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Pontlee77
Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2013 - 09:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A friend had a split in his belt so it needs to be changed, i had a new spare one, so my question is: i seem to remember there was a comment about a newer better belt, was that true or was it just a change of part number?

Thanks.
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Terrible1one3
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 06:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What I heard a while ago when getting a replacement belt was tough is the Goodyear was going to come out with a belt specifically for the Uly.

Not sure that ever happened, it was a couple years ago, right after Buell closed and everyone freaked about parts.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, January 28, 2013 - 11:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The last digit of the part number is a letter. The final sequence is ".AK_".

.AKB is first revision.
.AKC, after that.
Most recent revision is .AKF (I'm pretty sure).
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Pontlee77
Posted on Monday, January 28, 2013 - 11:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

for the uly 2009 and 2010 the belt is .AAH

AKF is superseded.
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, January 28, 2013 - 11:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

AKF is superseded.




That ain't true, there is no .1AKH belt.
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Pontlee77
Posted on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 07:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I didn't say AKH, I said AAH, is where I get stuff told me.
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 09:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good luck getting that AAH belt to fit unless you have a Firebolt or short wheelbase Lightning.
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Pontlee77
Posted on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Froggy this is what the dealer wrote, and so far with many orders have never had any issue:

Actually, 2006 to 2008 Ulysses use belt # G0500.1AKF,(superseded),
and 2009 and 2010 Ulysses use belt # G0500.1AAH. What the difference is
between them I do not know.
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The 1AAx series of belts are for 52" Wheelbase 04+ Firebolts and Lightnings, 1AKx is for Ulysses and Lightnings with the longer 54.x" wheelbase, 1AMx is for the 1125R, 1ATx is for 1125CR.

The info your dealer is wrong, .1AKF is the most current belt that fits. Punch those part numbers into a search engine, you will see 1AAH come up as a Lightning belt and 1AKF come up as a Ulysses.

Here is an old classifieds post, someone bought .1AAH for his Ulysses, it didn't fit so he sold it.
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/21/ 667911.html?1329514946
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Buellerxt
Posted on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 01:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I spoke with the manufacturer about a year ago and the 'F' belt is the current belt, according to the guy who tests them, oversees the manufacturing of the belts, etc. He also said that the 'E' belt is the same as the 'F'. They switched to 'F', according to him, after a certain number of the 'E' belts were sold because they wanted a smaller set of belts to monitor/track. He also made it very clear that the 'E' and 'F' belts were a VERY BIG improvement over earlier belts. : )
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Motorbike
Posted on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I still would like to know if we are going to be out of luck when the last belt that H-D has in stock gets sold. It's not like you can go to your local hardware store and adapt something else to work. I really doubt that any manufacturer will make a belt for our Ulys now that Buells are no longer made.....

I am tempted to buy a new belt now, just in case I ever need it. I have always had spare parts on hand for most every toy that I've ever owned and guess what? I've never had to use a single one of them.
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Pontlee77
Posted on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for all the input, i sent an email to the dealer to sort this out, thanks for all the help you give.
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Arry
Posted on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 04:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The "buell" belt is made by Goodyear. I imagine they will make them as long as there is enough demand. I, also, remember an alternate belt that was mentioned (on this forum?), but don't remember the manufacturer or supplier.
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Brother_in_buells
Posted on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 05:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/697828.html?1352309641

http://www.fptgroup.com/fenner.asp?title=Synchrono us-Belts&pageid=2651

http://eriks-at.nl/nl/producten-en-diensten/mechan ische-aandrijftechniek/tandriemen-rubber/tandriem- rubber-standaard/tandriem-rubber-htd-/-zwaar/infop agina-fenner-htd/
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Sharkguy
Posted on Wednesday, January 30, 2013 - 09:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There is a thread over on ADV about someone running the fenner belt on their Uly here:
http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?p=200295 04&highlight=belt#post20029504
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Uly_man
Posted on Thursday, January 31, 2013 - 01:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The AKF belt IS the last version for the Uly. It should NOT be a problem to replace your belt in the years to come as HD must supply parts for a certain period. What is a good idea however is to have a spare belt to hand, so you can fit it without needing to wait for one from HD, because you WILL need one sooner or later.
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Pontlee77
Posted on Thursday, January 31, 2013 - 02:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That I know, 2 ulys i know so far have broken the belt one with 63.000 kilometers and the other with 45.000 kilometers, the curios is the 45k one it split in half not snapped off, my bike is 55k and has had small crack on the outer side for ages they don't get worse, but i like to have always spares and not need to wait for them, because if i have to buy here in Spain prices are really crazy some times up to 3 times the price i get from the US Dealer.
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Uly_man
Posted on Thursday, January 31, 2013 - 02:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Have you tried HD Jersey. Euro cool and no VAT.
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Arcticktm
Posted on Friday, February 01, 2013 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Uly-Man,
Be careful what you think is guaranteed to us by HD.
I am guessing your belief that HD must offer parts is based on the often cited Magnuson-Moss Act of 1975 in the US.
Usually, people claim this requires OEM to provide parts for a period of time, say 5, 10 or 15 years.
I do not believe that is true.
What this law requires is that an OEM must off parts for as long as they offer a warranty or factory service contract.
HD only needs to legally offer parts until the last Buell goes out of factory warranty.
Therefore, their obligation is pretty much over this year.
If anyone thinks otherwise, please provide your info source, as I would really like to know if I am mistaken.
I've worked for OEM's before, and the only reason we offered parts for some older models was strictly for customer satisfaction and dealer support. Not for legal reasons. At least that was my belief.
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Motorbike
Posted on Friday, February 01, 2013 - 01:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

H-D has to supply parts for 7 years after production ended and that's true because I read it on the internet... just kidding.

I believe the sooner H-D can wash their hands of ever having anything to do with Buell, the happier they will be.
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Uly_man
Posted on Friday, February 01, 2013 - 07:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Uly-Man. Be careful what you think is guaranteed to us by HD."

I do not know about the USA but in the UK makers must supply OEM parts for 10 years after the final production run of any car or bike. Its law. So they will still have to make them in which case if you can not get them in the US you could just ship them in from the UK. I have run some VERY old bikes and not had a problem. Only with price and main parts like frames and plastics can cost a small fortune.

I am not worried on keeping the Buell on the road for many years to come. There is always a way around any problem even though it may not be cheap.
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Arcticktm
Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 01:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Certainly I was speaking only of US law (or lack thereof).
A lot of folks have mis-represented the statute I spoke of earlier when HD killed Buell.
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05mxdiesel
Posted on Thursday, February 14, 2013 - 08:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just put a new belt on my uly yesterday from American Sportbike and it had a goodyear emblem on it like somebody else mentioned, first one lasted 26k.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Friday, February 15, 2013 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

05mxdiesel,
My first belt lasted 25K miles. 2nd is still going.
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