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Uly_man
Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was never sure about HIDs on a Buell XB but have just fitted these.





They start up fast (one second to full colour of 6000k), make no noise, a two year warranty, easy fit and you can use std lamps if you have a problem IE they swap out in seconds. At £33 a pair inc shipping in the UK and a quality built item I just had to try them. They are a generic China built item but have the metal lamp base. Nice build quality and fully waterproof as well.

I run them with the high beam switched in with the low but even on a overcast day on low beam you can see the light on black Tarmac. They cast shadows in low daylight and show up road signs as well. Outstanding and silly cheap.

I have mounted these under the cross plate and have a Stebel Nautiles air horn above it so not much space left now.

Its hard to see how you could go wrong with this deal.
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Luftkoph
Posted on Saturday, January 07, 2012 - 09:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

question uly man,e13=luxembourg e24=ireland e4=netherlands what do the other markings mean?
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Pontlee77
Posted on Saturday, January 07, 2012 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

wont 6000k burn your lamps reflectors?
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Mikef5000
Posted on Saturday, January 07, 2012 - 04:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hids run lower temperatures than halogen, so it won't burn anything. Some have reported fading or discoloration, but I haven't seen anything stating hids are more prone to this than halogen.
I have 2 years and 27k miles on my 55 watt hids with no noticeable changes.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Sunday, January 08, 2012 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

CE is Canadian, TUV is German, FCC is ours - Federal Communications Commission
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Uly_man
Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"wont 6000k burn your lamps reflectors?" This is the colour of the light output and not the heat from the lamp itself. I will keep an eye on it though. All the bike is now all LED and HID. Saves power (which is always better on this bike) and looks/works better as well.

So its -
1) HID on dip and main beam (dip stays on with the main beam)
2) LED number plate light (white 5 LED)
3) LED tail and stop light (OEM)
4) LED running/park light (9 cluster SMD chips)
5) LED mini indicators (14 white/amber LEDs with amber tip so they can be seen better from side on)
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Mikef5000
Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm running entirely HID and LED as well, with the exception of the High Beam.

55 watt HID low beam
Pair of 35 watt HID fog lights
OEM LED Tail Light
1156 Amber LED front running lights / turn signals
1156 Red LED rear running lights / turn signals
24 SMD5050 LED trunk tail/brake lights
3x Red LED tail/brake light pods
1 strand LED interior trunk lights

Standard Halogen 55 watt High beam for instant startup/flashing; almost never used anymore.
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Schwara
Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't remember the thread but I believe that I saw a recommendation from a few Badwebbers a while back for some from DDM Tuning:

35w, 4500K, H7

These are the ones I was getting ready to order for myself ... happy birthday to me.

I have been curious about the color temp though. I think I would probably prefer a temperature/color closer to a standard headlight as I know the car headlights that are more blue are distracting to me. Does anyone have a decent reference to indicate how the color temps compare to more "standard" headlights? Thanks
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Prior
Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 01:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm running the DDM HID lights and have been very happy with them. I believe I'm running the 5k. Mike and Uly_man, what HID fog lights and LED flashers are you using? Also very interested in how to set the LED flash units up to be running lights as well.

Thanks!!!
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Uly_man
Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

6000k is daylight colour. Halogens like PIAAs run at 4000k max. Anything over 6000k becomes a more blue light.
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Mikef5000
Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 01:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm also running the DDM HID's. I have the 4500k kit, which is both the whitest (aka least 'blue') and brightest color temperature.

If you go 35 watt, you are usually safe to run with the factory wiring. With 55 watt, it's a very good idea to run a relay (time delay relays are now available on Ebay, which is perfect for your low beam).

There are different ways to make the turn signals into running lights, here's how I did it:
I added two relays (one for left lights, and one for right lights).
Here's one, we'll call it the left relay:

Run an OEM left signal wire into pin 86.
Ground pin 85.
Run keyed power into 30 (from the tail light or license plate light perhaps).
Run 87A to your front and rear left turn signals.
Pin 87 is not longer used.

Repeat the process with an additional relay for the right signals.

I use a couple standard waterproof relays (must be 5-pin, some only have 4, and these will not work) and I used a dual relay socket to clean up the install:

I get my electrical stuff like this from PartsExpress.com.

This will reverse the action of your signals; from being off all the time, and blinking on, to being on all the time and blinking off.

There are several flashers available, what you're looking for is a "No-Load" flasher. American Sport Bike has them available to plug-and-play.
I'm a cheapass, so I got one from napa for a good bit cheaper, but I had to use a DVOM to figure out which wire needed to connect to which pin, as they weren't the same as the OEM flasher.

My HID Foglights also fall under the 'cheapass' catagory: I bought super standard 3" or so lights from Walmart (or Autozone or someplace cheap like that) for under $20, then I bought a DDM tuning HID conversion kit for $40. For about $60 I've got HID fog lights. They're most definitely not the most efficient lights with their cheap housings, but they do what I need, and use much less power than the standard 55 watt halogen bulbs would have.

(Message edited by Mikef5000 on January 09, 2012)
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Prior
Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 02:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm running the 35 watt as well, way better than the stock lights and not having to worry about running new wires etc is great.

Thanks for the into on the signals- I'll read through this and will probably do this mod. You can always use more lights!

Alex
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Uly_man
Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 02:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The place I live does not need bright lights but I have lived in places were I would and its good to have them if needed.
I also never use high beam. Thinking on it now my total time in cars and bikes using high beam would be no longer than a good song, drinking a quart of JD or how long I would think to polish a Harley knob?
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Pontlee77
Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 03:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My low beam blew up so i went ta chinese shop got a set of 2 boulbs for 4,50€ 6$ the light is much whiter, and gives better vision. So far so good.
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Mikef5000
Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 03:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I thought about plugging an LED bulb into the high beam socket, and wiring it to be flashing, to act like a modulating headlight. Never got around to it.
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Pkforbes87
Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2012 - 01:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just be careful and informed of the specific traffic laws in your area. Most states I know of have a clear definition of the difference between flashing and modulating.

Flashing: bright, off, bright, off
Modulating: bright, dim, bright, dim

Constantly flashing headlights are illegal in most areas, and modulating is illegal at night.
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Panhead_dan
Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2012 - 09:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got a Harley Knob you can polish.















I keed ju.
This just in...... Anyone who has bought from DDM Tuning should have got the email from them. For those that haven't, they are offering LED running lights that are both bright and inexpensive. I bought a pair of
116mm, 1350 lumin spots for $39 each. Looks like good kit. If the creek don't rise, I'll be getting them installed and dialed in this weekend. The last time I looked for lights like these, they were a hunnert bucks. They draw like 1.5 amps.
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Prior
Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2012 - 06:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just looked those up on their site and they look pretty decent for the price. Might have to order a set, but I'd probably go one flood on the right side to light up the shoulder/wood to see furry creatures and a spot for the left side to see down the road more.

Let us know how they turn out- look much better than the walmart running lights I had...
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Schwara
Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2012 - 09:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Any pictures or part numbers for the DDM running lights? I'm getting ready to order HIDs and if these look decent I might add them to my order as well.

Does anyone have pics of these installed?
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Mikef5000
Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2012 - 09:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dang, I wish they had some smaller ones! Those look quite nice on the spec sheet, and the pricing is great, but I'm looking for the slimmer lights, in the 2-2.5" range (as opposed to 4.5-5").

Nice find though! I'll be keeping my eyes on them.
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7873jake
Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2012 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does anyone know if the HID's can be fitted in to the housings of a pair of PIAA 510's?

I'm willing to experiment at the low cost for the DDM packages but if I know straight away that the bulb won't fit the housing then I won't go down that road.
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Mikef5000
Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2012 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If the light takes a standard bulb and has at least 2" of clearance in side before the lens, it should be fine. You will probably need to cut a hole in the back of the light for the (much larger) wiring to exit.
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Prior
Posted on Monday, January 16, 2012 - 06:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Panhead_dan,
How did the LED spotlight install go?
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Panhead_dan
Posted on Monday, January 16, 2012 - 08:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got them installed on Saturday. I noticed that DDM's definition of "spot" and mine are not the same. These are very bright, but not spotlike. They seem to use more juice than I thought they would. They do use less than the lights they replaced, but I thought it would be less than it seems to be. These lights will work together as low beams for non-freeway speeds. I can see fine at legal speeds. No freeway test yet and 4"-8" predicted.
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Uly_man
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 12:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

DLRs or Daylight Running Lights, LED or otherwise are not head or spot lights. For LEDs to do the same you would need a CREE system and this costs many $$$$.

The twin H7 HID system I bought is LESS than a pair of PIAA 4000K Extreme lamps. In fact it is close to half the price and much better. Being able to change back to a normal lamp, if you get caught out, was my only problem with HIDs which is not the case with these. For the price I fail to see how you can go wrong.
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Prior
Posted on Friday, January 20, 2012 - 11:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

DDM has a 10% off coupon for these I got in my email this morning- do you think they're worth the asking price, even if not 'spot' lights? Can you post any pics of the intsall you did?
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Schwara
Posted on Friday, January 20, 2012 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

is the coupon for the LED running lights or the HID headlight replacements?
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Prior
Posted on Friday, January 20, 2012 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

10% off all LED Products*
Enter Coupon Code: LED10.
Valid through Feb 10th, 2012 for online and in store orders
*Coupon Code not valid on Clearance Items

Looks like all of the LED products they offer.
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Schwara
Posted on Friday, January 20, 2012 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

cool, thanks
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