G oog le BadWeB | Login/out | Topics | Search | Custodians | Register | Edit Profile


Buell Forum » Big, Bad & Dirty (Buell XB12X Ulysses Adventure Board) » BB&D Archives » Archive through February 25, 2013 » Won't Start - 24 degrees outside.. « Previous Next »

Author Message
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Jacksdaddync
Posted on Friday, January 25, 2013 - 02:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

24 degrees outside today, and mine was just serviced and it want start either...What gives..
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Hughlysses
Posted on Friday, January 25, 2013 - 04:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The 08-up Uly has a built-in owner protection circuit. It's trying to prevent you from getting frostbite.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Thumpthump
Posted on Friday, January 25, 2013 - 04:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The 20w-50 oil is now the consistency of peanut butter and the lack of the motors cooperation to run is an attempt by the motor to preserve itself due to lack of lubrication.

These Buells are pretty smart bikes.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Froggy
Posted on Friday, January 25, 2013 - 05:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yea between the oil being thicker and the battery not having as many cranking amps in the cold, you will have a harder time starting it. You may need to jump it off a car battery to give it the extra umph.

While below freezing temperatures are hell on any battery, it may be a sign that you are due for a battery soon.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Dennis_c
Posted on Friday, January 25, 2013 - 05:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Your Buell is smarter than you. It knows better than go outside when its 24 degrees .
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Crusty
Posted on Friday, January 25, 2013 - 07:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine always started in the cold, even when I did my New Years day ride in 2008 and it was 8°F. If yours won't start, then something is wrong. Try cracking the throttle just a little while cranking; sometimes I had to do that to get it to run.
24°F isn't that cold. Even my old Shovelhead would start until the temps dropped below zero (though it liked to foul spark plugs).
Once it starts, let it warm up a bit, and be really light on the throttle until it's good and warm. It's real easy to blow out a head gasket when the engine is cold and parts haven't expanded.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Ourdee
Posted on Friday, January 25, 2013 - 09:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Should start in single digits. Battery may be low.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Etennuly
Posted on Friday, January 25, 2013 - 10:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What they said .....and make sure the battery terminals are tight.

Mine fired up yesterday after sitting for three weeks since the last fire up. It was 28F degrees. Now I must say it was not particularly happy on initial crank up. It has Rotella 15-40 in it.

I did a little 30 mile chiller of a jaunt on the Uly. With my BAW and electric gear I was actually warmer than driving my car the same distance. It's heater core has crapped out. I have not had time to revisit that problem lately, but damn! It is like sitting in a walk in freezer!

If I need to fire my Uly up at below 20F I will give it a half hour or so with an electric heater under the engine and oil tank just to make it easier on things.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Thejosh
Posted on Friday, January 25, 2013 - 11:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The oil has turned into Molasses, and the battery is in hybernation mode. Put a trickle charge on it and try to crank it up!
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Zac4mac
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My 09 Uly has the original battery.
When it's below freezing, I push the start button for one rev only, wait for the fuel to re-prime and hit it again.
Starts every time.
That first rev is very slow, turns normally after that.

Z
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Uly_man
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 02:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Once it starts, let it warm up a bit, and be really light on the throttle until it's good and warm. It's real easy to blow out a head gasket when the engine is cold and parts haven't expanded." A good tip for those not knowing about air cooled engines.

I have been looking into this battery/charging/starting thing and will put it in a new post.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Henshao
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 07:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Battery ain't what it used to be.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Jacksdaddync
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 10:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It was the Battery, can't believe the Dealership stated that their Heated Garages was the reason, and the didn't have a problem with the Bike's Battery when it was in their care..wtf.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Ratbuell
Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2013 - 12:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As stated above, batteries lose cranking amps when they are cold (i.e. less power to start a motorcycle).

I bet if your bike was kept in the living room overnight and it warmed up, it would also start right up.

Ever wonder why most car batteries die when it's cold out and it really sucks to have a dead battery, as opposed to when you're visiting the beach on a nice sunny warm summer day and wouldn't mind quite so much?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Henshao
Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2013 - 02:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yep, batteries can also freeze. Good f-ing luck if that should ever happen to you. My truck had a frozen battery once and wouldn't even run with it still on the circuit unless I manually fast idled at like 2500 rpms.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Jacksdaddync
Posted on Sunday, February 03, 2013 - 09:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Update, After Charge at Greensboro Harley Davidson, I ordered and received my Battery Tender/charger Jr. and all is well
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Xdigitalx
Posted on Monday, February 04, 2013 - 09:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good deal. I just got a Tender/charger Jr. myself..(had a regular charger) The automatic one takes away the overcharging worries completely. I got my heated vest repaired, heated grips connected and riding mitts all ready to go for a ride and then it snows.


snowbike


My gf always puts her AA and C, D batteries in the fridge door. She says it helps them keep a charge. I think my grandpop did the same thing. I don't believe it a thing except keep them cold.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Tootal
Posted on Monday, February 04, 2013 - 01:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm afraid they're right. I've read some professional tips from motorcycle mags that say if you're storing the bike for the Winter you should remove it from the bike, trickle charge it till full, then put it in the fridge for the Winter. Pull it out in the Spring and charge it full again and put it back in the bike. Batteries will discharge slower at lower temps.
« Previous Next »

Add Your Message Here
Post:
Bold text Italics Underline Create a hyperlink Insert a clipart image

Username: Posting Information:
This is a private posting area. Only registered users and custodians may post messages here.
Password:
Options: Post as "Anonymous" (Valid reason required. Abusers will be exposed. If unsure, ask.)
Enable HTML code in message
Automatically activate URLs in message
Action:

Topics | Last Day | Tree View | Search | User List | Help/Instructions | Rules | Program Credits Administration