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Hangetsu
Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 01:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just a little info I found. I'm sure some of you have seen it.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38 2054
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Bdrag
Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 05:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have these on my Dl 1000. V Strom. I love the grip and handle. Great in the rain. The review was DEAD ON and the same milage I get on my strom. The carcus is thick and can hold a plug in a pinch with no concerns. Very stiff side walls. I have ridden with a flat rear for 5 or 6 miles and it stayed on the bead. Its Hell to get the front tire which is a 110/80/19 back on the strom with the chepo manual Harbor Freight tire machine the carcus is so stiff.

I just got 1920 miles on my Syncs and the rear is toast. I would run these on the ULY if they cam in the right size. But they don't. :-(= I have a set of Angels comming to try. I hope to get atleast 3500 from a rear on the Uly. I need a new Scorpion on the rear of the DL as we speak but the Uly is gettin all the current miles on it.
BDRAG
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Hangetsu
Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Actually they do come in 17" sizes now. They were made for the new Ducati Multi. I'm sure it's only a matter of a very short time before they will be available to the masses.
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Arcticktm
Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 01:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

From Pirelli US website, they do have them in Uly appropriate sizes (190/55-17):

Pirelli Scorpion Trail sizes


I am little concerned about the "Unborn handling", though...
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Itileman
Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 05:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They last 9 months.
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Ulynut
Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't know why they wouldn't put a more aggressive tread pattern on those. I'm looking at a set of Angel STs right now that look just as good as those for dirt riding.
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Itileman
Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 10:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The tread pattern looks like a good dual sport compromise to me. The big issue is the carcass thickness to take the off road beating.
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Union_man
Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 10:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

At first glance...may be my next set.
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Mikef5000
Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 11:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tread pattern is only part of what makes a tire good off road. Think durability.
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Mikef5000
Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 11:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Also, if you scroll down a bit in this forum you'll find this thread:
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/532712.html?1265595051
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Hangetsu
Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 12:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

NIne months is pretty good in my book. I burn through a set of Metzler Roadtech Z6's in about three during the summer.
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Paint_shaker
Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 08:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't want a 190, where's the 180???
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Mikef5000
Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 10:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'll take a 190 over the 150 or 160 that make up our only other dirty tire options.
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Itileman
Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 06:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+1 on the 190.
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Ulynut
Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tread pattern is only part of what makes a tire good off road. Think durability.

My thinking is, why bother making a tougher carcass if you're going to put (what looks to me like) street tread on it anyway. If you hit a little mud with that front tire, you're going to eat it. Give me something more aggressive and I'll be happy.
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Drunk_uncle
Posted on Wednesday, February 24, 2010 - 03:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I plan on the MT60 up front to get a little more bite and the Trail in the rear. A guy did the TAT with MT90's front and rear and the bike just ate the rear for lunch, but the front survived. So will how this works out. Will have a ride report after the first weekend of May when I do an all day two day off road ride.
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Bdrag
Posted on Wednesday, February 24, 2010 - 07:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mikef5000

Like I said, the scorpion trails have a real thick carcess. The front is so stiff on the strom being a 110/80/19, its a bitch to get it on and off the wheel with a Harbor Freight type manual changer. The syncs I removed were scary thin. Sport bike tires with a few more grooves. The original Scorpion MT/90's were damn good tires. I do not know why they quit making them.

I run these Scorpion trails on my DL 1000 and they work well with the little off roading I do. Dirt roads here and there. I get about 3000 to 3500 on a rear and have managed 12,000 on one of the fronts but normal is about 8500 before the cupping gets to me.

I would try a set if they come in the 190's for the rear. Great tire.

BDRAG
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Dr_greg
Posted on Wednesday, February 24, 2010 - 09:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

Like I said, the scorpion trails have a real thick carcass...


Having holed a Sync off-pavement, that is good news indeed. Thanks.

--Doc
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Mikef5000
Posted on Wednesday, February 24, 2010 - 10:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mikef5000
Like I said, the scorpion trails have a real thick carcass.


Huh? We're on the same side my dude! I was further emphasizing your point.

But the 3000-3500 miles on the rear is no good at all. I need, absolutely need, to get over 5000 miles out of my rear. I plan on trying this tire as soon as it's available, but now you've got me worried that it's not going to do what I want.
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Bdrag
Posted on Thursday, February 25, 2010 - 12:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mikef5000
HAHhaaaaaaaa, Sorry! Your tires will last if ya don't weigh what I do! HAHahaaaaaaaa. I got 1800 out of the OEM syncs. Thats WAY NOT ACCEPTABLE. I just put the Pirelli Angels on and boy what a riding tire it is. Hope to get atleast 3000 to 4000 on it. I only get 3000 on the Strom but thats was with all the different Duel Sport Tires I have tried which were the OEM Trailwings, Dunlop 607's which lost dry traction before ya drag a peg, the Metzeler Torance which were pretty decent and the Pirelli Scorpio MT/90's that were the best IO used for Milage at 5000 on the rears but they were discontinued. Now the New ones work great sept for the milage. VERY stiff side wall and a thick carcus compared to the sync anyway. 2 ply side wall and 4 ply tread I think?

If you get 5000 on what ya run, I bet you would get that on the new tire.

BDRAG
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Mikef5000
Posted on Thursday, February 25, 2010 - 11:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

THEY ARE AVAILABLE!!!!!!!!

$174.99 for the rear
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/2/29/393/1485 2/ITEM/Pirelli-Scorpion-Trail-Dual-Sport-Rear-Tire .aspx

$125.99 for the front
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/2/29/393/1485 0/ITEM/Pirelli-Scorpion-Trail-Dual-Sport-Front-Tir e.aspx

Steep, but should be worth it.

$300.98 with free shipping.

(Message edited by mikef5000 on February 25, 2010)
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, February 25, 2010 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Steep? I paid more for used tires for my bike a few weeks ago : )
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Mikef5000
Posted on Friday, February 26, 2010 - 12:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh, well.... I'm sorry.
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Eulysses
Posted on Friday, February 26, 2010 - 01:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Been running around Yuma in 80 degrees with no helmet and I can hear my OEM's as I twist that throttle...chirping away. These torque monsters we have are tire eaters...or my throttle twister is a tire eater. 1850 now...Syncs still lookin' good.
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Towpro
Posted on Friday, February 26, 2010 - 05:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mike, the front is out of stock at that link.

Will the 190/55 fit with no problems?
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Mikef5000
Posted on Friday, February 26, 2010 - 08:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mike, the front is out of stock at that link.

NOOOO! I knew I shouldn't have waited. I swear it was in stock yesterday. I was going to wait till pay day next week. DANG!

And no other 190 tires have fitment issues, I don't see why this one will.
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Drunk_uncle
Posted on Saturday, February 27, 2010 - 02:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just got the last one of the front or rear, don't remember from On Any Moto out of Arizona. Paid 114 for the front and 160 for the rear with free shipping.
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Towpro
Posted on Saturday, February 27, 2010 - 03:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mike, I never post stuff like that here until after I have ordered one for myself : )
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Mikef5000
Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2010 - 10:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The tires are available again!

And I have a set on order!
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Snakebreak
Posted on Monday, March 08, 2010 - 02:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So has anyone put these on their Uly yet?
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