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Usroute66
Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 01:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ferris,

As long as we don't get an early snow, hahaha, I'll be there! Had a great time last year.

Scott
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Firemanjim
Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 03:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ferris,RE the last stop on our All CAL ride.There was supposed to be lotsa doings at that Eureka HD/Buell store and we ended up with squat.Very poor showing.I know Leslie was pissed.
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Rex
Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 08:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

leslie upset about the dealership, or lack of attendance from the buell community? long 1800 miles, that not everyone, made to the end...REX
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Firemanjim
Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 09:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dealership----plenty of riders still.

edited by firemanjim on May 19, 2004
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 07:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Re: XB accident rate. I suspect, ( in the absence of any real data )
A: The community is so small, we hear of crashes fast.
B: One of the common comments on Buells's is they are so easy to ride fast. "Thought I was doing 60, looked down & was doing 95" ( a fast street rider on my M2 ) The XB series are even more "civilized" than the "tuber's", and allow more spirited riding nearer the traction limits of today's fine tires.
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Smadd
Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 03:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's a review of the XB12 from Motorbikes Today. I don't think I've seen a link posted on this yet. I'm not really familiar with this "magazine". The XB receives a rather favorable review. Check it out.

http://www.motorbikestoday.com/reviews/Articles/buell_xb12r_firebolt.htm

Steve
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 03:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The superior suspension of the XB's definitely inspires confidence. However, I'd say that exceeding the tires' traction limits accounts for less than 5% of all motorcycle accidents on public roads. Most riders who have crashed, me included, panicked and ran off the road. Then there is locking up the rear brake, encountering unforeseen road debris, critters, blind/stupid cagers, and just plain being stupid (drunk, stunting, showing off). If the foot-peg feelers are not well ground, and there is virgin rubber around the edges of the rear tire, limit of traction on clean dry pavement of sporting tires has not been approached.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My point was that after my first 12mph lowside (a combination of an invisible pothole at full lean and and inability of the tires to recover when the road came back)... I just pounded the clutch lever back, bent the shifter out, and finished my ride.

A ruined pair of dockers, about a total of 4 sq inches of road rash, a chewed up glove and joe rocket jacket, and I got on with my life. My helmet never even touched the pavement.

Had it been a 25 mph lowside... as it probably would have been if I was on a 9s on that same corner and found that same hazzard... it could have been... well... pretty bad.
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Bluzm2
Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court,
Have my email been getting through to your inbox?
I think I'm being blocked by some ISP's.

Brad
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 08:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just saw a book on riding safely, ( forgot to write down title, now I have to go back to book store. It had a quote I'm always miss-remembering.

"I had to lay it down" is moron speak for "I can't control my bike, stomped on the rear brake in a panic & crashed on purpose"

So true.
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Fullpower
Posted on Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 11:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i hAD a 1978 honda XL125, bought it to teach wife to ride, also brother in law, sister in law, and my sons first cycle ride when he was 8. it was way too big for him, but i taught him to start out leaning against the porch, and "land" or stop against a big boulder in the yard. he figured it out pretty quick. ANyway one of the fun things you can do with such a nice little beater bike is TRY TO "lay it down". motorcycles do not want to "LAY DOWN" while the wheels are rotating. they seem to be very stable, and wish to remain uprite in asurprisinly powerful way, at least while maintaining speed. if you actually try stuffing them down, they tend to turn real sharp. this, i discovered is a real nice way to get the bike to turn, just mash it down into a curve push hard on the inside grip, and stay off the rear brake.
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Boss
Posted on Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

WANTED: buell drivetrain for chopper project....email me at theboss@budwesier.com if you know of any...will consider complete bikes (wrecks), engine must be running with title.
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Sandblast
Posted on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 03:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi everyone, there is a question in the KV about the Charcoal can on a California bike, please help- thanks-
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Loki
Posted on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 03:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

of all the luck.....

Now I got to replace my torn isolators!

This really sucks.
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Iamike
Posted on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Loki-
I did it myself last Spring and it wasn't too bad. Make sure you use the info. about it here and on ATB's site. It helps to have a helper and a couple of straps to hold the bike to the jacks.
It took me about 1 hour to remove the swingarm and 2 to get it back (trial & error).
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Loki
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 12:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Kinda been waiting for the day I would need to attempt this little project.

This may shoot my plans for the long weekend to heck though. Hopefully the dealer has a set in stock....then again I know the local shop.
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Wyckedflesh
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 04:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aesquire: "I had to lay it down..."

I was a passenger on my stepfather's bike oh so many childhood years ago when he did have to "lay it down" on purpose. Laying the bike down kept us from slamming into the flatbed trailer of a Semi that pulled out in front of him unexpectedly by running a stop sign "because he didn't see us coming". It was either go under the trailer or slam into the tractor.
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Kaudette
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 08:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sometimes in the dirt you certainly "lay the bike down" to avoid bigger problems. On the street however, with all the deadly obstacles out there it simply is not an option (except in the nearly unique cases Wycked mentions above).

Every accident I have seen (not a paramedic but have been riding for a bunch of years) is either due to rider judgement or "3rd party" vehicules. I've never seen a bike kill a rider. Btw - before some go nutty on me, I include worn tires, riding "too fast" for the conditions, and basic maintenance in rider judgement.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 10:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wyckedflesh,
That's not a "I had to lay it down".

That's a shining example of swift decision making, stuffing a Motorcycle through the only hole traffic allowed for survival.

It's Rare, no one at the time believe's you sometimes, but that's a near hollywood miracle.
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Thunderbolt_dad
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

....'I had to lay it down'....my '98 Trophy was forcefully slammed into the ground on purpose...to allow me to dismount on the pavement rather than into the back end of a parked car...after scraping the pegs to avoid being demolished by an idiot in a cage running a stop sign...damage to me...minor road rash...damage to bike...totalled....damage to me if I had not driven it to the pavement would most likely have been two broken legs...the ergo's on a Trophy do not allow for speedy dismounts in a vertical position....but on the high note...the Trophy being wrecked on 9/10/01 brought out the patriotism in me when I went in search of new wheels...bought a '99 lightning and the rest is hooligan history...
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Tex
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 02:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good end of the year pricing on 2004 Buell's. Call Rose or Adam 219-934-6366
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Ccryder
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 02:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just my $0.02 (maybe a $1.00 or 2 more)

I feel the need to chime in here about motorcycles and accidents with other vehicles. After 30+ years and 500,000+ miles of riding I have learned to pretend that I am invisible. As two-wheeled riders we will not come out on the good end of the stick with an accident with a bigger vehicle. Our pride may get in our way and tell us we have the right-of-way, and that may be legally true, but we will be the one that is bleeding, maimed or, worse.

I ride 300 days a year and every intersection, driveway, alley and anywhere a vehicle might come from is MY responsibility to make sure that there is not a vehicle that may intrude on me. Red light, stop sign, yield sign, one-way street (Yeah don’t bet no one goes the wrong way on a one-way street) we as motorcycle riders have the responsibility to make sure that no one is doing something that might cause injury to us. BTW one really good tip I was taught, too many moons ago, is to look into parked cars for a head in the drivers seat. This would have saved me from my very first accident!

On a daily basis I can tell you about some cage driver doing something that could have turned into a very bad situation had I not been 110% aware of who and what was about to enter my danger zone. If you don’t check cross traffic at those red lights/ stop signs and you get hit or have to “lay it down”, I will feel sorry for you, but it could have been avoided if you had looked, slowed slightly, or just been aware of an escape route to take in the event of someone doing something that would cause you bodily harm.

You might be “in-the-right” (as far as the law is concerned) but you might be dead right.
Drive defensively like your life depends on it, because it does!}

Ride More, Lean More, Grin More.

Neil S.

p.s. Don't get me started on protective gear! All I can say in regrads to that is: I would rather sweat a little than bleed a little.
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Jim_sb
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 02:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

I feel the need to chime in here about motorcycles and accidents with other vehicles. After 30+ years and 500,000+ miles of riding I have learned to pretend that I am invisible



Amen.

FYI, despite rumors you may have heard to the contrary, I actually *am* invisible and photographs exist which prove same. I endeavor to ride accordingly.

Jim in Santa Barbara
'96 S2
'04 DRZ400S
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Court
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 03:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>After 30+ years and 500,000+ miles of EXCELLENT riding

I added the emphasis.

Well said Neil...may I quote you?

Court
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Hans
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 03:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ccryder: That was the shortest, and best, refreshment course of the year, till this far. Thanks. Hans
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Midknyte
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 04:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, it happened to me now, yesterday.

Made a run to the hardware store. Returning to the parking lot finding not one, not two, but three, and get this, three generations giving my Buell the look over. Gramps can't get over that it's a "Harley", next gen is explaining everything, kid's on the ground looking up at it.

Ok, alright, it's old hat to the rest of you. You'll just have to conjur up your first time feelings. I was downright proud. Thanks Erik!
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Bomber
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 04:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

one of the benefits of Buell ownership . . . . I love it when I stop at other brands shops for gear and like that, and their sales people pile outa the store to talkjj about the MaDeuece . . . .
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Ccryder
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 04:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court:
It's all your's and anyone else that wants it. If it can help one fellow rider avoid an accident it's I feel honored I could help.

Time2Work

Neil S.
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Witch1
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 05:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi all, got the local dealer to fire up the blast finally. Love the way it feels and sounds. Clutch feels good...had been told I'd find o-wise. Just want to know, truthfully, what kind of problems can I expect out of one of these bikes? So many people have cut them down all over the net. Ignition modules, TPS, intake boots, automatic enrichener...what kind of problems am I probably going to have if any? Are these things worth buying. Would really appreciate any feedback as we're looking at buying within next couple weeks. Thanx, witchy.
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Cj_xb
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 05:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just want to know, truthfully, what kind of problems can I expect out of one of these bikes?

I had a Blast and LOVED it !! Only problem I had was a rocker box gasket leak, seems the older ones had a paper gasket and you'd have that problem. Newer models now from what I understand have the metal gasket and you wouldn't have that issue.

I put over 10,000 miles on it before trading it in for an XB !!

CJ : )
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