| Author | Message | ||
     Cityxslicker |
And when was the good ol U.S.A getting the new XR1200 ? I would think that would satisfy the sportster performance niche... I would put one of those in the garage. Esp if it was orange and black | ||
| Lightning_bug |
I don't post often, but on occasion feel compelled to chime in. I logged on to read about the new Buell and unfortunately find 5 year olds bickering over things I feel confident they know little to nothing about. The new bike is controversial and quite frankly, good for the brand. The V-rod brought a new demographic and technology chapter to Harley, but was criticized by the faithful HD herd despite its accomplishments. I am not quick to judge based on initial appearances or impressions until I am confident that I know what I am talking about. I may be off base, but there are too many "better than you" egos with diarrhea of the mouth spouting garbage that unfortunately makes the entire BadWeb smell. Before any of you "I'm an engineer" or "I have owned a billion motorcycles" or "I have ridden a zillion miles in just 1 year" crowd want to flame me...Please consider this, I don't know you, nor you me...do you really think I will care? Rather than get your blood pressure out of whack over a bike that you know so little about (have not ridden, seen, or even researched properly), give the new Buell a chance to prove itself...if it fails, then your tireless banter of "I'm an expert" is then at least tolorable...BUT, if it is successful (which I believe it will be) - PLEASE JUST SHUT UP or start your own site dedicated to crapping on all things that do not conform to your "world" and leave the BadWeb alone. | ||
| Court |
>>>And when was the good ol U.S.A getting the new XR1200 ? You may have missed my prior posts but I'd bet it NEVER sees the light of day. I'd certainly not be waiting on it. Court | ||
| Hogs |
Hey Perhaps, Just Perhaps I`m looking at these new cases/ Software etc ... am wondering... Now maybe we will see the 1300/1350 Jugs being an option on them in the Not so far away... Perhaps I/We did get something here in this new Buell... What do you guys think... I wd. hold off here abit and wait... Here comes perhaps the big bore we have been waiting for and ECM...???? | ||
| Hogs |
I`m talking about the New Xb12 here Not that 1125r just to clear that up.... I Wd. expect the XBRR cyls. wd. fit right on these cases, maybe without any case boring??? One can wish...Plus that new ECM Hmmmm Interesting... Reminds me when Buell came out with the Xb9 and then drop the xb12 out a few months later.. HeY what do you guys think.... Anyone else see this??? | ||
| Blake |
Looks to me like the deck height is unchanged. | ||
| 07xb12scg |
You may have missed my prior posts but I'd bet it NEVER sees the light of day. I hope you're wrong. HD would be very dumb not to bring it to the US. Everybody loved it and it's as cool as the Nightster which seems to be selling pretty well around here. They're the only two stock Sportsters I've ever liked. | ||
| 07xb12scg |
You may have missed my prior posts but I'd bet it NEVER sees the light of day. I'd certainly not be waiting on it. Court: According to MCN, you're wrong just a day after posting that statement. Harley-Davidson XR1200 gets go ahead for production (Message edited by 07XB12Scg on July 10, 2007) | ||
| Barker |
Correction 82ft lbs not 84ft lbs. Two less than an XB12. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
(Psst. A Buell ISN'T a Harley any more than a Buell is a Rotax.) HD = Rotax = Engine Supplier Besides the engine, what is the total number of shared components between a Buell and ANY HD model?  | ||
| Thespive |
Court means in the US. That article seems to still say "Euro" production to me. --Sean | ||
| Court |
I stand by my statement. | ||
| Spatten1 |
This bike is a huge opportunity for Buell. Working with Rotax ensures that the bike will have the best odds at hitting it's performance mark and being reliable. It is just a smart partnership in every respect. Buell can influence the design, but not go through the thousands of mistakes that Rotax and every other manufacturer made along the way to becoming a top-notch performance engine manufacturer. Eventually Buell may have the in-house expertise to do it all in the US. KTM and Polaris brought their engines in-house after many successful years using Rotax engines. However, both became large volume manufacturers using the outsourced powerplants. It's just good business to use Rotax to have the best odds of a home run the first time out with a high performance bike. I'm very stoked about it and disagree that outsourcing is a negative thing for a manufacturer as small as Buell currently is. | ||
| Madduck |
It wouldn't suprise me at all that both Court and MCN are right on this one. the XR1200 may not ever be listed as a "production" bike but the bike you see could easily be made at the factory as an accesory package available to dealers who want them. Bet it would outsell Buells in Japan for sure. I for one will be waiting for Spring 08 before I buy my next new motorcycle. Down to XR1200, 1125R or the tricolor Honda VFR. | ||
| Ryker77 |
The VFR can be fitted with hard bags. And I like the exhaust. Slight bit heavy compared to the 1125r. I too like the VFR. | ||
| Diablobrian |
My third favorite bike ever (behind #1 my XB, #2 gsxr 750) is the 84 VF1000f interceptor I once owned. Those v4s are great compromises between il4 revs and v2 torque. They just don't have as much personality as our Buells! | ||
| Fpresky |
I was in a tech class with Erik Friday at homecoming and a question was asked about custom order Buells and his answer was not in the plans at this point of time.so that " accesory package" is not possible. | ||
| Elff |
I think its a good idea overall 2 things I dont like 1. The headlights 2. Those side scoops I like the insect look of the current 9 and 12r | ||
| Dongalonga |
The scoops are hideous and made my final decision for me. I will be purchasing an '08 12R after really giving the looks of the 1125R time to sink in. I really believe the 12R is the best looking sportbike around. Also I was considering the Daytona 675 before comparing insurance and maintenance costs. The 12R to me is the ultimate street bike. It is cheap to own/operate, handles wonderfully, and is still fast enough to get killed on!! (Message edited by dongalonga on July 11, 2007) | ||
| Isham |
Guys don't forget That this version of the 1125R is the streetable version. I'm sure they'll be a full fairin race version or someone will have a body out for it, when that happens the haters will be drooling over it. I honestly would like to see a xbr type chin fairing on the street model... | ||
| Macbuell |
The 1125r would be so much more attractive, IMO, with a full fairing covering up those radiator cowls and the ugly muffler. Maybe they will introduce a version with closer to 1200 ccs, a chain and a full fairing as the production model for a WSB race bike in 2008. Sort of like how Ducati introduced a limited production model for their WBS platform. Just to add on to that thought, Buell did a great job of producing a great bike with a $12K price job. If they build a limited production model/platform for racing they can put ohlins suspension bits on it and a bunch of carbon fiber to really drop the weight and have a true racing platform that a privateer could use. I imagine the price would jump to close to $20K but it would still be really cool to see. I never could afford it but it would still be very cool to see. (Message edited by MACBuell on July 11, 2007) | ||
| Hogs |
Well Since I started this post I thought I will add abit.... So this thing makes around 125 rwhp at the wheel...and 82 lbs of torque ( not at the rear wheel ) I think torque...at what 8000 rpms or so... Now the xb12 makes around with a few small mods to date say what 95 to 100 rwhp and what say 80lbs of torque ( Real Rear wheel torque )with a few mods and alot lower in the power band correct???? Now since the NEW 08 xb12 R`s have the better bottom end and I would expect can handle alot more Torque and Horsepower.. So... Lets say we get a set of them XBRR Cylinders or for that matter a set of the aftermarket 1450 jugs and pistons...Hmmmmmmmm Now I wd. think we got what say around 110 or 115 Realistic rwhp and what say 95 or 100 lbs of torque????? ( of course with a few more small mods ) LoL ... I`ll take the New XB12R anyday over this 1125r HAve a nice day...1125r may be better for the TRACk high reving and all but the FUN factor of alot more Torque and at alot lower in the power band???? Shorter wheel base etc...  Comments please..??? (Message edited by hogs on July 11, 2007) | ||
| Dongalonga |
Hell I dont need anymore power than a race ecm, American Sport Bike open airbox, and can are going to add. | ||
| Hogs |
For those that may have some technical background on engines may apply???To my above post here ...One post up.... | ||
| Chessm |
yay! lets compare stock bikes with highly modded ones! so... hows that orange pie tasting by the way? | ||
| Jaimec |
When I hit the Lotto I'm getting one of these puppies: http://tinyurl.com/92z8w And I'll kick ALL of your donkeys! If you do manage to get too close, I'll melt your front wheels with my exhaust, too! | ||
| Elff |
That's just people's preferences Here is something that I see as a huge bonus for this. Alot of people, especially the uninformed/unknowledgeable onee, buy bikes based on the spec sheet, even tho there is no way in he11 they can ride those specs to their fullest. This has always been an issue for sales for Buell, even tho we enthusiasts know full well, the non hp benefits of a buell So now buell has a bike that on paper looks as good as the japanese bikes has the same price as the japanese bikes But............ try to stay with me here Still has all the great benefits of being a buell IE: low COG, mass centrilization, ZTL braking, blah blah blah and, they are still selling the bikes we all currently ride IMO this is going to be a huge boon for Buell, increase their sales, increase their income and that in the end ends up coming back to us, the customers and riders. I think this bike is a good example of that. Lots of current Buell owners have been asking for more HP. Buell responded and gave us that option, or the option to buy the current style. The 1125R is just one more reason to love Erik's desire to make everything better. What is not to like???? | ||
| Chessm |
What is not to like???? the thing not to like is the fact that buell will not be making the air cooled bikes starting today! what? thats not true? ya we know that but the way some people complain about the 1125r, youd swear buell isnt making the xb's anymore. | ||
| Hogs |
Chessm, I guess you just don`t get it... I`m not comparing apples to apples here,Rather apples to oranges...l the Xb is What " Buell " engines has been for a LONG time... This 1125r is no more like the past Buell Engines than apples are to oranges... I`m just saying IF ya want the Buell Standard ENGINE then just mod. the Sportster eng. and Have LOADS more Torque than this 1125r.. And seems to me thats what everyone LOVES about the " Buell " the FUN FACTOR TORQUE .. YEah have that 1125R raced Mr. Eric Buell.... But Keep the Roots of Your Buell where it has been Torque.... I wd. have to say the XB with it Huge amount of Torque at Low RPMS.. is what so many have enjoyed for the past 15 years or more..............So in having said this...Never get rid of the Sportster based engine....,and it looks like he has plans to do stuff with this new bottom end cases for the xb`s from the XBRR... | ||
| Chessm |
hogs, please tell me which online translator to run your post through. ya, i know most of us here love the xb. personally, i still prefer the a stock XB to the new 1125r. BUT im am happy as hell to have it on board. i dont care if its torque is less than a modded xb. its a different tool for a different application. i know we all love our ratcheting socket wrench, but every once in a while its good to know that theres an impact socket wrench available. |
