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Sugarmcguinnmsncom
| Posted on Monday, January 13, 2014 - 08:57 pm: |
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Hey Fellow Uly-ites, I was getting ready to install my 2-Autoswitches and... It occurred to me... The most popular wire-up is to the "flash-to-pass" button, by way of a tap of the high-bean wire. Wouldn't it stand to reason, that flipping on the high-beams would also activate the switch? Or have I missed something in my translation of how this little gadget works? I decided to hold off pugging in the soldering iron... Any guidance on this would be greatly appreciated... Thanks Sugar McGuinn Seattle, WA |
Panhead_dan
| Posted on Monday, January 13, 2014 - 09:35 pm: |
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Yes, tapping into the high beam wire itself will get the job done using either switch. If you are connecting at the switch rather than tapping the wire, it will work with the hi-lo switch only. Now that I think about it, I'm not sure. It might still work with either switch. Please let us know. |
Panhead_dan
| Posted on Monday, January 13, 2014 - 09:39 pm: |
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Yup. Just went out and tried mine. Hitting hi twice activates the switch whether you use the hi-lo switch or the flash to pass. First time I ever used the hi-lo to activate it! |
Sugarmcguinnmsncom
| Posted on Monday, January 13, 2014 - 09:57 pm: |
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I should have clarified... I am hoping the the switch(es) "won't" be activated by flipping (not tapping) the high-beans on everytime I need the high-beams |
Reepicheep
| Posted on Monday, January 13, 2014 - 10:43 pm: |
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If they didn't build one that works that way, it would be pretty easy to make one that would. |
Teeps
| Posted on Tuesday, January 14, 2014 - 11:27 am: |
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Ignorance here; what is an auto switch and/or what does it connect? |
Reepicheep
| Posted on Tuesday, January 14, 2014 - 12:20 pm: |
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I've not dug into them deeply, but this is what I thought about building (that is likely exactly what the autoswitch does)... It would be a voltage sensor that you hook to something like a high beam line that is already switched. When it sees 2 pulses within a 1.5 second period, it toggles another seperate voltage feed on or off. So if you want to control heated grips without putting in another switch, you do this, and two "flash to pass" hits will turn the heated gear on if it is off, or off if it is on. You could add on another looking for 3 pulses, and another looking for 4, etc, though there would hit a point where it gets silly. |
Xbimmer
| Posted on Tuesday, January 14, 2014 - 12:38 pm: |
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I disconnected my Autoswitch from my Hellas since using it to turn them off involved flashing my high beam which had an adverse effect on some of the short tempered fool drivers that seem to breed in droves around here... Might use it for Reepicheep's idea or something. |
Uly_man
| Posted on Tuesday, January 14, 2014 - 01:23 pm: |
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In the US what is indicated by flashing your HIGH beam? |
Sugarmcguinnmsncom
| Posted on Tuesday, January 14, 2014 - 01:36 pm: |
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Uly Man, If you are behind someone, flashing means you want the other car to let you pass "flash-to-pass" (possibly they are going too slow). If you flash an oncoming car, this typically indicates that "they" have their high-beams on and are blinding you. |
Verdad
| Posted on Tuesday, January 14, 2014 - 01:46 pm: |
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Or,... Someone is telling oncoming drivers they are about to come upon a member of law enforcement. Although, I think that's illegal here in California. |
Motorbike
| Posted on Tuesday, January 14, 2014 - 03:12 pm: |
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Around here if you flash your high beams at a slow driver ahead, it usually triggers an instance of road rage. Just pisses people off. Most people (except truck drivers) are too stupid to know what flash to pass means. I never use that switch on my XT. |
Reepicheep
| Posted on Tuesday, January 14, 2014 - 04:32 pm: |
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Maybe better to run it off the brake light. If they are close enough to be bothered by a quick flash of the brake light, they needed to be flashed anyway. And you could safely flash the brake light using the rear brake lever just about any time anyway... a light tap lights it up without any significant impact on the bike. |
Sugarmcguinnmsncom
| Posted on Tuesday, January 14, 2014 - 07:42 pm: |
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I just went for it. Here is the conclusion. The switch will not actuate when you flip the high-beams on for normal operation. This is good. The reason is that in order for the switch to operate, the signal must be be "actuated" , and then "broken". So just flipping the switch "on", and leaving it on, doesn't complete the sequence. Does that make sense? |
Reepicheep
| Posted on Tuesday, January 14, 2014 - 08:02 pm: |
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Makes perfect sense, they are looking for a square wave with a particular period... so the on transition, on period, then off transition must all happen within a particular window. But it won't trigger with the high beams on either, you will need to turn the high beams off, then do the flip on and off, then turn the high beams on again. Which takes us back to the "person in front of you is now confused or angry" situation. It would work fine for a garage door opener though. Here is another elegant option... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C-Bxifv2Pk
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Uly_man
| Posted on Friday, January 17, 2014 - 12:16 pm: |
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I would think that using a switch, like the high beam flash, to activate another device may give "mixed signals" to other road users. |
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