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Blackdog
Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2012 - 02:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I went for a ride yesterday. It was about 40 degrees and I was wearing my Gerbings heated jacket and gloves. My gear was working but not enough to keep me warm. I was using the heated grips also. I've used the jacket only and stayed toasty warm. Am I asking too much from the 460 watt system?
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Dennis_c
Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2012 - 02:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have everthing but the gloves and worked fine
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Blackdog
Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2012 - 02:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I never had this problem until I got the gloves. I'll try this same set up on my 1200GS and report back.
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Uly_man
Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2012 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There is no single experience that can compare to the vast weather conditions/changes or danger that riding a bike can.
It does not matter what gear you have, or what it cost, nothing is perfect for all situations. Its a bike. You will get wet and/or cold at some point and have some sort of fall/accident as well sooner or later. This IS the nature of the beast.
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Uly_man
Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2012 - 03:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ah see the point now. I use HG vented summer race gloves all year round and as long as they do not get wet I have no problem on the Uly even without the heated grips.
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Portero72
Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2012 - 04:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Where do you hook the gear into the bike? I used to have a cigarette style adapter for my vest, and noticed it was much less efficient than plugged directly to the battery, especially w/ the grips on, as I BELIEVE they are wired to the same circuit.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2012 - 04:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I run my grip heaters off the accessory line under the flyscreen, which is also running the GPS and the lighter port. I wired them directly in, but its the same wire that is in the lighter (AFAIK).

It shouldn't be any less efficient. If you are pulling enough current to notice a difference, you should have blown a fuse.

Unless the charging system is overloaded, at which point I *think* that accessory line is cut off by the ECM (some years did, some didn't AFAIK). If thats the case, this is a feature, not a bug, as it is saving you from draining your battery.
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Blackdog
Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2012 - 04:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My heated gear is wired directly to the battery via a fuse. My grips are factory.

My brother has the same set up as me (2007 XT). He mentioned that he has issues running two heated jackets at the same time.
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Skifastbadly
Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2012 - 07:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Heated gloves AND heated grips? Do you have a belt and suspenders? I ride in 40 degree weather all the time with just the grips and I still have to turn them down when I start smelling toasted palm.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2012 - 09:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have an 06 and have used grips and gloves together. Most gloves are back-of-hand only, with nothing on the palm. Multi-hour rides below freezing...it's nice to have both sides of your hand warm.

Blackdog - how old is your battery? If its compromised, you could see lower system voltages. I'm *assuming* you have a voltmeter on the bike? If you don't...GET ONE. My '06 runs 2 green lights on my Kuryakyn meter with heated jacket, gloves, and grips on. If I let it idle, it will drop to one green. If I turn on my aux lights (2 55w halogens), I get one green even when moving.

The '09 had a smaller charging system. I have noticed less heat on my CR with the same gear on (no aux lights on the CR though).

Did I mention, go get a voltmeter if you don't have one? No sense killing your battery...although it IS a guaranteed way to warm up, pushing your motorcycle home...
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Ourdee
Posted on Friday, February 03, 2012 - 03:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In winter with heated grips on try to keep the revs over 3000. My electrical system is much happier there.
Marc, It never gets cold enough on the island to need heated gear. Wet enough for heated grips but not cold enough for elec. gear.=]
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Crusty
Posted on Friday, February 03, 2012 - 07:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

On my XT; If I'm wearing my electric jacket liner and gloves and have the grip heaters on, the voltage indicator will go red at an idle. I don't know why hardley-ableson decided to lower the electrical output of a sport-TOURING motorcycle, but I strongly believe that it was to save a couple of bucks. "After all; if those riders really wanted to tour with all those electrical accessories, they'd buy our Barge Glide."
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Fordhotline
Posted on Friday, February 03, 2012 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My 06 Uly was having some issues with the charging system. I installed a volt meter so I can see what the bike is doing electrically. I had the burnt volt reg connector (77?) Installed new reg and connector and bike is was better.
Blackdog, do you use heat trollers for your heated gear? Reason asking is. Hooking heated gear right to bike batt will draw maw current. A troller will allow you to back off the heat when you do not need it. Also from my understanding about trollers is that the duty cycle the current and that would draw less from system.
I can run my heated grips (Oxford brand) wide open along with my vest, my high beam on (HID, draws less current) and my PIAA 55W. If i come to a stop i will drop to 12V. When revs come up i am at 13v min. By having the voltmeter on handlebars i can turn something down or off at idle when i see volts drop.
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Yjsrule
Posted on Friday, February 03, 2012 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My jacket liner will make me sweat at freezing at 65mph turned all the way up. The gloves aren't nearly as warm though.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Saturday, February 04, 2012 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Frank installed a single 3-way LED in the dash before I bought the Uly(2009).

At idle, with grips, both headlight bulbs(hi mod) and PIAAs I get a red light.
The PIAAS are long reach spots, so I shut them off at lo speed anyway.

I put a set of Hippo Hands on from Oct-May, makes a HUGE difference.











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Dennis_c
Posted on Saturday, February 04, 2012 - 01:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Has your Uly have the HP to pull those Hippo Hands along at 60 MPH.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2012 - 06:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So far, with the Hippo Hands, I've seen 115-120 mph.
Waiting for a good tailwind to try faster...
The Uly is surprisingly stable in this trim.

: )
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Barkbuster
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2012 - 01:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have power madd hand guards similar to zac4macs hippo hands plus a warm& safe gen 4 jacket 90 watts. hid headlight too, only draw half the power of the the upgraded stockers i had 65W bulb in a h7 base. if im idling at a traffic light the brakes on and my acc led lights and grip heaters on it wont charge but as soon as i move on the alt keeps up,and i stay very warm.
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2012 - 03:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have knockoff Hippohands on my bike, I've had them up to a GPS confirmed 151mph.
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