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Clang
Posted on Sunday, June 10, 2012 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I picked up one of Jason's lowering kits for the Uly last year, and finally had a chance to install it. It works great, lowers the back of the bike about an inch and has no detrimental effect on road handling.

About the only thing negative I can say is that I used some ratcheting straps that marked up my spring when I was compressing it. The ratchets were kind of large and rubbed against the spring. Real Spring compressors would have come in very handy.

If your bike is a wee bit too tall, I recommend one of these lowering kits.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Monday, June 11, 2012 - 06:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've been wanting to make a lowering collar myself.
I have access to mill/lathe.
The beast likes to nap a lot, I think lowering it would help nip the narcolepsy.

What about your sidestand?

Z
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Clang
Posted on Monday, June 11, 2012 - 10:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sidestand is fine - no need to mod.

I think the best reason for lowering is getting on and off the bike. It makes a significant difference when you throw your leg over it.
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Jasonb
Posted on Monday, June 11, 2012 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the review and the plug! I like it best for stopping at lights and etc. I was also able to run my preload up when I ride two up and able to touch when I stop. With little to no preload it dipped and dived over bumps.

As far as the ratchet straps, I can see where that may happen. I used smaller ones. They are actually the ones from shipping Buells. I bought them off another BadWed member.

I have 6 left, and two of those are on the hopefully sold list.

Jason

(Message edited by Jasonb on June 11, 2012)
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Buelldualsport
Posted on Sunday, June 24, 2012 - 02:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just received one of Jason's collars.

Quality workman ship.

Can the collar be installed with the shock on the bike?

Too busy Lazy guy would like to know?

Cheers all
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Eaglerider
Posted on Monday, June 25, 2012 - 04:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bought two and installed one. Grat product.
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Clang
Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2012 - 06:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't think it can be installed while the shock is still on the bike - unless you have some way to compress and hold the spring. I just did not have enough room.
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Buelldualsport
Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2012 - 07:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Clang

Looks that way to us also.

Thanks for another set of eyes and opinion.

Hopefully the heat will cooperate and we can get the shock off and Jason's "kit" installed.

Cheers all
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2012 - 08:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

how much for one? I may like to give one a try.

Medina, Ohio... that is just a hop, skip away


Thanks!
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Jasonb
Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2012 - 09:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wolf...send me a PM. If your close, maybe we can meet up.

I have one of mine left and one from a certain company in the EU that I used for reference. When these are gone, i'm not making any more.
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Xbkris
Posted on Tuesday, July 03, 2012 - 07:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not for sure yet how to check my pms so i figured I'd post here. Im intersted if you still have one. I have a 06 xb12x. Im 5'11 and would love for it to be a little shorter. Please email me at krismangrum@att with the payment instructions if you still have one. Thanks, Kris
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Bossies1
Posted on Tuesday, July 03, 2012 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My brother in law installed his on his x and loves it! He's also getting the fork kit that lowers the front an inch as well. Now to put mine on my xt...
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Buelldualsport
Posted on Tuesday, July 03, 2012 - 03:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

May we request a bi more information on the fork lowering kit?

Why not just slide the fork up in the triple clamps? Just curious?
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Bossies1
Posted on Tuesday, July 03, 2012 - 03:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think his was very close to the bars already. The lowering kit is Hyperpro from http://www.epmperf.com/lowering-links.htm - They offered to sell him just the front end kit. I threw a leg over with just the collar, and could stand with both feet almost flat.
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Xbkris
Posted on Tuesday, July 03, 2012 - 04:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

buelldualsport,

Stupid question, can you lower the front in the manor you describe. New owner (last friday) still got alot to learn.

Thanks
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Buelldualsport
Posted on Tuesday, July 03, 2012 - 05:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Certain can.

Old dirt bike trick.

On the 08 they forks are raised almost an inch, to just below the handle bars.

Loosen the pinch bolts on the bottom triple clamp

Do the same on the top, hold the front brake and bounce the front end.

If should slide upward to just bearly toughing the handle bars.

Retighten all triple clamp bolts.

Ride and enjoy.

Regards
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Jasonb
Posted on Tuesday, July 03, 2012 - 09:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I lowered mine after installing the lowering collar. I bought 1" bar raisers from Al and lowered similar to how described above.

If you decide to do this, understand you are removing the retaining rings that keep the forks from sliding up as a backup to the pinch bolts. You are removing the safety!

How I did mine was on a motorcycle jack. First I installed the raisers. Then I made a mark on the forks with a sharpie or scratch awl. I chose to make it on fork at the top of the upper triple. Then, loosen the upper and lower pinch bolts. You will need to slide the fork down first, remove the retaining ring, then slide up the forks. I measured mine with calipers, but you can do as you chose. It is critical to get them the same or, along with handling issues, you will wear your tire more on one side than the other. Don't forget to torque the pinch bolts to the proper setting.

As an engineer, I need to stress to you that the retaining rings are there for a reason. I don't recommend doing this if you are planning to do wheelies, stoppies, jumps or any other 'not normal' driving. Additionally, on my '06 Uly, with the 1"bar raisers, the top of the forks are about 1/8" from the bars. I check the raised dimension and the bar offset regularly. It has never moved, but I still check it before most rides. I know if something would slip, the forks will hit the bottom of the bars, so a catastrophic failure is lessened. Also, this winter I added small spacers to the dash mount screws to space it out. It was very close/rubbing on the top of the forks. It didn't damage anything, just giving full disclosure.

If anyone needs more info, pm me. I'd rather help than hear someone had an incident that i could have helped minimize. I also could post a pic if people wanted it.
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Buelldualsport
Posted on Tuesday, July 03, 2012 - 09:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Have not been on a dirt bike in years, however the last time we looked they did not utilize the retaining ring on the forks. Maybe that has changed in the past 10 years?

Just a statement, I agree that safety is the most important part of any modification to any motor vehicle.

Each owner is ultimately responsible for his or her own saftey. And the modificiations that are made with by themselves or their Shop of choice.

YRMV

(Message edited by buelldualsport on July 03, 2012)
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