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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 10:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ok, I need to pick up stuff to correctly install wheels on the bikes. I am pretty sure I only need to pick up a torque wrench and some axle lube. Can someone link me to these online? I know if I went to Ace or Sears I will end up buying the wrong thing plus a dozen other things I have no use for like routers and bandsaws.

About the wrench, I know there is different kinds. Is there one I can electronically program and then press a button and let it apply the torque? I know I will have difficulty applying the 50 or whatever lbs to the fasteners. I would need an 10ft bar to even attempt the crankshaft nut.
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Terrible1one3
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 10:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have always installed wheels incorrectly I guess : ).

I just throw whatever grease I have laying around on the axle and torque the bolts down to a similar level as to what it took to get them off.
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Xbimmer
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 10:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

50 ft/lbs isn't that much Froggy, any good 1/2" drive wrench is good for way more than that. You can get a standard beam-type, fancier click-type where you dial in your desired torque and it clicks when you reach it, or the dial or readout type. Most important is to make sure that you have a clear sweep with the wrench so you can approach your torque factor in one smooth movement of the wrench. IIRC the socket to drive the axle adapter is 22mm, same as the fork preload adjusters (at least on my '06).
Crafstman wrenches, take your pick:
http://www.craftsman.com/shc/s/s_10155_12602_Tools +&+Equipment_Hand+Tools_Mechanic+Tools?storeId=101 55&sName=Mechanic+Tools&vName=Tools+%26+Equipment& cName=Hand+Tools&catalogId=12602#viewItems=12&page Num=1&sortOption=PRICE_LOW_TO_HIGH&&filter=Product +Type=Torque+wrenches

OK so the link won't work... just use the dropdown on the left...
I've used my beam type for 40 years, works just fine. I won't use my clicker on my bike, haven't had it calibrated and don't trust it on the axles or small fasteners.

Plain old Permatex anti seize from any auto parts store is fine, just don't use the copper type on the axle stuff, the silver is what you want:
http://www.permatex.com/products/motorcycle/motorc ycle_lubricants/motorcycle_specialty_lubricants/mo torcycle_permatex_anti_seize_lubricant.htm

The jar will last you forever.

(Message edited by xbimmer on May 05, 2010)
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Mnrider
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nickel anti-seize for the axle and bolts.
To keep things simple at home I use a 1/2 inch drive beam type torque wrench that goes up to 140 ft. lbs.
You may also want a 1/4 inch drive that goes up to 100 inch lbs.
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Teeps
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 11:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I use a Snap-on 3/8 torque wrench. It's range is 5~75lbs./ft.
But any 3/8" torque wrench that is rated to 70 or more lbs./ft. will work.
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Rwven
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I bought one of Sears (Craftsman) cheap beam style torque wrenches. It works just fine for the home mechanic. I think the one I got tops out at 75-80 lb/ft.

(Message edited by rwven on May 05, 2010)
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Towpro
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Froggy, I see your 60 miles from Harbor Freight (up in CT). I was an auto mechanic for 13 years before my current profession. I have no problems with Harbor Freight tools for use in my home garage.
I might even replace my snapon torque wrench with a harbor freight wrench, the head on the snapon keeps stripping the gears out.

I have no problems using a Chinese wrench to torque the axle on my American bike that has Chinese rims.


(Message edited by towpro on May 05, 2010)
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Arcticktm
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 01:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a 1/2" clicker (that I blindly trust, as I certainly do not calibrate and it is old and not a big name), and a 3/8" clicker and 3/8" Craftsman beam type.

Keep this in mind: All my clickers only work to tighten RH threads.
Since the frnt axle is LH thread (on my Uly anyway), they won't work, so I need to use the beam wrench on that one, since it works either direction.

My clickers may not be within 1%, but they at least are a lot more consistent than relaying on my elbow to apply the proper torque.

The only torque I had any trouble with was in replacing the primary gearing, which was something like 225 ft-lbs IIRC.

Wheel lug nuts/bolts on most cars are about 90-110 ft-lbs, and that is pretty easy with a decent size 1/2" clicker that I have.
I feel the clicker is nice to have when doing something like rotating car tires, where you have maybe 20 fasteners to torque quickly. You don't have to bother trying to read the scale while you apply the force.

Good old Permatex anit-sieze (silver/grey) had never let me down yet, and is available almost anywhere (Wally, auto parts, hardware, etc).
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 07:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cool thanks for the info, I think I will get one of these.

http://www.craftsman.com/shc/s/p_10155_12602_00945 286000P?vName=Tools+%26+Equipment&keyword=torque+w rench

Its programmable and should work both ways. I am pretty sure I have a half inch drive socket. Why couldn't they call it 12.7mm and make my life easier?
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Luftkoph
Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 07:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Did I feel a breeze off of the sahara,Oh no it was just froggys sense of humor.
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