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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, May 01, 2002 - 03:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jerry,
Just say when. Don't remember if I had the swingarm stand then, but if not I got one now (semi-transportable on the back of the bike even). Much easier than hanging the bike, lighter too.
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Robtinker
Posted on Wednesday, May 01, 2002 - 08:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

hoss,
i'm having the same carb problems with my 2002 black blast i just bought 1 week ago.
mine happens at slower speeds, i only have 115 miles on mine so i have yet to take it on the freeway. it's also my first bike.
it feels like it's starving for gas, maybe we both need to rejet the carb and i need the vance & hines exaust. what does the exaust sond like?, throaty or whining like a jap bike?
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Dansherman
Posted on Wednesday, May 01, 2002 - 09:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Guys - Thanks for the input on the tire, I'll take it off myself and probably get the pirellis.

Hoss and Robtinker - I've got the Vance and Hines on my UNJETTED 2001. I haven't noticed any problems with it, maybe it's a 2002 thing? I've put on most of my miles on the freeway too.
The specs that I've seen say 2.8 gallon tank with 0.8 of that as the reserve. That's a THIRD of the tank. I actually usually leave my petcock on reserve and just fill up around 130 miles.

Robtinker - the Vance and Hines pipe on the blast shakes the pavement. Not as much as some of the huge twins out there, but it's really deep and throaty.

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dan
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Aaron
Posted on Wednesday, May 01, 2002 - 09:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Next time it does it, pop your gas cap loose and see if it responds.
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Dansherman
Posted on Wednesday, May 01, 2002 - 09:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is a pretty basic question, but what do the numbers mean for a tire? 120/80? Just a guess, but is the 120 = width in milimeters? If so, what is the 80?

Second quickie - Which pirellis fit the blast?

Thanks
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dan
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Aaron
Posted on Wednesday, May 01, 2002 - 10:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sidewall is 80% of tread width.

Total height would be (((120/25.4) * .8) * 2) + 16

(the times 2 is because you have 2 sidewalls across the diameter of the tire)
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Xgecko
Posted on Wednesday, May 01, 2002 - 11:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dash, Pirelli MT75's are the tire that fits the Blast.
I did a lot of massaging to my Blast today. Trimmed about an inch off the clubman bars and reshaped the sides of the fairing...a lot. I can now go lock to lock without triggering the horn or the starter. I'm not saying that things aren't tight at lock but I like the way it feels and with the mods to the bars I'm a bit further back in my seat (wheelies????).
As for the Corbin seat. I worked on fitting it today as well and I removed almost all of the gap at the rear. Surprisingly this was acheived by bending the metal tab that fits into the frame at the from of the seat. Bending it away from the seat made everything fit better
I attracked a bit of attention today when a tourist pulled in front of me and then slammed on the brakes for a yellow light. Thank the gods that I've been working on my stoppies because I floated one today for about 15feet. A Cop at a construction site came over and asked if I was OK and then cited the tourists (statesiders) for reckless driving...YEAH!!!
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Prof_Stack
Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 01:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hoss, sounds like carb issues with the VH pipe attached to your motor. Make sure the exhaust is correctly affixed with no leakage near the head.

Reserve tank kicks in around 120-140 miles for my riding. Others say that they've never put more than 2.4 gal in at a time. I usually refill around 120 miles anyway.

Tires: the Pirelli MT75's are great, don't waste your time or money with the OEM Dunlops.

OIL QUESTION: nothing stirs up a froth like oil discussions . But this one is simple: would changing from HD 20W50 to Mobil 1 15W50 be a good thing to do for my Blast (6600 miles)?
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Xgecko
Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 01:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My experience on that question Prof is that Mobil1 ends up cleaner at the end of the oil interval than HD does. Chevron makes a 20W50 synth. that works real well too.
120's is about what I get before the reserve kicks in. I switch at 115 or find a gas station to prevent those sputter sputter oopps where's the valve episodes on the hiway
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Dust_Storm
Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 01:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tony - Good heads up Glad to see your okay, and even better to see the cager got caught.

Dan - Tires, hmmm... 120mm is the curvature of the tire (the outside tread curve) 80mm is the sidewall depth (the area between the edge of the curve and the rim) and 16" is the rim size. I've heard of everything from a 120/80 on the rear to a 150/40 with swingarm mod. On the front I've heard from 100/80 to 120/80,100/90 to 110/90.
Currently I'm running 130/90 on the rear and a 110/90 on the front(Dunlop K550). The tires are a higher rating than stock, so they grip more, but my turn in has been decreased. The best tires on this bike would be the 120/90 rear and 100/90 front (IMHO), as the 80's are just too tight for my tastes. Bigger tires on these bikes suffer for turning (eg, fatter tire decreases tire curvature, makes the contact patch screwy, bad things happen). Might be a different story for 17" rims though.. need to get a set! I've heard wonderful things about the Dunlop K591, but they are no longer in production.. (100/90-16, 120/90-16)

Hoss - is it hot out? Try the open tank thing Aaron sugggested, it's saved my butt a few times. Also do a quick check on your primary chain, even though it's factory stock, it might be too tight(happened to me once by the dealer, adjusted it, no more "starving" syndroms..). And don't forget to pickup the shop manaual for your new P3, it's a lifesaver!


Question for those knowledgable - the 17" rim conversion for the Blast uses Buell rims or another brand? If another brand, are they the standard 3.5-5.5" 17's, or could you use the 3-4.5" rims off an 89-91 Honda VTR250? I would think the tighter rims would work better for the smaller bike.. the 520 chain is an added bonus, for better gearing selection.

Also - Stock 2001 Blast gear ratio is 72/??(26 I think), using a chain and dropping the ratio, would you gain more top end speed and lose torque, or simply push the torque band out into the gears farther? I'm confused as to the effect on dropping the gear ratio to the usable powerband.. Hell, I'm just confused period

[Ds]
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 03:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dan,

Forget everything DS just posted about the meaning of tire size designations! Ain't any of it correct. Like Aaron already stated, in a 120/80R16 designation the "120" is the width in mm, and the "80" is the depth from inner bead to outer tread radii expressed as % of width. The "R" indicates a radial tire construction, and the "16" is the rim diameter in inches (hence Aaron's 25.4 mm/inch conversion factor). You will also usually see an additional letter preceding the "R" in the tire designation. That letter indicates the tire's speed rating as follows:

Speed Symbol Maximum Speed
J 62 MPH
K 68 MPH
L 75 MPH
M 81 MPH
N 87 MPH
P 93 MPH
Q 99 MPH
R 106 MPH
S 112 MPH
T 118 MPH
U 124 MPH
H 130 MPH
V 149 MPH
W 168 MPH
Y 186 MPH
Z ??? MPH


The dunlop site has a good detailed explanations of all the above if you want to learn more.
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Ezblast
Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 09:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

hoss - it could also be the smog canister full of water. - If you do a lot of early morn. commutting like I do(read fog) moisture builds up in it - happened to me - free trade out for new one(EPA rules)try more sunny warm rides to dissipate condensation from new smog canister - lol - Blasting on the darkside!
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Mikej
Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 10:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sounds like you need a catch can and drain tube for the charcoal can.
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Dansherman
Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Xgecko - Trimming the bars was a really good idea! I've been thinking that they were a little wide, but it never occured to me to trim them down.

As for changing oil.. I just let it puke out the breather hole and then add more.. whatever I can find at the station that I stop at. doh.

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dan
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Xgecko
Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 02:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you use a pipe cutter to trim the bars (I do because I've had the same pipecutter in my toolbox for over 20 years) you will need to either file or dremel the inside of the bar so that your metal barends (is you use them) will fit. If you use plastic barend it will likely leave its body in the bar and the head will pull off when you try to change them. So file down the ridge. if you use a hacksaw...well clean up your edges they'll shred your grips. and remember to use windex to pull off you clutch side grip.
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Dansherman
Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the tips. I'm going to go cut them after a snack. mmm... snack...

Oh, I ordered a MT75 too. $42.95 plus shipping is a lot swallow than $104. Unless of course they charge me $60 for shipping. That would suck.

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dan
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Dust_Storm
Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 04:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Blake, I was wondering why none of the math worked out. Makes sense now!

[Ds]
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Rebelgtp
Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 06:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

was just thinking about some things at work...

--p3 -- rs50 -- rs125 -- rs250
f 2.5x16 2.5x17 3x17 3x17
r 2.75x16 3x17 4x17 4.5x17

these are the wheel sizes for the aprilia rs bikes and of course our beloved p3. dusty got me thinking earlier and i had some spare time here at work so i dug these up. there has to be a way to wedge a wheel from one of these (or similar) without to much strugle right? maybe i'm drinkin my bath water again but i think the space is there everyone has just tried larger 17 inchers. if i'm wrong please feel free to correct me with a 2x4
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Dansherman
Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 08:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, trimming those clubmans made almost as much of a difference as putting them on in the first place. I took 1.5" off and moves me up a lot higher, but mostly makes everything more comfortable. Good idea.

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dan
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Buellblast
Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

hey everyone i got my buell back in febuary im gonna change the exaust i think got to try to make it sound like a bike instead of a lawnmower my ? for yall is does anyone know if they sell a aftermarket low cut windsheild to replace that god awful windscreen the put on them if so an info would be much appriciated thanks jason
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Xgecko
Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 09:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

E Series pipe auction. expires in 25 minutes
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Roadweazel
Posted on Friday, May 03, 2002 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Greetings all. I have a few questions regarding the Blast.
1)Has anyone found Progressive or RaceTech springs for their bikes? The front end is WAY to squishy for my tastes.
2)Does anyone else have droopy front foot pegs? My peg hangers (brackets that bolt to the frame) seem to be fine, but the pegs seem sloppy at the pivot pin. My bike is used with 5K miles on it.
3)Has anyone managed to get a Dyna Ignition from a Sporty to work well on their Blast? This isn't for me directly, I have a student who (against the suggestions of myself and another instructor) is installing the Sporty Dyna module on his Blast. I informed him about the 1/2 RPM reading of the Sporty parts on the Blast and trying to get the advance curve agressive enough. Anybody out there already done this and worked out the bugs?
Please reply directly at glockweazel@yahoo.com if you can help.
Thanx.
'Weazel
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Blake
Posted on Friday, May 03, 2002 - 02:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Road Weazel, Squishy is not springs, squishy is damping. Bottoming out is springs.
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Xgecko
Posted on Friday, May 03, 2002 - 04:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK I have a problem and I hope someone can help. In second gear only I have an intermitant catch when I do a mid power (amount of throttle) roll on. RPM's seem to stay the same but it feels like the tranny is slipping. I plan on taking the bike into the dealer but I will not be able to get an appointment for at least a week (I don't leave my bike for more than a day without real good reason). This usually happens when the bike is cold (shortly after startup) but not always.
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Blake
Posted on Friday, May 03, 2002 - 05:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What do you mean by "intermittent catch"? It happens intermittently, or it happens every time but in an on-again/off-again oscillating fashion?

It sounds like you are saying that you are loosing drive but not slipping the clutch or other drivetrain components. Is that right?

It doesn't happen at WOT?

You say that it usually happens when the bike is cold but not always. Does it happen when the bike is hot?

Please clarify, I'm not sure what you mean by "catch".
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Dansherman
Posted on Friday, May 03, 2002 - 05:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Atta boy Blake, give him hell!

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Blake
Posted on Friday, May 03, 2002 - 06:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not trying to "give him hell"; trying to understand the situation so we can help him diagnose and fix it.
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Blake
Posted on Friday, May 03, 2002 - 06:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh yeah, Tony, what is the last thing you adjusted or changed on your bike just before the ploblem appeared?
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Xgecko
Posted on Friday, May 03, 2002 - 08:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blake wrote:

Quote:

It sounds like you are saying that you are loosing drive but not slipping the clutch or other drivetrain components. Is that right?




Yup that about says it (and much better than I have all day when describing it to people)


Blake wrote:

Quote:

You say that it usually happens when the bike is cold but not always. Does it happen when the bike is hot?




No not that I can remember. That's the weird thing too It only happens when the bike hasn't been rolling in a while

BTW the last thing that I have changed was a pulley cover and adding the fork brace but this probably preceeded that (hard to remember that far back as I have been on again off again so so many "Blocks" of time this last year).
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Aaron
Posted on Friday, May 03, 2002 - 08:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My S1 used to do that in 3rd. Changed two gears and a shift fork and the problem disappeared. 'Course, it's a whole ton easier to change those pieces in an S1 than a Blast.
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