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Anonymous
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The scenario;
You are on an overnight riding trip with a group of 10 or so others and 1 bike breaks down and can’t be repaired on the roadside.

What do you do?
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Andymnelson
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 10:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wait for him to get a tow and a cab and continue on. It's the not the fault of the other 9 that his bike wasn't reliable enough for the trip. His safety is all you need to worry about, once he's on his way so should you be.
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Johnboy777
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Kick his ass to the curb and motor on - no sense in slowing down the whole lot. I think it's called tough love.

Oh yeah, make sure you leave the guy with enough water - I learnt that one the hard way, his wife still won't talk to me to this day.

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Jphish
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 10:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Johnboy - Wives ARE funny that way. Unforgiving of some of the most trivial percieved 'slights'. PS - Should also leave em' with an energy bar just in case its an overnighter.
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 10:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We had the same situation happen on the Headless Horseman Run last fall. Damnut's Blast broke down 300 miles from home during the run, the small group of us stayed with him till one of the other guys in his area who was also in the run came with a SUV and then tossed the bike in the back.

The majority of the group continued on the run as we didn't need 50 bikes parked on the side of the road. Our little group ended up cutting off a chunk of the run and met back up with them later.
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Babired
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Split the group more go to the destination you're headed for. The one or 2 bikes stay with the downed bike. Their choice to keep going in the same direction or go home. Last time I had a problem like that the rider kept going and the group that reached the destination first helped when the downed bike got to the shop and the rider to the event. So it worked out well
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Rwven
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 10:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Have only had that happen one time. Sent the group on to dinner and I stayed with the broken bike & rider. He was having a fueling problem and I did manage to get him sorted out in time for the appetizer....
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Bking
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

At least you guys could have helped put out the fire before you took off!



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Yamafreak
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I carry a tow rope for the Harley's
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 02:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

You are on an overnight riding trip with a group of 10 or so others and 1 bike breaks down and can’t be repaired on the roadside.

What do you do?




Does this really present a dilemma? : ? One person or more hangs with the guy until he makes arrangements for his bike. Give him a ride if needed.
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Firstbuell
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 06:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I used to ride with this hard-core roadmaster who had lotsa rules -
we chafed at his rigidity, but things usually worked very well

you had to carry -

$300 cash
tow rope
1st aid kit

M/C tow service membership was also strongly advised

if you were broken down at side of road,
with no blood, broken bones or other danger issues.....

see ya!
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Nevrenuf
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

back when i was the last one in our group to still run the shovelhead, i was always having problems while out and about but not once did any of my friends take off and leave me stranded nor would i have done that to them.
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Pso
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nobody left behind. Me and my friends standard. Large group like above leve at least two behind.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 07:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The most-local rider stays with the breakdown guy until he's got alternate transportation for himself and his motorcycle. Before the group leaves, they give Local Guy a meetup place or route update so he/she knows where to go (depending on time) to rejoin the group.

Local guy - whose bike runs - is able to navigate quickly to help stations if there is no cell reception...knows where the convenience stores are for things like energy bars and fluids...and worst case knows "someone" with a garage or a shed that can keep the busted bike until the owner can retrieve it.

If there's no "local guy"...the one with the best GPS wins : ) (See finding stores, fluids, etc). But at least one fully-functional rider and machine should stay, "just in case".

And before "local guy" leaves, make sure busted-guy's ride/taxi/towtruck/whatever - and busted-guy - have directions and contact information for the group's intended destination (unless the failure is catastrophic and they're not going to rejoin).

If you're the cautious type..."local guy" should have a friend whose bike also functions, so they're not riding solo to catch up to the group. Again - Just In Case.

It's *not* the group's fault the guys' bike broke...but why, if they're a friend, leave them on the side of the road just because they have the nerve to cut into your schedule?

We've all been there...and next time, wouldn't it be nice to have someone to talk to while waiting for rescue?

Karma's a bitch.

And she's got a great long-term memory.

(Message edited by ratbuell on May 18, 2010)
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Orangeulius
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 09:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Last year I was coming back from Chattanooga to Knoxville after dark, my shifter broke doing 70 mph just as me and three other riders left Chattanooga. All I knew was that I was in heavy traffic and not sure what the hell happened. I was stuck in 5th gear with a totally unresponsive shifter. I tried flashing my lights at the only rider I could see ahead of me to no avail. I was fortunate to be able to grab the next exit and chug to a well lit gas station on the corner....and that was the last I saw of anyone.

I eventually figured out a way to jerry rig my shifter and grabbed a hotel room nearby. Thank God for zip ties! At first I was kind of shocked that no one came back for me. It wasn't intentional on their part and two of the riders who I had never ridden with before were really bookin it ahead. I don't have any ill feelings about this but hope I would be more considerate and aware of my fellow riders status if the tables were turned.
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Nevrenuf
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 09:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

how many of them were on buells orange? just curious
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Orangeulius
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 09:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

1 Buell, 2 Harleys.
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Johnboy777
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Its always a given if you ride with Harley's, one of 'em will break down.

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Hotdog271
Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2010 - 10:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This is the case where being the most mechanically inclined isn't a good thing... I always get stuck fixing whoevers bike is broke on the side of the road with with a multi tool, some tape, chewing gum wire-ties and whatever other crap we can find. Then off to try and find the bar that everyone is waiting for us at... Well that was in the harley days... So Far so good in the Buell days!
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Dynasport
Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2010 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't normally ride in big groups. In the small groups (2-5) that I ride in I would not leave anyone behind until I knew they were on their way again. Either on the bike or a tow truck.
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