez
Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 05:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

8,000 miles
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Aeholton
Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 05:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

6,000 miles
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Doerman
Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 05:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

6000 then 12000 and every 12K after that
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Mikef5000
Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 07:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good Question! Are you folks (posting before me) still guessing, or do you know for sure?

(Message edited by mikef5000 on July 19, 2007)
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Hughlysses
Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 08:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Will the real valve adjustment interval please stand up....
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Aeholton
Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 09:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good Question! Are you folks (posting before me) still guessing, or do you know for sure?


Guessing...I thought it was like the old how many marbles in the fishbowl contest.
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Buell920
Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 10:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would think with the finger follower F1 set-up it could be around 50k. It looks as if the FINGERS will slide over for quick adjustments.
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Jaimec
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 09:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The only other motorcycle I know with finger-follower valves (the BMW K1200S) does not have a regular valve adjustment interval. Instead, during the regular service the bike is plugged into the BMW diagnostic computer and that thing apparently is capable of reporting which valves have gone out of adjustment.

Austria and Germany speak the same language, right? Could something similar be in place for the Rotax engine in the 1125R?
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Spiderman
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 09:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i'm gonna go with

12,500 miles
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Jimidan
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 09:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It has to be better than my Ducati...6,000 miles, at which time I need to use a special tool to lock out cam shaft rotation, so that I can check the rockers to see if they are flaking chrome and then use a $550 tool to properly adjust the belt tension.
Hey, these are racing engines...
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Chadhargis
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

$550 tool? Where are you buying your 10lb fish scale at?? LOL! : )
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Anonymous
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 08:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Spidey nailed it. It's a 12,500 mile interval for valve adjustments. Good guess webslinger!
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Diablo1
Posted on Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 08:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Are the shims under buckets, over buckets, or no buckets? I assume you slide over or remove the finger follower to replace the shim.
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Spiderman
Posted on Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

sweet
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Anonymous
Posted on Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just slide the finger follower to the side and there's the shim. Super easy.
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Mikef5000
Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 05:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And it's as simple as pulling the airbox and seat and there's the top of the heads?

Or is there going to be that ONE STUPID VALVE COVER BOLT THAT'S TUCKED UP UNDER THE FRAME SO CLOSE YOU HAVE TO CUT OFF THE TIP ON AN ALLEN WRENCH TO WEDGE IT IN THERE AND TURN IT WITH A CRESCENT WRENCH JUST TO GET THE DARN COVER OFF THE TOP OF THE ENGINE!!!!!!

Oh. Sorry bout that. Apparently I had some bottled up rage from my latest rocker box gasket change on my Cyclone.
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Bob_thompson
Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 07:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mike, do not be sorry, we all understand having done our own but it should not be rage but satisfaction that you innovated, adapted and overcame a small maintenance problem and got the job done probably better than many dealers would have. I also love fabricating specialty tools but thats just me. Lets just wait and see what maintenance will be like on such an apparently great motorcycle. Valve adjustment looks like its a cinch. I remember trying to rejet carburated inline fours. What a PITA that was. Keeping my M2 when the new one comes in just because I love it with all its little quirks.

(Message edited by bob_thompson on July 23, 2007)
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Mikef5000
Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 07:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All in good fun. I love working on my Cyclone!
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Fullpower
Posted on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 - 10:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Let us please not confuse the valve clearance INSPECTION interval with the valve clearance ADJUSTMENT interval. One should make a habit of regular lash inspections, while one would NOT be expected to have to change valve shims very often at all. My reference points are from Ducati, KTM and the 13,000 rpm Honda CRF250R which is equipped with finger followers, all of which seem to be behaving themselves nicely, despite their complete lack of PUSHRODS, Hydraulic lifters, and gear drive cams.

(Message edited by Fullpower on July 24, 2007)
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Diablo1
Posted on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 - 10:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you have the valve covers off to inspect and measure the clearance, it would take you all of another 5 minutes to change out any shims required. Anonymous already posted 12,500 miles between clearance checks.
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Towjam
Posted on Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 12:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The only other motorcycle I know with finger-follower valves (the BMW K1200S) does not have a regular valve adjustment interval. Instead, during the regular service the bike is plugged into the BMW diagnostic computer and that thing apparently is capable of reporting which valves have gone out of adjustment

Not exactly. The onboard diags measure a)mileage since last check and b)how the engine has been run since last check. Based on that, the computer will "tell" the tech if the valves need to be inspected. At that point the tech will still need to do an inspection and if necessary, adjustment.
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