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Ulyssesmatt
Posted on Friday, January 15, 2010 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

As an afterthought on my previous post Scooter: I can't say with certainty that the front isolator on the 2010 is the same as a 2006. You should consider picking up a copy of the 2006 XB12X parts catalog from one of our BadWeB sponsor dealers. The part number for the manual is 99575-06Y. Retail is $48.00 and it is a damn handy thing to have around.
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Dio
Posted on Friday, January 15, 2010 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The front and rear are the same part number as listed for an '06.
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Sweetfish89
Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 03:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What is the advantage of having the '10 rear wheel over a '07 rear wheel?
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Froggy
Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 03:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The 2010 wheel has a new 3 bearing setup that will prevent all bearing related issues : )
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Towpro
Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 05:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Plus I hear it also had real seals, to keep the dirt/water load off the sealed bearing seals.
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Dio
Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 11:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

At least that's what we all hope, that it will end all rear wheel bearing issues. I haven't installed mine yet, but the bearings are bigger and there are 3 of them instead of 2, and the separate seals can't hurt. There probably aren't enough '10 wheels out that have high enough mileage to prove this is the "end all" for rear wheel bearing issues. I still wonder though, in the photos of the failures on pre-'10, it always seems that the rotor side bearing was the first to go. The '10 wheel only has 1 bearing on the rotor side and 2 on the pulley side. Time will tell.
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Dirt
Posted on Sunday, January 17, 2010 - 07:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dio
Two of my three bearing failures occurred on the sprocket side. However, the one time the rotor side bearing did fail, it damaged the wheel, axle, axle spacer and swing arm. That is the one you should really worry about if your bike is out of warranty. Sprocket side failures were less destructive requiring just new axles and spacers. A relatively cheap fix.
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Paralegalpete
Posted on Sunday, January 17, 2010 - 09:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rotor side for me with damage to wheel, swingarm and rotor
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Buellerxt
Posted on Sunday, January 17, 2010 - 06:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dirt,

Looking at the timing of your three bearing failures, and comparing mileages with your three belt failures, it looks like the bearing failures may have led to your belt failures. What are your thoughts on that? Any lessons learned on how to avoid bearing and/or belt failures, other than not riding? Ths. Mike
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Dirt
Posted on Monday, January 18, 2010 - 04:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would agree that my belt failures were fairly in sync with bearing failures. In one case, the belt failed at the dealership directly after having the bearing replaced under warranty. Service manager told me it snapped as soon as the tech took the bike off the lift to take it for a test ride. Said he put it in gear and gave it gas and snap! They wanted me to pay for a new belt, told me it was a wear item. I told them to call Buell. They did and it was replaced without further issue. Who knows, tech was probably out beating on it.

I got nothing for you regarding lessons learned or how to avoid failures. Maybe the 2010 wheel is the answer. Some folks on here don't seem to have a problem with either bearings or belts, so maybe it's my style of riding. I don't have answer for it.

I do have the black sealed bearings on my bike now and it has been just about 15k without a failure, so maybe they will do the trick. But to be on the safe side I guess I will order a new belt when and if the bearings fail. Although from the sounds of things, I will probably have to wait 6 months for the belts to clear backorder and the price will probably be doubled from what it is currently.
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Buellerxt
Posted on Monday, January 18, 2010 - 07:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Dirt,

I appreciate the info. I don't think there are many, if any, who have put any kind of serious mileage on a Uly without having a bearing failure. It was obviously a bad design that took too long to correct. I hope you keep having good luck with the black seals. I hope to get long service out of both the belt and rear bearings by babying them now that I know about the poor designs and lack of reliability. I might not be successful but we'll see. Ths.
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