| Author | Message | ||
     Starter |
Kind of strange the news hasn't gotten here yet???? | ||
| Reepicheep |
It did, the details have trickled out over a few threads during last few weeks. Great news! Todays announcement had a couple of encouraging possibly new points though: First, the team is saying they know that it takes a lot of time and development at tracks to be competitive, and they aren't expecting podiums. We all knew this already, but it's good to hear everyone announce it together... a good sign that there won't be jilted primadonna antics at the end of the season because EBR didn't take first. Secondly, the team is saying that their goal is to work hard, learn a ton, and have a lot of fun. Which, I think, is the perfect agenda for next season. That is also very encouraging to hear that publicly stated and declared. | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
????lots of news about it here for a while, what are you talking about Starter? | ||
| Hughlysses |
Nothing posted about it in the news forum. It isn't obvious where to post or look for things on Badweb sometimes. | ||
| Sir_wadsalot |
http://www.sportrider.com/news/146_13012_erik_buel l_talks_about_world_superbike_plans/ | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
Hugh - its in about every other subforum, not like its not been posted....MULTIPLE times | ||
| Hughlysses |
^ Yea, I know. It's just understandable how somebody might read the story on another site, and think "wow, that's big NEWS for EBR", come to the "EBR & Buell in the News" forum, see nothing, and wonder why nobody posted it here. | ||
| Sir_wadsalot |
I propose a rules change in the name of Phorumology! If we're gonna have an "EBR" Phorum, and an "EBR & Buell in the News" Phorum, then they should be handled thusly- EBR- All things, discussions, threads & farkles related to EBR are to be brought up here. Links may be provided as support/subtext relevant to the discussion. EBR/Buell News- This should be limited to posting and discussion of actual media pieces and news stories. For example, this thread would go in EBR, as it's asking a question, or making the statement that EBR's going to WSBK. A thread about the Sport Rider article that I just posted would go in Buell/EBR news. Along with all the obscure business news articles about Buell, EBR and Hero that you guys keep digging up. Which is genius, by the way. Erik Buell interviews as well. That would keep our own interpersonal discussions seperate from news articles, and would make things a bit easier to find. It's also simple enforcment for the Mods here. If we're gonna have two EBR threads anyhow... otherwise it may make sense to just merge the two threads, but as there's gonna be more EBR stuff in the future, I think it makes sense to have two Phorums for it. I would propose this directly to the Mods here, but I don't know who any of you are :-) | ||
| Hughlysses |
I concur with your suggestion, but I suspect trying to organize posts on Badweb is much like trying to herd cats...  | ||
| Court |
Love seeing this . . . Current 2014 World Superbike entry list Tom Sykes GBR Kawasaki Racing ZX-10R Loris Baz FRA Kawasaki Racing ZX-10R Sylvain Guintoli FRA Aprilia Racing RSV4 Marco Melandri ITA Aprilia Racing RSV4 Leon Haslam GBR Pata Honda CBR1000RR Jonathan Rea GBR Pata Honda CBR1000RR Eugene Laverty IRL Voltcom Crescent Suzuki GSX-R1000 Claudio Corti ITA MV Agusta Reparto Corse F4RR Chaz Davies GBR Ducati SBK 1199R Davide Giugliano ITA Ducati SBK 1199R Yates USA Team Hero EBR 1190RX Geoff May USA Team Hero EBR 1190RX Michel Fabrizio ITA Grillini Kawasaki ZX-10R (E) Sheridan Morais RSA Grillini Kawasaki ZX-10R (E) Jeremy Guarnoni FRA MRS Kawasaki ZX-10R (E) Rumoured Alex Lowes GBR Voltcom Crescent Suzuki GSX-R1000 Niccolo Canepa ITA Althea Ducati 1199R Fabien Foret FRA MAHI Kawasaki ZX-10R (E) David Salom ESP Kawasaki Racing ZX-10R (E) Sylvain Barrier FRA BMW Italia S1000RR (E) Christian Iddon GBR Pedercini Kawasaki ZX-10R (E) Luca Scassa ITA Pedercini Kawasaki ZX-10R (E) Frequent flyer miles . . here we come! :-) | ||
| Classax |
Only thing better would have been to see them listed in front\above Ducati. | ||
| Blake |
Sir Wadstoomuch, >>> EBR/Buell News- This should be limited to posting and discussion of actual media pieces and news stories. A'men my BadWeB brudder! That was/is exactly the intent of the EBR in the News topic. Shucks, just read what is stated atop the parent page...
Sure would appreciate any help reminding folks of the above. | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
"Only thing better would have been to see them listed in front\above Ducati." why? the list order means nothing heck, why not just want them at the top of the list then? | ||
| Classax |
"Only thing better would have been to see them listed in front\above Ducati." why? Just a little good natured taunting. No harm no foul. | ||
| Sir_wadsalot |
Blake are you a Mod? I've only been in this forum for a year now, I'm more than happy to tell people to repost in the correct forum, but some places the Mods don't like it when you help out, wasn't sure about here. Can Mods move threads within the forums here? Just curious. ...yeah I constantly rib the Ducati guys in Sportbikez.net. IMO the Panigale SV is a direct result of the RS. Competition breeds innovation! It also gets the outsiders interested when they see how much the vaunted Duc has lifted from Buell in one way or the other, and just comparisons of how the two companies do things in general. IE fuel in frame vs airbox in frame, the underslung exhausts, that sort of thing. The panigale's under engine exhaust is a work of art, they totally outdid us on that, at least as far as looks go. It helps to give them a carrot with the stick. | ||
| Reepicheep |
We forget the new people don't know all the tribal information, sorry about that. Blake owns the board. He started it way back in what, 97 or 98? He has paid for all the hosting (a fortune over time, hosting wasn't always cheap like it is now, and even now good hosting is still not as cheap as disposable hosting). Board sponsors help offset these expenses, and we appreciate them and patronize them whenever possible. But I'm guessing (no inside info) that a big chunk of the costs for this community came straight out of Blake's pocket. | ||
| Court |
That's an accurate statement. It also speaks volumes that Badweb has endured the test of time while a host of other have come and gone over the years. At some point, there was a thread detailing the genesis of Badweb when it grew out of a sidebar group e-mail discussion from the old motorcycle.com days. Few people know that Buell was so far ahead of the curve with the internet. Buell was the FIRST manufacturer of any wheeled vehicle, in the world to have a website. Years ahead of GM, Porsche, Trek and so many others. In the early days, when companies with websites numbered literally in the hundreds rather than millions, it created some funny stories. Someday, and it may be great fodder for another book, I'm going to share the entire chronology of when I was hired and on my first day at Buell, sent to a secret off-site location to meet with some amazing folks from a group formed of some really smart folks from M.I.T. What we did over the next couple months, including when I shared the stage with Bill Gates at the Cow Palace in San Francisco, was amazing. Could be a fun story. Blake has been and become an icon in the world of Buell and Badweb attests to his vision. Like it or hate it . . . Badweb is, in many ways, the center of the Buell universe. Court P.S. - The moderators here do a spectacular job and it's not easy. The names change from time to time to balance the work load but Blake has always done a great job of balancing the composition and making certain a wide range of technical expertise and viewpoints are well represented. It's a LOT of work and agree or disagree I always respect and comply with the "for the good of the group" decisions of the moderators. They move and organize as best they can but they can't be depended on to catch everything. | ||
| Firstbuell |
Court sez, ".....Badweb is, in many ways, the center of the Buell universe....." pretty much sums it up! | ||
| Buelliedan |
I posted that it was going to happen over a year ago: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/158 664/701041.html?1382729114 of course knowing the team manager helps!  | ||
| Xb1125r |
i knew this would eventually happen but hoped that EBR team would have done better in AMA before going to SBK | ||
| Bob_thompson |
WSB puts EBR, Erik, Hero and all of their sponsors on the world stage in motorcycle racing and that means big money and big exposure for all their products. Its business and has given Erik his dream come true, I do believe. And I personally love riding what I root for with the most profound company I have seen in a long time. | ||
| Court |
>>>>but hoped that EBR team would have done better in AMA before going to SKB. Think of the poor teams like BMW and KTM who can only dream of doing with Geoff and EBR did in the AMA. | ||
| Bads1 |
What did EBR do that KTM didn't?? They both pretty much the same as far as finishing. BMW never was really there for factory support to Larry and is why Larry moved on. | ||
| Blake |
Podiums 5th overall in the championship Finished in top 3 manufacturers | ||
| Xb1125r |
what I was referring ot was that with Danny EBR was getting better results, I was hoping Yates could have been able to have similar results. Lets just hope and wish them best of success at SBK | ||
| Bads1 |
Finished in top 3 manufacturers Blake I follow 4 series and when you say this.... Wow we have a lot to choose from. Our series is down right horrible. Not to many factory supported bikes. | ||
| Court |
This is going to be a great year of racing for EBR. The composition of the team and the choice of riders makes a great deal of sense. Different manufacturers race for different reasons. I think, and I am strictly guessing here, that EBR will have a different criterion of "success", getting what they, as a company, want out it the program, that other manufacturers might. If . . .and again . . I am strictly guessing . . I were making the decision I'd be more interested in harvesting valuable development data (so I'd want someone with Geoff's developmental experience) and placing my product in a position visible to a greater audience. Be mindful that in most the world folks have no clue, even motorcyclists, what an "EBR" is. EBR has perhaps the most ambitious growth plans of any manufacturer. Erik's 63 years old so rule out a "build it up over the next 10 years" model. The folks at HERO have both the resources and the desire to overtake the current world leaders. To that end, I'd far prefer the valuable data Geoff can bring me with his consistent performance and concise feedback. Geoff, in the past, has pretty well proven that if he's in a race he'll finish in the Top 10. He's consistent as a San Diego sunrise and able to provide extremely actionable development feedback. Winning is for egos (and that's fine) but data is for growth. I'd augment Geoff with someone who complements his style by bringing a completely different background, riding style and element to the team. . . .Aaron would work perfectly. A podium finish would be the cat's meow . . but I'd be perfectly happy with my investment if I was gaining the market exposure WSBK offers while at the same time getting the development data I needed to present a product on dealers floors that represented the pinnacle of existing technology. I suspect the folks who have put up the millions of dollars have given careful thought to what they want out of this, how to staff it, manage it and reap the benefits. I'm really looking forward to this season (maybe not the airfares . . .hahahaha) . . . see you at the races. Court | ||
| Bads1 |
The folks at HERO have both the resources and the desire to overtake the current world leaders. Can you elaborate on that??? | ||
| Court |
Sure. . . again . . JUST MY OPINION Honda and HERO has a less than cordial dealing. I don't think HERO is "mad" but I do think, after years of selling only in India, that you will start seeing HERO products sold in a new network worldwide, including the United States. HERO, in terms of resources, could buy Harley-Davidson, Ducati, KTM and a host of other companies with less than one weeks worth of profits. Money is what keeps most folks talking about racing rather than racing. It's not fair to say that "money is no object", but is is accurate to say that if HERO decides to take on a project that costs $1,000,000,000 they have the cash, in reserve, to write the check. | ||
| Bads1 |
Honda is car mower cycles and the list goes on. Suzuki and Kawi are Heavy Industries. I doubt they compare. Ducati is owned by Audi. Last I looked Ducati may be very very well funded now. |
