| Author | Message | ||
     Xdigitalx |
I have my Hid's powered directly from my battery thru key-switched relays, but my grips are on a non-key-switched power line. My question is, once I wire the grips properly, can I use the same power line for the hid's and just split it before each devices relay instead of running 2 power lines? | ||
| Reepicheep |
So you are saying use the HID relay to run both the HID and the grips? Probably fine. Check the current rating of the relay and the rating of the current on the connecting wire (you can look it up by gauge). Sure would be cool if you had a grip controller that was smart enough to detect a stressed charging system, and that would automatically and instantly cut power to the grips when it did.  | ||
| Motorfish |
Yeah, if only some one would come up with that, or show me a schematic on how to build my own, hmmmmmmmm.  | ||
| Ratbuell |
Sure would be cool if you had a grip controller that was smart enough to detect a stressed charging system, and that would automatically and instantly cut power to the grips when it did. ; ) Ummm....you mean, like if you had it plugged into the aux power outlet behind the flyscreen like the stock heated grips? Stock grips use the same wires that feed the cig lighter. I mean, since that circuit (the outlets on the dash and under the seat) are ECM controlled and all.... Why reinvent the wheel? An Elf already did the hard stuff for you! | ||
| Froggy |
Ok, I'm gonna try and avoid insulting any bikes in the future by avoiding words like inferior and obsolete, so I will just say its key switched, not ECM switched on 2007 and older models  Just looking at the profiles of everyone on this thread, nobody has one of the better newer more awesome 08+'s | ||
| Datsaxman |
Yeah, well I just rode my new 2009 XT back from Arkansas last week. It is A LOT better than my 2006 X. LOVE the factory heated grips. It was rarely over 40F the whole trip. 11W and 18W are the two power ratings for the grips (low and high), and that isn't enough to worry your electric system. Just say NO to complicated electronics for simple tasks. Adding a Stebel and HID low beam this week. Key switch, relay, AND on-off switch for the HID, and dedicated power for the Stebel. | ||
| Ratbuell |
Actually, the outlets are both key and ecm switched. The key turns them off manually. The ecm turns them off if system voltage drops below a preset threshold. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Cool to know, but if my 2007 has the cut off, I've never seen it hit. Of course I've never dramatically overloaded my charging system either. | ||
| Zac4mac |
My grips on Loretta are connected to the aux port, same as the OEMs on the Uly. At idle, I have seen my Aux shut off a couple of times on the 1125, I also have an LED voltmeter on that line. I have yet to see that happen on the Uly. Unless you sit a long while, the heat will still be there until voltage comes back up enough to enable the Aux Ckt again. Z <edit> Reep - I think the grips became "standard" in 2008. Maxwell Smart voice - "missed it by THAT much!" (Message edited by zac4mac on January 12, 2011) | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
Ratbuell: "The ecm turns them off if system voltage drops below a preset threshold." I've noticed this and wondered if that what was going on. See, I have one of those Kuryakin voltmeters wired to the rear of my auxiliary plug. On a cold startup, it takes 2 seconds for it to read anything at all but if the engine is warm and starts quickly, the LEDs light up and stay lit throughout the crankup. | ||
| Ratbuell |
My one and only time it cut out on me was when my 77 went south. My voltmeter is wired to the lights for the gauges, so no ECM interference (when I really need the voltmeter, the ECM would be cutting it out!), but I noticed my GPS (also wired to the aux outlet) switch over to battery power, which made me look at the voltmeter, which was amber. Then red. Wire the voltmeter to something ignition switched, and NOT controlled by the ECM. Again - when your system drops to the point that you really NEED the gauge...the ECM just turned off the circuit you're monitoring with. On the plug on the back of the gauges, pin 12 (gray/orange) is ignition switched 12v+; pin 13 (black) is ground. Tap the voltmeter in there. | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
Sounds like a plan to me. Next time I am back there poking around, I'll make the change. Going to install a better horn this year anyways. |
