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Race_pirate
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well the secret is out of the bag....

What do you think???

$30K and your racing AMA FX

Im glad its a short stroke, I have seen a similar package built by Rich C. & piloted by Dave Estok and it look interesting watching Dave fight to keep the front wheel on the ground the WHOLE straightaway at Loudon.

A new day has dawned....
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99buellx1
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 12:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Seriously. another thread? geez!
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Race_pirate
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I figured a thread with the actual bikes name would maybe make easier to track....

@120 rw hp
@80 rw tq

Should be fun to see Daytona this year....
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99buellx1
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So data in three threads is easier than one?


I beg to differ.
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 12:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bill,
I don't know enough about FX to know whether or not the bike will be competitive.
What do you think?
Even with a competitive bike, I don't see any Buell pilots in the Zemke or Duhamel league.
Can't wait to see it in action, that's for sure.
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Shred
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 02:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why do some people have to be such an Azz' about every little thing on the board or threads. I usually ignore all the stupid whining. Some people need to get a life..... I will stop now

I had to edit this. Have a nice day

(Message edited by shred on January 23, 2006)
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Sgthigg
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 02:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"I think we should start a thread on the who thinks they are the biggest know it all. What a list that would be..."

It would a big one. I already knew that. geez, You didnt?
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99buellx1
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 02:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Whatever dude, I'm just sayin what everyone is thinking.

it's much easier for everyone if you keep the data and conversation in one place.
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Shred
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 02:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sgthigg, I'm glad you thought that was funny. I tried to edit fast so I wouldn't hurt to many peoples feelings. The Bad Web is one of the coolest motorcycle webs and a lot of cool people make it so Ride safe
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M1combat
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 02:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was thinking it too... Just for the record.

The other thread has hundreds of posts... Some by anony. It's inherently more valuable than this one : ).
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99buellx1
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This one's getting more value by the second.
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Honu
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 03:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Shred,
I am with you!!! But the board is lit up like Its Christmas!!
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Stealthxb
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 03:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

but this one has the most relevant title!
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Olinxb12r
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 03:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Those numbers sound pretty good, but what about 6th gear? The redline top speed is still only listed at 155. That won't do anything against the I4s on the big tracks. It will still be underpowered at the track against the 1K i4s too. It will be interesting to see if the handling of the Buell can overcome the power advantages of the I4s. I'm glad they came out with something like this, and it seems like they were swinging for the fences on almost everything on the bike. Should make for some nice aftermarket trickle down to our street bikes!
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Mutation_racer
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 04:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

all it takes is a sprocket change and the bike goes faster . ITS NOT THAT HARD TO FIGURE OUT, WAKE UP PEOPLE. THe bike will be fast enough!
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Cataract2
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 05:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Olin, I don't think they'll be racing this in the Superbike. FX and others sure. To race this in the Superbike you would have to have a reeeeeeeeeealy big pair.
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Multi_bueller
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 05:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Go get em' killer. If you love i4's so much, why don't you buy one.
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Shred
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Who needs to wake up? What people? It was only a short comment about the redline,top speed,etc.etc. Its o.k Mutation_Racer....Its not just the bike, ITS THE RIDER and what he can do with it.

Mutation_Racer, What series and class do you race?

(Message edited by shred on January 23, 2006)
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Olinxb12r
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 06:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Easy guys. That wasn't intended to be a flame on the new bike. I'm just making observations about the competition that this bike could be up against if they want to make a big splash in the upper classes of motorcycle racing.
If I wanted an I4 I would still be on a Yamaha. I think that the XB is awesome for a hooligan street bike, but I would love to see one racing the big boys of the Superbike class. If that is not what this bike is intended for my comments were out of context.
I would however think that for the 30K sticker price this would be a bike that Buell is trying to set a benchmark with. There is a similar setup on the Yamaha R1 LE that runs about 18K. http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/products/modelspecs/499/0/specs.aspx
Anyway, I look forward to watching this bike and the race track and I hope to see one in person at some point.
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Mutation_racer
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 06:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

your right , the rider is everything , and i know i'll ride the crap out of it
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Jscott
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 06:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is not intended to be raced in the AMA Suberbike class. Only in the AMA Formula Xtreme class.
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Kootenay
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 06:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I saw the Road Race World article linked elsewhere (the other thread?), but here's another online article about the XBRR.
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Anonymous
Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 12:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>Even with a competitive bike, I don't see any Buell pilots in the Zemke or Duhamel league.<<

Zemke and Duhamel will steal a very worried glance over at McWilliams when they're sitting on the grid.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 12:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mike Hale is no slouch either.
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Josh_
Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 12:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>There is a similar setup on the Yamaha R1 LE that runs about 18K.

The R1-LE is an R1 with an Ohlins suspension, different wheels and clutch, 3HP and 2lbs more for a $6400+ premium (my local dealer wants $20k +setup+doc for theirs).

Not a race-only bike with 50% more power than its closest street brethren and trick stuff like carbon fairing and magnesium wheels.

The R1LE carries 21lbs more of factory-claimed weight, but 33 more HP (but gives up an unknown amount of torque)
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Odinbueller
Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 02:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

6 speed means thinner gears, and this was deliberately called "Gorilla 5 speed". No need for a 6th gear with the torque curve eluded to by Erik and the staff on hand here at the dealer show.

Top speed through the corners (and out of) is where this beautiful machine will excel, and perhaps dominate?

Oh man I can NOT wait for Daytona! : )

Hey Mutant! We'll be in the house in time for the Daytona 200. No big screen but decent surround sound for the race : ) Let Raz know it IS on for my place for this event!
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 05:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"McWilliams" as in Jeremy McWilliams, as in MotoGP race winner, Jeremy McWilliams. : ]
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Trojan
Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 05:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Buell Motorcycle Company has also announced an expanded racing support program for 2006, with more than $700,000 posted in cash contingencies for Buell racers competing in a variety of national and regional race series events and classes aboard XB models and the XBRR production racing motorcycle.


Why is this just in the US? There are plenty of us worldwide racing Buells too, and we get no support from national distributors or dealers!!
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Two_buells
Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 07:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Buell introduces XBRR production racing motorcycle
Race-use-only bike brings Buell full circle



EAST TROY, Wis. (January 23, 2006) – Erik Buell and company come full circle with the introduction of the 2007 Buell XBRR, a limited-edition production racing motorcycle designed exclusively for closed course competition. A spiritual successor to Buell’s first motorcycle, the 1983 RW750, the XBRR is poised to change the face of privateer racing with a professional-level, race-ready, production-based platform featuring top-shelf racing technology and typical Buell innovation.

“The XBRR combines the current culmination of Buell’s leading edge chassis technology and Harley-Davidson’s air-cooled V-Twin powertrain development in a platform designed by and developed for dedicated racers,” said Erik Buell, Chairman and Chief Technical Officer, Buell Motorcycle Company.

For Erik Buell, the XBRR marks a return to his racing roots. As a successful privateer road racer early in his career, Buell eventually built his own race bikes for the AMA's then-premier Formula 1 class. The RW750 was a hand-built race bike, and it became the first official Buell motorcycle. Two were produced before the AMA discontinued the class after 1985. Buell then translated his race-bred design principles into a line of successful street bikes leading up to the current XB platform.

The Buell XBRR features a modified XB Thunderstorm 1339cc (103.6mm bore x 79.4mm stroke) air/oil-cooled V-Twin motor rated at 150-hp (measured at the crankshaft). The engine is fed by a dual-downdraft 62mm throttle-body electronic fuel injection system and a ram-air intake system integrated with a new wind-tunnel developed carbon fiber fairing.

The XBRR is the first production Buell since the 1988-89 RR1200 to feature a full fairing. Its lightweight carbon design integrates ducts for cooling of the engine and oil cooler. The fairing was extensively wind tunnel tested to improve aerodynamics and reduce drag.

The XBRR chassis is the revolutionary XB design with fuel-in-the-frame and oil-in-the-swingarm, modified with a billet axle adjustment system and chain-drive to allow gearing changes for different race tracks. Suspension travel is managed by fully adjustable Ohlins units, with 43mm front forks and a remote-reservoir rear shock.

A new ZTL2 (Zero Torsional Load) eight-piston front caliper grabs a standard XB front rotor providing outstanding braking performance, but with less weight than conventional designs. New XBRR six-spoke magnesium wheels weigh 33 percent less than standard XB wheels.

Instruments include tachometer, indicator lamps for shift, power on and low oil pressure. The XBRR features a unique Buell Racing paint scheme.

Buell XBRR features:

1339cc (81.7 cid) Thunderstorm Powertrain:
4.080 inch (103.6 mm) bore and 3.125 inch (79.4mm) stroke
12.5:1 compression ratio
Dual 62 mm down-draft fuel-injection throttle bodies
WAVE-analyzed header and mass-centralized muffler
150+ peak engine horsepower at 8000 rpm (per SAE J607)
100 ft. lbs. peak engine torque at 6500 rpm (per SAE J607)
Black 6-Spoke Cast Magnesium Racing wheels:
Front: 3.5 inch (88.9mm) x 17 inch (431.8mm) wheel with 120/70R-17 tire
Rear: 5.5 inch (139.7mm) x 17 inch (431.8mm) wheel with 190/55R-17 tire
Buell ZTL2reversed rotor front brake with eight-piston Nissin caliper
Ram Air system integrated with full racing fairing
Carbon fiber bodywork
43mm Ohlins adjustable front suspension with inverted forks
Ohlins fully-adjustable rear suspension with coil-over monoshock with remote reservoir
55-degree lean angle (hard contact)
30.5-inch (775 mm) seat height
21-degree rake and 3.4-inch (86 mm) trail
Cast-aluminum swingarm with billet axle adjustment system
Center position wheelbase 52.8 inches (1341 mm)
Range wheelbase 51.8 – 53.8 inches (1315 mm – 1367 mm)
Buell Racing paint scheme
To accommodate eligibility in a wide variety of racing classes, an engine modification kit will be available to help conform the XBRR to a wide range of class regulations.
Buell will produce 50 XBRR motorcycles with a short initial run in late February and the balance made in April. U.S. MSRP is $30,995.

It is illegal for anyone to ride this motorcycle on public roads. The Buell XBRR motorcycle does not meet NHTSA or EPA regulations for on road use. This motorcycle may only be used on closed courses. We reserve the right to discontinue models or change specifications at any time without incurring obligations. Vehicle and accessory specifications may vary from country to country depending on local laws. Some features and accessories are not available in certain countries. Be aware that many countries prohibit the importation, registration and/or use of vehicles and accessories not built to their countries specifications. Check with your local dealer for details.

Buell Motorcycle Company, a subsidiary of Harley-Davidson, Inc., produces sport motorcycles, motorcycle parts, accessories and apparel. To learn more about Buell motorcycles, visit your local Buell dealer today and experience the pure streetfighter attitude, style and performance only found on board a Buell. Pull into www.buell.com for the Buell dealer nearest you.
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Shred
Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 08:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

WOW...
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