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Desertjeff
Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2012 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Was wondering if anyone here has had any experience with the Shinko brand of tires specifically the Ravens. I have read several tire threads on this site and find no mention of anyone using these.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2012 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Use the search function at the top of the page and search "Big, Bad and Dirty" for Shinko Raven. There are LOTS of threads on these tires.
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Buellhusker
Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2012 - 10:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In a word they SUCK
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2012 - 11:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I heard someone on here call those tires "ditch finders"
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Desertjeff
Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2012 - 12:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow I guess being specific when searching really pays off. A Lot of info on the Shinko's. I really dont like buying tires so much info and then to be stuck with them for a few months or a year.
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Desertjeff
Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2012 - 12:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow I guess being specific when searching really pays off. A Lot of info on the Shinko's. I really dont like buying tires so much info and then to be stuck with them for a few months or a year.
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Jessemc
Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2012 - 05:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There's nothing wrong with the Shinko 009, internet bashing notwithstanding. I've used a couple of sets and if you do a search on here you should be able to find a post I did.

That said, buy what will make *you* confident.

Jesse
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Murf2
Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2012 - 06:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have one on the rear right now. No problems, Cheap.

Murf
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Teeps
Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2012 - 01:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Desertjeff Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2012 -

Was wondering if anyone here has had any experience with the Shinko brand of tires specifically the Ravens.


I had a set of Raven 009's.
Wet and dry grip was good enough for me.
Got just short of 10k miles, with plenty of tread left in the center of the tires. Cornering tread, not so much...
Good tires for budget minded, casual riders; however... I would not recommend going "riki racer" on them

Your mileage may vary.

Front after 9600 miles




Rear after 9600 miles


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D_adams
Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2012 - 02:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have (unfortunately) a shinko tire on the front of my XB. It was on the bike when I bought it, had one on the rear as well and it was totally smooth so it got replaced with a used Bridgestone BT-016 temporarily. Both will be replaced next spring when I start riding it. It's probably one of the crappiest tires I think I've ever run across yet, unless you're after a tire that doesn't stick worth a darn on even a mildly damp road.
Having the front end wash out isn't fun in my book, guess I got lucky that I didn't actually go down.
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Uly_man
Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2012 - 02:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Shinko Tires - Nope not any idea but. Tire choice is about four things - The bike, style of riding, conditions and a mix of all of that. Good rubber is never cheap and more so with bikes. The Uly has the best frame and suspension I have ever come across and gives sports bike handling even on Scorps. Me 110 mph at 45 degrees over on the highway today and still solid as a rock.
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Nillaice
Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2012 - 08:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i read on the internet that they some body knew a guy who had them and that they suck. ... ... so, then i bought a set anyways, and i feel that they are just "not great"
shinko's are good for the money, but you can do better at a cyclegear sale.

i'm finding that the rear tire does not hold it's pointy profile well, so that makes turn-in require effort. i've had no traction issues.
mine were a fresh set that i spooned on, not old & hard and did not come with the bike.

what you spend your money on is not up to any of us to make the final decision for you. my advice: wait for a tire sale, if you can
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D_adams
Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2012 - 08:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was going to get 2 sets of tires for the bikes, but I kinda hate letting them just sit for a couple of months and not use them while it's too cold/wintery to ride.
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Tastroman
Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2012 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For my non peg/knee dragging self they work just fine. I'll be replacing my current set with another.
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Dean
Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2012 - 10:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ive got em on my 08X & have no complaints - my riding is not very aggressive these days & really timid when wet - can u b an old tart at 53?
dean
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Fung
Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2012 - 09:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a set of 009 on my 08 xt. They have been just fine. 4000+ miles so far. Think I paid $200 shipped to my door.
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Marksm
Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2012 - 01:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have an Angel on the front and an 009 on the rear. It's coming up on 10K and still has a little life left. I ride 84 miles a day and they are fine for commuting.
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Uly_man
Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2012 - 02:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Many do not ride a bike to its full use and so there is no point in spending extra on the rubber.

One of the great things about a Uly, and I love so much, is how well it can deal with varied ride styles, conditions and rubber and still handle better than bikes that cost half as much again to buy. They also, and I do not now how, get close to twice the miles on a tire and not square off enough to affect the handling. I have 6k on my Scorps now and they may do 8k. The rubber on all of the bikes I have ever had were VERY shot at 5k. I have a set of 2CTs here waiting to be fitted but the Scorps just keep going and going.
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Df3112
Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2012 - 06:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

HAD them, Gone now.......... for good
Bike wandered all over the road......
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Baybueller
Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2012 - 09:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dean, you probably can but i am guessing you ment old fart.
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Djohnk
Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2012 - 09:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have them on my Uly right now. They are OK, I used them on some twisties by San Antonio, TX and they were fine. I don't touch the foot pegs when I ride, but I was confident around curves. They also feel OK on wet pavement. My opinion is that they are not a bad tire for the price and the miles they last. If you are on a tight budget go for it. My back tire does look like it has squared off as it has worn.

That said, I probably won't purchase them again (at least next time I need tires). I don't know why, I guess I just want to try a high priced tire like the Michelen PR3's to see for myself if there is a difference thats worth spending $100-$150 more for a set.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2012 - 10:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I commute a lot, so cheap tires are tempting.

As I saw the flash of silver of a Corolla flashing in front of me from a blind slot in stopped traffic, and executed a perfect stoppie over 20 feet, I was REALLY happy I had premium tires on the front of my Uly.

The amount of energy that was dissipated to rotate a Buell Ulysses and a 250 pound fat guy through 90 degrees over 20 feet was an amount of energy I was REALLY happy was not dissipated in my pelvis and spinal column. A cracked pelvis was enough, I'm glad it wasn't an open book break or worse.

I bought PR II's when those Pirelli's wore out.
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Dean
Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2012 - 11:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Used to be a bit of a tart ...
Dean : )
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2012 - 12:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have had two sets of the Ravens and would buy them again. Unfortunately, the tire deals aren't as good on Shinkos as they used to be.

I'd like to try a set of the 011 Verge tires if I find a deal on them.

Yokohama sold their motorcycle tire company to a Korean company. Previous to their exit from the motorcycle tire business, Yokohama used to be a race tire provider.

These are not Tomahawks.

These are single compound tires, though. There are significant benefits to multi-compound tires.

That said, the Shinkos I used seemed to heat up well and had good wet traction.

I'd give them a try.
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Teeps
Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2012 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ft_bstrd Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2012 -

I have had two sets of the Ravens and would buy them again. Unfortunately,
the tire deals aren't as good on Shinkos as they used to be.

+1 to that, the set I bought was less than $200 to my door.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, October 15, 2012 - 08:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got mine for $140 delivered.


With the off season coming, I'm hoping the good tire deals will re-emerge.
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Teeps
Posted on Tuesday, October 16, 2012 - 10:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ft_bstrd Posted on Monday, October 15, 2012 -

I got mine for $140 delivered.


Where?
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Tuesday, October 16, 2012 - 04:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ironpony.com has them for $190 delivered.

I originally got mine from Motosport.

Here is another killer deal:

http://www.motosport.com/motorcycle/CONTINENTAL-MO TION-TIRE-COMBO

$149 delivered!



Might pick up another set of these. Great tires for the price!!!!!!

(Message edited by ft bstrd on October 16, 2012)
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7873jake
Posted on Tuesday, October 16, 2012 - 04:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would have to second the Contis as a decent deal. I've had mine for nearly a year and after 3-3500 miles, ive been happy with the handling and wear.
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Jessemc
Posted on Tuesday, October 16, 2012 - 06:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That is a good price on the Conti Motions. But, you won't get as many miles out of them as you will from other sport-touring tires. The carcass is pretty thin, after you hit the wear bars you'll be seeing cords in no time.

For comparison purposes, rear Conti Motion was toast at just over 2900 miles compared to 3400 miles on the Dunlop D616 - same type of riding, same type of roads.
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