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Cms1172
Posted on Saturday, October 31, 2009 - 10:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

As only a matter of his engineering GENUIS, I and others would like to know the bikes that Mr. Buell had a hand in designing.
With the history he has working sometimes with other brands, what models did he develop?
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Court
Posted on Saturday, October 31, 2009 - 11:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We're likely a bit premature with that . . . . I'd say it's two books out.

Stay tuned.

: )
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Cms1172
Posted on Saturday, October 31, 2009 - 11:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had the privilege to attend a dinner with and meet Mr. Buell. He was just as nice as nice can be, even when I took my kids up to meet him, he took special care to make sure they could simply just have a picture taken with him. They all have their signed posters hanging on their walls and they wanted a bike like their dad.
I am hoping that someday that can still happen.
LONG LIVE BUELL.
And yes I will read those books.
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Rocketman
Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 07:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Court told us at Buellganza some years ago that Erik designed a large well known Japanese bike from the ground up, including engine. It's not for me to say, nor do I know if Court was winding us up or not, lol.


Have you ever wondered how the Yamaha Warrior engine looks very ho hum, American? I have. Found its way into the stunning MT OS prototype too, and made it into production as the MT01. That's a big torque motor too!





MT OS





MT O1





Rocket
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Cms1172
Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

At first look I would have thought that was a Buell. Granted, it does look just like some one of the late nineties tubers.
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F_skinner
Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Granted, it does look just like some one of the late nineties tubers.

No where close to looking like a tuber.
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Cms1172
Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 11:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I always thought of the Honda RC51 as one of his bike, with the split radiators, like on the 1125
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Mndwgz
Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

SCHWINN is an assignee of an Eric Buell Patent. Number: 5226674
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Court
Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

SCHWINN was the one (under their upscale Paramount group) that was involved in the bike. Richard Schwinn, I'm thinking, is still floating around Chicago.

I need to give a big shout out (although the guessed facts were wrong) for the most excellent demonstration of why Buell never discusses future product and while I'd never discuss any details. There's always one in every crowd.

Erik had nothing to do with any of the bikes, except of course the Schwinn, on this page.
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Iamarchangel
Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 04:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The MT01 is a production bike?
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Hughlysses
Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

MT01 is Europe-only.
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Mndwgz
Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 05:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If I remeber correctly Erik also designed the lower fork tube/caliper mount/fender mount for some models of the Vrod and now used on the XR.
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Jaimec
Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 05:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mike Corbin has one... must've gotten it gray market. For some reason he displays it along with all of his other products at shows in the States (saw it at Daytona and Americade). Maybe he's just showing off.

In any event, that thing is HUGE compared to an M2 Cyclone. You have to see it in person to appreciate the scale.
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Palmer
Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 07:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)



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Rocketman
Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 07:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)




(Message edited by rocketman on November 01, 2009)
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Rocketman
Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 07:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rarer than a Paramount Buell......



Carbolite Tornado




Rocket
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Zac4mac
Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 07:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a 50th Anniv Paramount.





Z
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Crusty
Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That's nothing. I've got a 25th Anniversary Buell!

25th Anniversary Buell
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Jimidan
Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 12:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nice bridge Crusty.
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Xl1200r
Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The first time I met Court at a Liberty Open House event, my buddy on a Honda ST1300 and I were having a converstaion with him, and this subject came up. Court said something to the same effect, that Erik had worked with a Japanese company in the past - I could have sworn he mentioned the name Honda, but this was a few years ago and I don't want to put words in the man's mouth.

He already said it wasn't the RC51, so I'd be at a loss, anyways.

How funny would it be if the new Goldwing handles as well at it does because Erik had something to do with the chassis. Wouldn't be the first time he enginieered a 'big bike'.
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've never said what it was but be mindful Erik Buell was in the motorcycle business 20 years before he teamed up with Harley-Davidson. The famed AMERICAN DREAMER (something like a 7 page article) about Erik and his design skills was in CYCLE 7 years before Buell (the company) and Erik teamed up.

Erik raced and was very familiar with a number of bikes including Ducati, Yamaha and others. Harley-Davidson didn't "discover" him in February 1983.

In addition, by this time Erik has designed and patented a public transportation system, a bicycle and several things you may not be aware of. He was a well known, respected and sought after designer doing contract work. One of the projects he was working on, as an engineers consultant was the VR frame. This, or course, was when he explained that in order for the motor to work a tube frame was out of the question and proposed what we now know as the "fuel in frame" concept.

When the team doing the motor screwed up and got helplessly mired the "unusual" frame was an easy place to point fingers and blame.

Harley-Davidson was not the only company to have sought out Erik's design talent.

Anybody have any interest in a high resolution poster chronically Buell's history? Just waiting on final production numbers from the factory.

More will be revealed. . . .
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Csg_inc
Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 11:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

you bet send it on
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1313
Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anybody have any interest in a high resolution poster chronically Buell's history?

Most definitely!

Maybe you could send my 25 years of Buell books along
with a poster. Sorry I couldn't resist... Since I know they are in good hands I'm not worried.

DEFINITELY interested in the poster,
1313
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Bjack
Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 12:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+1 on interest in a poster.
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Hotrats
Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 01:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i'd be interested in a poster also.
h.t.rats
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Cms1172
Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Can't wait, just tell me where to order the poster.
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Cliffburton
Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 02:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i'll take two please!
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Hughlysses
Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 02:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Definitely interested in the poster; THANKS for asking!

BTW- Erik should shop his public transportation patent to DLM in Switzerland; they are involved in some similar projects: http://www.dlm-ag.ch
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Rocketman
Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 02:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've never said what it was but be mindful Erik Buell was in the motorcycle business 20 years before he teamed up with Harley-Davidson.


I remember what you told us, and the bike, wink wink nudge nudge.


Rocket
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Midknyte
Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 02:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

chronology poster? uh, yeah!
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