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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd test ride a gixxer, but the local shop I asked about test rides at just about laughed at the idea. Oh well, maybe the next time I'm in Oregon.

And I'd still like to find and ride an ancient Maico 505 3-speed dirt bike. The magazine article I read when they first came out still haunts the recesses of my mind. :)
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Bluzm2
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mikej,
You are EVIL!!!
I've also been keeping my eye out for an old Maico!
Talk about a nightmare finding parts though....

Ray,
The Tul-aris, is a hand built, one off 2 stroke race bike. The motor is a 2 cylinder snowmobile derivitive. The motor is a stressed frame member with everything bolting to it.
The bike is mostly carbon fiber, if memory serves even the tranny case is CF.
I've got pictures somewhere, I'll post them tonight if I can find them.
Pretty cool bike really.

Brad

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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Brad,
I find a few Maico's around from time to time, but they're not complete enough, or the owners want too much for them, or they're too new. I saw a couple last year at Iola in mostly basket-case condition.

Did you get the Blast? I was up in EauClaire a few weeks ago, but time was short otherwise we would have headed up to MN for an afternoon. When is the Blues Fest in Duluth?
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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maico, possible Land Speed Scooter?

http://adcache.cycletrader.com/5/3/6/42328636.htm

LSR Scooter?
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Buelliedan
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Roger, This is a good read. No hard facts but it puts what was said into context:

http://www.americanmotor.com/news.cfm?newsid=1682
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S320002
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ray,
There was a write up on the Tul-aris a year or so back in one of the moto-mags. Cycle World or Motorcyclist I think.
This is the kind of thing AMAPR is missing with their narrow-focus classes. Go FUSA!

Greg
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Dustykat
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



Filppin keeeerist..You can buy a BRAND new 2000 M2 for the price of that Maico scooter!!!!



Pimpin aint easy!
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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 12:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

But that is not the point. ;)
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Eeeeek
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 12:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Chad:

You haven't been around here very long, have you?

::Pops a bag of pocorn and waits for Mikey to log back in::
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 01:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

He could have been here for more than two years and not come to know Mike.
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Bads1
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 01:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Tul-aris was tested about three years ago on speedvision,I think it was bike week.
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Bluzm2
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 01:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mike,
That thing is so fugly it's cool!!!! But the price!!!

Pretty much my experience with the Maico's too.
Either total basket cases, missingmany parts or way too much $$$

Brad

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Choptop
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 02:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

lets seeeee... 1 of 20, foreign, old?

Run, dont walk, RUN away from this one as fast as you can.

you will spend 3x as much as purchase price trying to get this sucker running. Trust me. I've been trying to find parts for the 54 Guzzi for a while now, the onlu place you can get them is at swap meets in Italy. Nice. And they made a TON of the model I have. Parts is still scarce.

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Choptop
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 03:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For me the fustration with Buell boils down to this:

Wasted Potential

What if Ducati's only model was the Multi-Strata?
What if Aprili's only modelswas the CapoNord and the RS250?
What if Harley only made the 883 Hugger?


Wasted potential.


The cruiser craze will wane. Harley will eventually have to use Buell for something more than a testbed for their new Sortster engine. Hopefully it will be to make $ (I'm a stock holder) and to grab a bit of market share.


as far as Harley spending too much on racing already... WHERE? In the All Harley Drags? Which, according to Harley, arent really Harley's at all and shouldnt be using the name?

I dont buy it.

Heck when Harley SUCKED at racing, they still drew a crowd to SuperBike to watch. Think what would happen if they were consistantly on the podium.
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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yep, I was just looking for grins and came across that scooter. I have no desire to own it, at least not at anywhere near that asking price.
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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 03:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

isn't it strange/funny that h-d legal will jump all over someone on ebay, but will let anyone run at the allHD drags? Selective enforcement perhaps.
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Iamsaeedalsahaf
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 03:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ANYONE out there with a high mileage 99 X1 Lightning? I have 20750 miles on mine and was wondering when I should turn it in? I was thinking maybe I could put another 20K on the bike?}}
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Grndskpr
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 03:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Dan, but the problem with this info is it all dates back over 4 years, i think thats why HD is trying to get a new study going, at least thats what they had mentioned, i think there afraid of creating another era of people who are scared to buy a bike that will kill them, just a thought.
Roger
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Choptop
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 03:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Iam, i'll give a shiney nickle if you get another 20k out of a 99X1 without cracking the motor open.

In the mean time, ride the snot out of it, enjoy it.
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Rick_a
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 04:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm a big fan of aircooled twins and modern Thumpers. Anything else is of little interest. Those bikes have enough power to be fun, and motors that are gorgeous in their ease of maintenance and simplicity. IMO there is no reason to own something I couldn't practically use to anywhere near its potential, and that is superseded by the next year.
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 04:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Chop, I'll take that nickel. I've got 41K on mine and have only had to replace the rockerbox gaskets.
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Ccryder
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 04:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My 00' X-1(3) has 33,000 and it is running STRONG, well not as strong as my 96' S2T but it has been Nalinized. Ride it like you stole it and keep the oil changed. Best bang for the $'s is the race ECM with a good slip-on.

Later
Neil S.
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 05:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just a nickel? Cheapskate!
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Iamsaeedalsahaf
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 05:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, for those who have had to go to hell and back with the X1 what is your riding style? Very aggressive? Honestly, I bought mine at 20K knowing well they were problematic so I ride mine like a Harley: nice and easy. The only reason I ask is because I found this site after I bought it. Some of you make me feel like an ass after my latest purchase. Will some of you who have so many miles help me understand what kind of maintenance is required? I change the oil every 1000 miles. Should I change it sooner? How often should I bring it in to the dealership and have it serviced? The only problem I have had so far is a squeaky front brake. I just had the rotor and shoes replaced! The rear break has little pressure, but I think the bake line is too long. Then sometimes when shifting I hear a rattling noise that requires me to reengage the clutch and play with the gears. That only happened twice. I am thinking about selling it ever since I read some of the horror stories on this site. Thanks - Saeed, Iraq's Illustrious Prime Minister of Information.
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Dynarider
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 05:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Im pretty hard on my bikes, wheelies, stoppies, burnouts, etc. But then that is the way the bikes were marketed also, as wheelie hooligan machines.

But I have also used all my other bikes in the same exact way...well except for the wheelies & stoppies on my harley, kinda tuff to do em:D..and have had no problems with the other bikes.

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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Saeed... Don't worry, I had far more problems with my Cyclone between 3k and 7k miles then I have had from 7k to 15k now. I think they just have to go through an awkward phase around puberty. :)

The shifting clanking thing is more then likely a split primary chain tensioner. The new part ($15) is much better, and it is a pretty easy job, see the knowledge vault. Go with full synthetic gear oil for even better shifting.

If you have a good dealer, they can do it cheap, but most of us have had far more dealer induced problems then Buell induced problems.

1000 is (IMHO) way early for oil changes. Use full synthetic and go 3000 or 3500 between changes (which is still probably on the early side). Unless you never ride the thing, then change it every few months to keep water from accumulating.

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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 05:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You don't need to change your oil every 1K miles. There are a few things you should do. First, replace your primary chain tensioner with the updated part. ($15) The old one is a new transmission waiting to happen. Proper adjustment of the chain will most likely alleviate the sloppy shifting. Put the new metal rockerbox gaskets on. Buy a race ECM, even if you don't have an aftermarket exhaust. Buy an aftermarket exhaust. I personally would recommend a D&D. Fat midrange, good sound. The 99's got a bad rap because of glitchy EFI maps in early production. This was sorted out by the end of the year. Your dealer can check the version and if necessary, update it for you, but you're better off getting a race ECM. Enjoy your bike man. Don't let the vocal minority put a damper on you.
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 05:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry for the redundancy. I got outposted!! Damn speed typers!
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Jim_witt
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 07:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

José asked:

Btw, has anyone compared the price of a 10,000 mile service on an XB compared to a Vrod at your local dealer?


Checked two dealerships today and they both were within a couple of dollars of each other ($435.00 and $439.00) including parts and labor but no tax.

-JW:>;)
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Mikeyp
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 07:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Chad said....


"Mikeyp,

If your S1 is really handling that sloppy, you need to fix it. Your fault, not the bike's.
Sorry you have such crappy backroads, this is not the bike's fault either.
Tight and twisty backroads are where an S1 really shines. Your "Buell Sucks" statement says more about your backroads than your Buell.
PS Don't say "Buells Suck" anymore.
Thanks, Chad"

Yo Chadly, I can and will say Buell's suck anytime i want to. I was one of the original poster children for Buell(sucks), hell, i got a Buell(sucks) Tattoo, that's how nuts i was over them.

I don't know about you, but for a while, i looked at Buell's (sucks) through rose colored glasses.
I felt that riding an american bike, like a Buell (sucks) would overcome everyand anything out on the road. While i did ride the bike hard, and did pull in a few racer reps in the turns, they always dusted me and my Buell(sucks)in the straightaways. Listen, i'm not asking for 170hp outta a Buell (sucksdick)powerplant. 120HP would be pure magic. And to me, that ain't a whole hell of alot to ask for from Buell, (suckacock).

AS for my Buell (sucksdonkeynuts)suspension and braking, well, i warped three stock rotors, and one EBC race rotor. I since have cobbled up a Dual front Brembo robbed from a Ducati 996. Stopping ain't a problem no more for my Buell (sucksaknob)anymore


My isolaters are in tip top shape, and there is no way your gonna tell me about my Buells (sucksacrackhoesrottenass) suspension. It's inherently a bad design, not my fault.

Out of the box, there is no way you can compare it to my RC's. I dumped enough of my hard earned money into my Buell (sucksfart)to finally realise it will never-ever be a world class motorcycle. It's just the best handling and visually stunning motorcycle the freaking Motor Company has ever made.(Some testament, huh?)

I need to regress a moment. Court mentioned in one of his posts about all the Design awards Buell(sucks)has gotten. Well, that's all good really. When Buell(sucks) starts getting reliabilty awards, well, now we're talking. Anyone can design something pretty, but it needs to work also. Buell (sucks) has yet to do this.

As for my roads, dude, really, come on. How can you even make a comment like that? I'm a short trip from PA, and me and my retarded friends, (which include Cecil)ride some breathtaking roads.He had a Buell (sucksashavedsack)once, a long time ago, but has since moved on to a ZX-12 to compensate for his tiny genitalia. Whatever...

Oh yeah,back to the roads...
I rode 420 miles a few sundays ago. Tightstuff, sweepers, and one road that had as many elevation changes as a roller coaster. If your nearby, i'd love to show them to you and your Buell(sucksathighspeeds). Just let me know. I'll make sure we stop and wait for you at the stopsigns.

The only thing Buell(sucks)has in it's favor over the racereps is BattleTrax. I tried it on my RC, and i was horrible at it.

I'm tired, i havn't posted something this long in years. It's hurting my brain.

Blake, man, you know i'll never sell my Buell(sucksatresale), it's like Herpes, i'm gonna have it forever.

The kids and wife are just fine. Anytime you get a chance up this way again, let me know. I'd be more than happy to let you ride my Buell (sucksasprimarybike)on up to Sleepers for some swimming. (That was a GOOD day!)



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