Saw this on Craigslist http://reno.craigslist.org/mcy/4546635403.html Not sure if it is a good price or not, just wanted to give it some visibility. Seller is asking $7000 and the bike has 2100 miles on it. Paint is pealing on the tank.
Thanks - I have been e-mailing back and forth with Matt via the CL ad. There may be a bit of fur on the titling - bike is from New York with expired tags, owner is in SoCal, bike is in Nevada. Matt is basically acting as agent for Marc, the owner. Phone number I got for the owner may not be correct. **sigh**
Complicated, but if the title comes up clean- I am going to try to make her mine.
Be careful, you may get the shaft from cali dmv, if you bring a bike (vehicle) into cali w less than 8k on the clock they will blackball the vin. It happened to the guy I sold my S1W to YEARS AGO. Idk why
More hair on the deal - owner is apparently riding back to New York from Cali. Phone number Matt had was not the right one - got an e-mail for the owner through another guy, requested a correct phone #.
Spidey sense is twitching right now, but I will see this through a bit further...
Got a hold of Marc....without getting into the specifics in a public forum , the prospects of titling this one cleanly is beginning to resemble an adult sheep due to all the hair on it...
With Marc on the road, there will be a few days before I will know for sure if I will be moving forward. I hope I can, but he way must be made clear....
There should not be any problem bringing it into California, regardless of mileage. It's 7500 miles OR 5 years old. I think it qualifies as more than five years old. I did it with a BMW R100GS/PD
The BMW Paris Dakar model was NOT a 50 state bike. That's specifically why I had to bring one in from out of state (no charcoal canister). I had to invoke the 5 year rule. It was a 1995 model and I bought it in 2001 with 746 miles on it.
Unless they've changed it again, that was specifically the law I had to invoke to register the bike.
The multi-owner title transfer thing is a different story though...
Thanks. pm sent. I really like the particular combination of this one - I like the Grey and I really like the single seat. That said, I am too olde to let my heart get in the way of the hard facts that the bike right now as it sits would be nearly impossible to title ANYWHERE.
Right now the next steps are in the hands of the seller in terms of getting the title straightened out - if that happens and I can be confident I can complete title transfer then I will move forward - if I choose not to do so I will post and let the board know.
If you have any documentation that has that 5 year rule, I'd shore appreciate it if you could send it across to me - it may REALLY simplify this. Thanks.
I met Marc through his friend Greyson that lives not far from me. I've worked on several of his cars and also work on bikes. So Marc trailered up his 87 HD FXR and Buell for me to get running.
The FXR is already good to go and he road it back to CA enjoy for a short while then sell later.
The Buell he just wants to sell. I figured it will sell much better if it was in at least running condition. If there is an issue to get it titled in CA, It probably wont have any problem getting titled here in Nevada. But since the parts to get it running came out of my pocket, the cost for the reg/title would have to be paid by someone else. So if a serious buyer want to work it out with Marc for the fees, I can get the ball rolling here. Feel free to check out my YouTube channel DaytonCarCare, to see that I am a real person and not a scammer. LoL I work on mostly German cars, but there are bikes on there as well.
If the bike comes with a clear title, it will not be inspected. If it doesn't have a title and needs to be inspected by CHP, how difficult can it be to find a circa 1992 Sportster speedo with more than 7,500 on it? Just sayin' . . .
In Nevada, they just do a VIN inspection. As long as the VIN matches the title they don't care how many miles are on a vehicle more than 9 years old. Also where I live my county doesn't require you to smog your vehicle either. So anything out of state I just show up with title and proof of insurance, VIN inspection take about 5-10 minutes and I get the plates/tags the same day. The title comes in the mail about 10-14 days later.
I agree with the odometer thing. Whats to stop someone from just finding another with more mileage and installing it?
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I'm the guy that you've been trading e-mails with regarding this thing.
Like I said, I have a workaround for the Odometer thing. To change speedometers to get around that law would be a Federal crime, so of course no one would recommend doing it on a public forum. But I think it can be handled a couple of ways that will not necessitate that, anyway
I cc'd you on my communication to Marc re: the title and some workarounds for it's current state. I am just waiting to hear from you that the current title is in your possession and then we can move forward.
I assume the odometer thing people might do in CA since they want to make it so damn difficult at the DMV there One reason I move to NV, the CA DMV is a nightmare.
I received an email from Marc... He's trying to find out if he needs proof of insurance to get it titled... since it's going to be a "non-op" then there shouldn't be a problem
I will have to find out if/when he's coming up here to do that He could also use his friends (Greyson) address up here in NV too rather than go through me so there are options I really don't see any hang ups or issues getting the title current in NV Since living here I've probably titled at least ten of my own vehicles (buy, fix up, use for a while, then sell for something else to fix up... Currently have a BMW M3 might sell that soon to get into ??? not sure)
Just waiting to hear back, but sounds like it's in motion
Matt
(Message edited by bimmerman4ever on July 03, 2014)
In CA, you do not need Insurance to do a title trip or registration, but once registration is complete, you have 30 days to get insurance. For a none-op vehicle you obviously do not need it at all.
Last contact with Marc was a few days ago. Right now we're all waiting for a new title from the State of New York to arrive. I have tentatively scheduled next Friday as the big day, but it all swings on the documentation from New York. Like I said - if I decide not to go forward, I will post here ASAP so someone else can step up.
I was able to get my 1991 RS titled in CA with no problems at all, well, almost. It was a NY bike with 11,000 approx. on ODO. It did have to be inspected by the DMV here in CA.
That 'almost' problem was that I came very close to committing mayhem, possible murder on the idiot DMV guy that got up into my truck with the bike on it with his metal covered clipboard, and INSISTED on trying to put the clipboard on the tank. See my profile for a shot of the bike. Custom paint, S2 bodywork with a nice flat area on top of the tank. I intercepted that clipboard no less than 4 times, inches before it got to the tank. I politely told him that I would gladly hold his clipboard for him while he was down looking at the pertinent numbers, etc, to which he replied "I'll just put it there where it's flat". I looked him in the eye and just said, very distinctly, "no, you won't." He started to protest and I just leaned in a bit and repeated that.
He finished up and I got my title. Close one.
That was years ago and bike is long since sold. Avoid the Panorama City DMV.
You could easily get another speedo (loaner from another badwebber?) with more miles than what's on it to get it through the title gauntlet. You do need over 7,500 to bypass the CA EPA or AQMD requirements.
Marc was able to get out the shears and remove all of the hair from the deal. The DMV in New York took longer than planned to do their part, so it will be a couple of weeks before she comes home.