| Author | Message | ||
     Buelldualsport |
Wire it directly to the battery or into the loom at a conveint place? Thanks | ||
| Hughlysses |
You want the meter to switch off when you turn the bike off so don't wire it directly to the battery. A good place is the positive wire to the power outlet on the dash. | ||
| Teeps |
Hughlysses Posted on Saturday, June 23, 2012 A good place is the positive wire to the power outlet on the dash. That's where I connected led charging indicator to my Uly. | ||
| Buelldualsport |
Makes sense. Thanks | ||
| Pontlee77 |
I did the same | ||
| Motorfish |
This is what I used.http://signaldynamics.com/index.php?page=shop.prod uct_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=56&cate gory_id=14&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=77 Installed the LED in the dash, so it looks stock. I tapped it off the accessory plug also, but after reading about it here, I found out that it is controlled by the ECM and it shuts it down if the voltage drops too low, as a "survival" tactic. I guess it does that so the bike will run to get you home. I found all this info right here, so if you do a search, you`ll find it all. More great info here at this great site. | ||
| Ratbuell |
Don't use the accessory outlet - the ECM turns that outlet OFF when V drops below the "danger, Will Robinson" threshold (when you need a meter the most). I tapped into my gauge backlight wires. The gauges are always lit when the bike is running, the meter is a low draw so it won't hurt anything, and if a wire gets nicked...I lose dash lights until I can get it fixed. No big deal. | ||
| Skifastbadly |
Motor, I have that same gizmo and it sounds like I installed it the same way. I love looking down at the dash and seeing that thing glowing green. It seems to me that if the ECM cuts off the power when the power drops, you'll have sufficient notice because it'll be yellow then red before that. | ||
| Motorfish |
That is a good spot to power it from, Rat. Although, if the ECM shuts off the V meter, wouldn`t that tell you there is a problem, and to look into it? I`m not trying to be a wise guy, Rat, just looking for a reason not to have to change the V source. (lazy) | ||
| Djohnk |
I agree. I have the signal dynamics led also (I really like the thing - gives good information without taking up much space). When my stator went bad recently, it went gradually. I would have the bike on the trickle charger over night. In the morning it would start out green, go yellow, then the gauge would just quit working. I knew what was going on - so no big deal. I do think that next time I'm tinkering behind the flyscreen I will take Ratbuell's advice -- and it tie into the dash lights ... it would be nice for the gauge to work properly. | ||
| Dirt |
Don't use the accessory outlet - the ECM turns that outlet OFF when V drops below the "danger, Will Robinson" threshold Simply not true, at least for the 06 & 07 model years. There were changes made to the wiring system for 08 and above, so I have no knowledge on those years. On this forum when someone asks a question the first response is usually "buy a factory service manual". Well, that does you no good unless you actually read it. The wiring diagram in the 07 (and I'm sure the same for 06) manual clearly shows that the power outlet on the dash is connected through a fuse directly to the battery. It is not connected to the ECM in any way shape or form. It's right there in black and white, no/no electrical connection to the ECM. But hey, if I'm wrong, please show me the light. Motorfish - If you have an 06 or 07, there is no issue with tapping power from the dash outlet as Hughlysses stated. It's right there in the manual, one just needs to open it up and look. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Hook it to the horn lead. I'm not honking, I'm taking readings!  | ||
| Ratbuell |
I may be mistaken, I'll have to go through my diagrams better. I could swear my GPS (wired to the aux outlet plug) went out the night my 77 failed (well...didn't go "out", but got the "hit any button to run on battery power" message when power was "disconnected"). I do know later models have the safety feature. The way I figure, why take the chance? Sure, you can see it go orange then red before the outlet switches off...and I guess with the three-color display it won't much matter...but I run the Kuryakyn gauge which actually shows numbers for V levels, down to 8v which is where the ECM would shut off completely and not be able to run the engine. I've watched my CR's on-board gauge, and it shut off the outlet at 11.7 when my stator quit. That's 3.7 very important volts, in my mind, and could be the difference between having the bike shut of in a parking lot or gas station (since you can track it, you can plan an exit)...or just up and dying on the side of the road because the gauge/light simply turned off "a little while ago" and you don't know how much juice you have left. I know for a fact DDFI-III shuts off the outlet; I thought ALL the Ulysses had that feature, but could be wrong. Regardless...why ignore the feature, instead of using it to your advantage? | ||
| Buelldualsport |
Thanks all for the input. We purchased a digital readout so that there was no guessing at the voltage. Thanks Cheers and ride safe | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
"I'm not honking, I'm taking readings!" BEEP! 12.5V BEEP! 12.5V BEEP! 12.6V LOL | ||
| Skifastbadly |
For those of you with the SD LED, since we're on the subject, when does is show red or yellow. I noticed that when my bike is up to operating temperature, it'll often show yellow or sometimes even red ad idle, if I have my heated grips and GPS on. Not that the GPS draws much. As soon as I take off, back to green. Normal? | ||
| Motorfish |
Ski, read it off of here: http://signaldynamics.com/index.php?page=shop.prod uct_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=56&cate gory_id=14&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=77&vmcchk= 1&Itemid=77 Dirt, see I told ya I was lazy, I didn`t look at the SM, just went by what I read here. So that is good for me, since I have an `06. But really, Rat is right, I would of changed it eventually, really I would of. | ||
| Ourdee |
I run the flashing/solid multi color led and an analog meter for voltage. The LED is a kind of peace of mind thing. The analog can be disturbing if you over annalize it. I like seeing 14.2. You can see the fluctuation of the VR working. | ||
| Djohnk |
@Skifastbadly -- My SD LED only showed yellow or red at idle when my stator was getting weak. I replaced my stator and with both my 35 watt HIDS and the fan on warmed up at idle I get steady green. Its been awhile since I used the heated grips, but if I remember correctly the light stayed green also (before the stator problems). @Dirt -- I have a '07 ULY with the SD LED wired to the front cigarette lighter. I wonder why it quit working when my stator went out? I guess the voltage was so low it was below its operating requirements. Anyhow, thanks for straightening me out (now I don't have to rewire it). I had also read somewhere on this forum (not on the wiring diagram) that the accessories shut down with low voltage. |
