| Author | Message | ||
     Blake |
East Troy, Wis. (January 12, 2010) – Erik Buell Racing has sold its first race bikes, a pair of 1190RR-B European Spec superbikes, to an established privateer team with years of racing experience. The Pegasusraceteam.com team will campaign the new 1190RR-Bs in the European Sound of Thunder Series, along with Buell® 1125Rs and XBs in support classes.  Taylor Knapp on the Buell 1125R  Cory West Takes a Tighter Line Aiming to Get Past ASBK Competitors Pegram and Hodgson | ||
| Duggram |
Sounds Great! Hopefully someone over there will keep us posted. | ||
| Riohondohank |
I think Erik will soon be announcing something even more exciting. | ||
| Sparky |
I like that statement,
I take it that means without H-D's interference, LOL. Go ERIK BUELL RACING! | ||
| Reepicheep |
I caught that also, and gave a gleefull little chuckle... Where is my bolt on XB9 turbo kit! Reward the early XB Buyers! | ||
| Buell101 |
It will be interesting to see how the integrity of the ZTL2 brakes hold up with the 1190 bikes,.. If they use them at all. | ||
| Imonabuss |
The ZTL system held up just fine on the 1125RR's in AMA American Superbike, 101. Of course they were only what 165HP? Now 185HP will do them in, right? Each time the bike goes faster everyone says they won't work but they do. Remember when the mags were saying it only worked because it was on a slow Harley powered bike? Of course, we haven't seen pictures of the 1190, so maybe you are right. But I wouldn't bet on it. | ||
| Buell101 |
I'm sure it will work with but will need help, I believe getting too hot is the issue.. my concern is future part availability but that was before EBR.. http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/158 664/511277.html?1257207132 "However, in our brake tests to failure, when we get the front disk hot enough to glow brightly in Arizona sunlight, we don't get so much heat in the front rim to signficantly effect tire pressure or tire performance. Both magnesium and aluminum have very high specific heats, are very conductive, and the rim and brake mounting posts allow a lot of rapidly spinning area for cooling. We have been aggressively working on ZTL3 for Superbike racing; brake energy goes up with the square of speed, so we needed something more to handle 190mph Superbike speeds." | ||
| Blake |
Ignore the trolls. | ||
| Ebear |
The first image is one I took at Mid-Ohio last year at the Debut of the Erik Buell Superbike.The second shot was one from New Jersey when Cory raced the Superbike for Erik.  | ||
| Ebear |
Heres a few more of the Superbike......      | ||
| Buell101 |
If I'm a troll then I'm in the right forum, under the bridge hidden from the outside world where the ZTL2 is most brillent braking system known to the motorcycle world, and it's proven, Buell won the Championship.. and that's all we see under the bridge | ||
| Fuzzz |
I'd like to see pictures of the 1190, details of internal parts, naked pics with no fairings, and finished ready to ride.... | ||
| Firstbuell |
oh, Jeez, could we please STOP all the crap with this ZTL brake discussion? If you're an actual, licensed racer [or experienced pit crew], then please post up otherwise, if you're yet another armchair tech who reads mags or [worse] the intrawebs, then please STFU !! all this ZTL BS will be sorted out by June, if not earlier, out on the racetrack zip it!! | ||
| Paint_shaker |
I have ridden bikes with both a ZTL1 and a ZTL2 on the race track. Both systems worked great with no issues. I even managed to win 2 regional class championships with the ZTL1 (with race pads). Of course superbike speeds are a tad faster than I am running, but I still believe the ZTL2 can get the job done. | ||
| Liquorwhere |
The ZTL system held up just fine on the 1125RR's in AMA American Superbike, 101. Of course they were only what 165HP? Now 185HP will do them in, right? Has that been verified yet? Meaning the 185hp is that crank on the 1190 or at the wheel? Just curious if the sheets have been posted and I missed them. In fact has anyone been able to see a dyno sheet on the RR? 165hp at the wheel would seem very reasonable for that bike, and just wondering how reasonable it would be to make my 1125R have that same number or near. | ||
| Duggram |
On multiple pages on the EBR Web site there are references to the 1190 with 185 RWHP. | ||
| Strongbad |
185 is dynojet power at the wheel with Sunoco 260GTX fuel (AMA spec fuel). | ||
| Smoke |
CONGRATULATIONS ON THE SALE EBR!!!!! the new beginning!!  tim | ||
| Liquorwhere |
185 is dynojet power at the wheel with Sunoco 260GTX fuel (AMA spec fuel). That's very cool, when do you think the charts will be posted on all the models on EBR? Anyone have an idea? I am thinking, of course for my bike, pump gas so that is what I am looking for, kits to make power for street riding and for pump gas. Maybe because it is a dedicated racing site he won't be doing those types of kits. Who knows?????? | ||
| Court |
>>>Has that been verified yet? Yes. | ||
| Slaughter |
I'd be willing to bet that those who are seriously approaching EBR about racing the machines already know about them. The pundits with no intention of buying can snivel, piss, moan and whine about it all they want. | ||
| Dsmcg |
"Why not prove it then" What would be your definition of proof? DSMcG | ||
| Court |
Prove what? The folks buying the bikes seem thrilled. Why in the world waste time in an Internet pissing match? See if you can find one manufacturer of RACE ONLY bikes who "proves" HP on public internet sites. If you order a bike, you will .... Just as the folks who have already purchased..... Get precisely what you want. Companies may make power representations but the "proof on the Internet" is a fool's errand. | ||
| Firstbuell |
fellas, here's a personal repost - it's a plea to desist - please substitute "190 HP" for "ZTL brake" ".....oh, Jeez, could we please STOP all the crap with this ZTL brake discussion? If you're an actual, licensed racer [or experienced pit crew], then please post up otherwise, if you're yet another armchair tech who reads mags or [worse] the intrawebs, then please STFU !! all this ZTL BS will be sorted out by June [if not byDaytona] out on the racetrack zip it!! ....." I'm not done yet - careful inspection of that online catalog for the damnable Buell factory auction [aarggh!!] revealed a 2nd surprise factory prototype - this 1990s, Iron Butt-rigged Blast! mule  | ||
| Liquorwhere |
Firstbuell, Why would we have to zip it when asking questions? Is this not a Buell enthusiasts site? A place to ask questions so that those of us that wish to spend some money on our bikes get what we want instead of something we don't want? When Slaughter, who I know races, posts up an answer to my questions I take heed, there are others as well I am just using that as an example, so why would anyone have to zip it? It's a discussion area, we are discussing. To further the point, many companies, not all will post dyno runs and give the conditions of that run. Type of exhaust, ecm, temp and humidity, therefore someone looking for a certain number can look at those sheets, compare the types of combinations they are looking for and then purchase the product. I have an ecm download from a company that we cannot name here, wish I would've gotten the powercommander just for the ease but didn't know Powercommander made one for the 1125. I have an HMF pipe, and K&N Filter, I would like to do some cam work to the bike and see what kind of reliable horsepower and torque I can achieve to make my riding experience the best it can be. End of story, there is no ulterior motive, I have spent a small sum in the last month, maybe $800 to acquire said parts and install, I have more budgeted and want to know more. EBR is sort of info low right now, so I ask here. So there ya go. | ||
| Dipstick |
Well said Court. Go EBR!!!!!!!!! | ||
| Court |
>>>If the claim can be supported there's no reason not to prove it. It's really that simple. It really is and to that end I have written Ducati Corse and pointed this out. They simply can't go making these claims without offering proof to everyone on the internet.
Although I doubt I will hear from them I suspect that their thinking is the same mine would be that all the folks who purchase the bikes have everything necessary to support the fitness for purpose of the bike. The lack of "proof" on BadWeb hasn't seemed to have deter sales of the Erik Buell Racing motorcycles. By the way . . . I'm also thinking about asking Mercedes-Benz to PROVE the performance and handling of the new E series Cabriolet. It's set to be released in April and still no proof on the internet. What the heck is this world coming to? |
