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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 08:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Went to buy some 15W50 mobil 1 but noticed it did not claim diesel rating of CF on the bottle. So I ended up buying Full Syn Valvoline 20W50 with CF rating. When I got home I got online and found that Mobil 1 does claim CF but you have to go to this online page to find it. What's the deal with that?
Must want to push us to buy the more expensive v-twin oil which proudly displays CF rating on the bottle.
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Ourdee
Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 10:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I switched to AmsOil.
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Cyclonedon
Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 11:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

you were looking for the one sold at Walmart? This is all I could find on their website.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Mobil-1-20W-50-Full-Synt hetic-Motorcycle-Oil-1qt/16767830
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Trojan
Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 08:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Must want to push us to buy the more expensive v-twin oil which proudly displays CF rating on the bottle.

That may be because the Mobil 1 20/50 V-Twin oil is specifically designed for air cooled motors whereas the other variants are for water cooled higher revving motors. Just because they have CF on the bottle doesn't guarantee that they have the same addititives etc and these are important ingredients in anti foaming and heat resistance. Mobil 1 V-Twin is extremely good and I would spend th eextra to run this rather than some 'diesel' spec CF branded oil.
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Teeps
Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 09:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I couldn't find the Mobil 1 15/50 at wally's world. Appeared they have reduced their oil inventory and selection.
So I went online and found this:

http://www.amazon.com/Valvoline-VV855-Racing-Synth etic-Bottles/dp/B000GAN3H6
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Timberwolf
Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 09:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I couldn't find the Mobil 1 15/50 at wally's world. Appeared they have reduced their oil inventory and selection.
So I went online and found this:


http://www.amazon.com/Valvoline-VV855-Racing-Synthetic-Bottles/dp/B000GAN3H6




You may want to reconsider using that. Specifically states that it has advanced friction modifiers and is not for use with wet clutches

(Message edited by Timberwolf on August 31, 2011)
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Dr_greg
Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You may want to reconsider using that. Specifically states that it has advanced friction modifiers and is not for use with wet clutches...

Yeah, I've always heard that. HOWEVER, we fortunate Uly riders have a brilliantly engineered powertrain that uses separate lubricants for engine and tranmission (including clutch). So you can use Mobil-1 with all its friction modifiers and not worry about clutch issues...

--Doc

PS. I've used Mobil-1 15W-50 in bikes w/shared oil (e.g. Aprilia Mille) and had NO clutch issues. However, I'm not using it in the Ducati Multistrada.
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Timberwolf
Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Uh yeah, I completely forgot about our oils being separated. Or ... maybe I was just checking to see if anyone was paying attention?

Yeah, that must have been it. Doc wins the prize!
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Yjsrule
Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I run Mobil one 15/50 in the engine and v-twin in the primary.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Timberwolf,
I bought Valvoline syn 20W50 and not their syn racing oil. I saw that racing oil there also. This was at Advanced Auto.http://www.valvoline.com/products/consumer-product s/motor-oil/full-synthetic-motor-oil/5#b
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 04:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.valvoline.com/pdf/SynPower.pdf
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Tempest766
Posted on Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So the question still stands then:

Is Mobil-1 V-twin 20w50 a satisfactory oil for the modified sportster engine in Buells such as the Ulysses?

Can/should it be used in both the oil reservoir and the transmission on the Ulysses?

The Mobil-1 syn says CF rating but not the CF-4 diesel that the Buell manual calls for so is it adequate/compatible?

The questions are about Mobil-1, not Amsoil or Valvoline.
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Yjsrule
Posted on Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The v-twin works fine in the primary. I'm sure it's good in the motor as well. I'm still using up the 15-50 mobile one I bought when wal mart had it on clearance then I'll move to something else. Probably some kind of diesel oil.
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Arcticktm
Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2011 - 01:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

WalMart dropping the 15W50 Mobil 1 is going to get costly.
I has used it for many years in all 3 bikes (including the KTM that has a wet clutch).
Now it looks like I'll be paying a lot more for what is available around here (the Valvoline or Mobil motorcycle oils).
going from about $5/qt to over $9/qt.
Thinking about switching to Diesel oil (Rotella or Delvac), but I have gotten comfortable with synthetic, and am not keen on the syn versions 5W base stock.
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Yamafreak
Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2011 - 03:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

AMSOIL W60 both holes works great for me My$00.02
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Buewulf
Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2011 - 04:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is Mobil-1 V-twin 20w50 a satisfactory oil for the modified sportster engine in Buells such as the Ulysses?

Yes. I use it and am very happy with it.

Can/should it be used in both the oil reservoir and the transmission on the Ulysses?

Mobil themselves actually recommend their Mobil-1 10w40 motorcycle oil for the primary. But yes, you could use the V-Twin 20w50 with no ill effect.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2011 - 05:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Arcticktm,
From what I read in Bobistheoilguy's Motor oil University, synthetics base stock on a 5W40 or 15W40 would be the 40weight. Dino oil is exactly the opposite where a 5W40 or 5W30 would have a base stock of 5 weight. Here is where it explains this http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/motor-oil-103/
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Tstone
Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2011 - 07:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wonder if there's any difference (in this regard) between the true synthetics and the base stocks that start out as petroleum and are refined to meet the synthetic specs.
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