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Dave
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 07:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

On enquiring about "BUELL 2000-2002 S3T shallow city saddlebag covers/lids. These are now restricted items from BUELL." on ebay...

I was informed by the seller;

"Buell now asks for vin number for the luggage parts to confirm that they are for an actual S3..This is new and was told to me by the local Buell dealer."

ANyone heard of such a policy now? Seems ridiculous to me or possibly misinterpreted due to the p/n issue with the pre/post '99 lids.

DAve
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 07:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>These are now restricted items from BUELL.

Not sure what is up with the saddlebags, but if I were Buell I'd be tracking and prosecuting some of the may folks selling unlicensed Buell paraphenalia.

Court
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Dave
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 07:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Roger that Court...
...time will tell

DAve
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Dynarider
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 08:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Buell now asks for vin number for the luggage parts to confirm that they are for an actual S3..This is new and was told to me by the local Buell dealer."

Sounds like bull to me. What difference would it make to a dealer or Buell if a person wanted to order 200 of the damn things to nail on the side of their garage or whatever?
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 08:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>Sounds like bull to me.

What doesn't?
:)
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 08:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's just my guess and I'll see if I can find out, but I'd guess the V.I.N. tracking (as Harley-Davidson Motor Co. does with some parts) results from an effort to increase customer satisfaction.

The Buell saddlebags were updated a number of times in direct response to owner input and comments. a special engineering team, with Dave and Doug two of Buells brightest, decided to make a brave move that included running improvements. A great deal of what influenced this was DIRECT INPUT from owners, a benefit attibutable to Buell close contact (BattleTrax, Erik attending events and the LC research) with their customers.

Buell may not have always been right, but they've ALWAYS been RIGHT THERE and ready to listen.

The saddlebags are an EXPENSIVE item. One of the unique things about expensive items is that if consumers wait on them (see Patricia Seybold) and they arrive and don't fit, there is an elevated level of owner dissaffection.

I'm guessing, but if I were involved in the program, I'd want the V.I.N. to insure the prodcut I shipped fit the bike it was shipped for.

By the way, this process of taking ongoing improvements to the production line is pretty ballsy and not common. Buell owners asked for it and Buell did some amazing thing.

I don't KNOW that this is the right explanation, but my bet is that Buell and Harley-Davidson (arguably one of the most powerful marketing forces in the world) didn't do this to make it more difficult for people to send them money.

Court
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Dynarider
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 08:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



Courts first day on the job?:D


Easy fix
Moderator
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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 08:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey, how'd you get inside my workplace with a camera? Looks just like here, except the dino's here have cigarettes sticking out of their mouths. My cubicle is inside the stump in the foreground. ;)
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Dave
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 09:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm glad this is good natured jokin'...an outsider might think there's a bit of malice involved.

DAve
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Dynarider
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 09:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nope, just having a little harmless fun. Think Im overtired, been up since 5 am yesterday.

Besides that, we dont have any outsiders here. Everyones family. Blake & Court are just like my twin brothers I never wanted:D
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 09:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anybody else been around Buell to remember who "Court's Twin Brother" is?

Lots to be said for being a "Dynasaur" . . anybody who remember who the most rabid Buell owner of all time was?

Who can name 10 people who were daily posting regulars on the Buell Bulletin Boards on 1994/5?

Hint: One of them was a fairly famous rider who got his job after he answered a want ad after a long period of unemployment.

2nd Hint: His wife was a Doctor.

Caveat: Denise is not allowed to answer. :)

Court
(Lotta difference twinxt "old and tired" and "experinced";)
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1320
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does anyone know the stamped number on the wheel bearings for Buell wheels? Not the Buell part number but the actual number on the bearing for cross referance purposes...Thanks!
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Dynarider
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 10:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Who can name 10 people who were daily posting regulars on the Buell Bulletin Boards on 1994/5?

I didnt think Al Gore had invented the internet that far back?:D
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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

He didn't. Everything was on university or military servers and all bulletin boards were on compu$erve and all users used a 4x40 display on radio shack trs-80's and the navigation tool of the day was lynx or gopher. GPS stood for GoPartySomemore. ;)
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's an inaccurate statement. Buell online was alive and well.

Here....try an easier one.

Name the first manufacturer of wheeled vehicles to have www site.

:)

Trick question....
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Dynarider
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 10:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I couldnt even imagine trying to surf on something like the old Texas Instruments TI or a Commodore 64, what a couple of piles those things were.


Hmmm first wheeled vehicle www site....no idea but I will guess it was a skateboard company.
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S2pengy
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court
Are you going to let the penguin answer this time????
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sit tight Pengy.....you've been in this game for way to long and are hopelessly laden with facts.

Remember when we kept the database of all Buell articles (as in everytime the word "Buell" appeared) on your computer? Remember the big day you started the 2nd page?

I still have the printouts you kept me armed with.

Still have a record of everytime the word Buell is mentioned?

Court
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know Buell was the first MOTORIZED wheeled vehicle company to have a web site. Not sure about skateboards though.
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Dave
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 11:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court,
What's the chance of seeing some of those old postings? Sounds cool.
DAve
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Roc
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 12:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

1320 - See wheels and tires section of the KV, the #'s are on the top of the section.
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Awgrimm
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 01:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The discussion of old websites reminds me of something that I have been meaning to post for a while. Some time ago I saw a post on here lamenting the fact that Buell did not offer archived versions of their old sites. Well there is an organization that does this for almost ALL sites (yes, that's a lot), and has been doing so since 1996.

To quote from their site:
"The Internet Archive, working with Alexa Internet, has created the Wayback Machine. The Wayback Machine makes it possible to surf more than 10 billion pages stored in the Internet Archive's web archive. The Wayback Machine was unveiled on October 24th, 2001 at U.C. Berkeley's Bancroft Library. Visit the Wayback Machine by entering an URL above or clicking on specific collections below."

The URL is: http://www.archive.org/web/web.php

Just an idea of how much storage is required to accomplish this:
"The Internet Archive Wayback Machine contains over 100 terabytes of data and is currently growing at a rate of 12 terabytes per month. This eclipses the amount of text contained in the world's largest libraries, including the Library of Congress. If you tried to place the entire contents of the archive onto floppy disks (we don't recommend this!) and laid them end to end, it would stretch from New York, past Los Angeles, and halfway to Hawaii."

And yes, Buell.com is archived: http://web.archive.org/web/19980114014119/http://buell.com/

Enjoy-
Brad
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Sparky
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 01:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I thought it was VERY COOL that Erik had his company on the internet back in '95 and he was so accessible. I remember seeing the 96 S1 on the Buell website back in '95 and emailing Erik questions about availability in SoCal. He promptly answered followed by a more detailed answer by Scott Miller stating when they should be arriving and that I should stop by the Anaheim show to see all the new models. Well, I did, and when I saw the video of the Lightning and how far it could lean into turns and effortlessly wheelie down the straights, I was blown away! I promptly put a deposit on a Lightning at the nearest dealer who had one ready for sale.

Then while breaking in the new bike, I emailed Erik again with comments and questions. I said I was having fun breaking it in, & that the new bike generated praiseworthy attention, & asked questions about accessories, carb difference rationale between S2 & S1, & tank bag interference with the tank vent hose. Re the latter, he replied, "Maybe the vent could be modified to a 90 degree fitting, but we haven't done it." So perhaps if my email contributed to BMC's change to 90 degree fittings on later models, y'all can blame me and this (then) new fangled thang called the internet.:)

Sparky
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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 01:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

S1 race prep tips from the above site archive, very interesting.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 02:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Very cool link MikeJ... Great stuff.

And that answered another question for me... I helped a buddy replace a leaking rocker box gasket (err... I mean valve cover gasket ;) ) on an old Yamaha Radian (600cc UJM) I sold him, and have most of a tube of yamabond left over. I was thinking of using it to put on the next primary cover gasket I install. Sounds like it would be safe.
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Bluzm2
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 03:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Reep,
Yamabond, Ahh yes, brings back old memories!
Number one and two, don't remember which one was which.... killed off those brain cells long ago...
I used MANY tubes of the red and silver stuff back in my dirt bike racing days. No center gaskets on the two stroke cases, just Yamabond (red if memory serves).
Stuff worked great! I used to use it on every Honda or Yamaha I ever worked on. The old CR125's and 250's used to eat 2nd and 3rd gears when you bumped up the horsepower. It got so that I could do a tranny rebuild in about 30 minutes if the motor was out of the bike.
A couple of forks, a couple of gears, check the clearances and slap it back together.
Had them back in the bike before the Yamabond set!
Even stopped using clutch cover gaskets, just gooped them and tightened down the screws.

I can still smell the stuff if I think about it...

Stuff would probably work great on a primary cover...

Brad
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Bluzm2
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Admin,
Can someone resize Dyna's dynosaur pic?
Screens are too wide.


Thanks
BJ
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 03:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BJ:

Does it fit your screen now?
Dynasaurs from when Court was young
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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 03:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just post 97 comments and it will scroll off. :)
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Bluzm2
Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 04:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Court, I guess I had that coming.....:)
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