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99savage
| Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 01:17 pm: |
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Repost - But too lazy to dig thru the archives to find the answer. Getting 06 Ulysses ready for its winter slumber & want to change the oil. Nearest Buell Dealer is 110 miles away. What is an interchangeable filter I can get @ the auto parts store? Will write down the answer & never bother you again. |
Glenn
| Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 01:22 pm: |
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Here you go! I use the Purolator Pure One and paint them black first. Wix= 51394 <---- comes painted black! K&N= KN-177 Wal-Mart Super Tech = ST4967 Fram = PH4967 AC = PF1233 Motorcraft = FL836 STP = S4967 Bosch= 3311 Purolator=L14476 Purolator Pure One=PL14476 H-D=63806-00Y AC Delco=pf1233 MOBIL= M1-103 BECK/ARNLEY = 041-8066 Napa = 1394 FLEETGUARD = HF6158 |
99savage
| Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 01:33 pm: |
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Thanks - Duly noted in the manual While I am making inquiries - WHAT IS THE MAXIUMUM TORK TO BE USED WHEN TIGHTENING THE DRAIN PLUG? Manual says 29 ft-lb but sometime in the past there were reported instances of that much tork stripping the female thread. also Do you use "Loctite"? What color is "Loctite" 565? (Message edited by 99Savage on November 03, 2009) |
Froggy
| Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 01:41 pm: |
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Whats the difference between the two Purolator's mentioned? |
Glenn
| Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 02:02 pm: |
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The part number starting with "P" or the PL14476 is the "Pure One" Purolator, their best, and has gotten good reviews for filtration in a few net articles I've read. |
Mikef5000
| Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 02:12 pm: |
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Yup. Purolator = standard Purolator Pure One = high end |
Sekalilgai
| Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 02:13 pm: |
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Loctite 565 is white/cream colored I've always just 'snugged' up the drain plug (after all the oring does the sealing) |
Froggy
| Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 02:31 pm: |
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Savage, I don't use a torque setting, I just use a wrench and get it good an snug. I don't have the arm strength to strip it. I don't use loctite. |
Rwven
| Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 02:37 pm: |
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One advantage to using ptfe pipe thread sealant is that it will lubricate the O ring and help prevent it from tearing. |
Hughlysses
| Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 02:55 pm: |
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Yea, Loctite 565 is not what most of us think of as "Loctite". It's their version of teflon pipe thread sealant. I use the generic equivalent from Home Depot or Lowes. |
Froggy
| Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 03:34 pm: |
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If you use teflon tape and don't apply it right, it can break off and then clog up oil lines. But there have been people that ran over 100k miles with the tape and no issue
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Nobuell
| Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 05:16 pm: |
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I did some research regarding oil filter bypass pressure ratings. See below: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/485038.html?1249669343 I will only use a filter that has the proper bypass ratings. Many car filters are higher |
Glenn
| Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 06:58 pm: |
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Good research NoBuell, I'm wondering though what the idle oil pressure is for the Buell. |
Missin44
| Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 07:34 pm: |
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Bosch is also black |
Sanjuro
| Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 08:57 pm: |
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On that note, I'd like to chime in. For the second time now, the rocker panel gasket sprung a leak. During my tour of the shop, and talking with the mechanic, he semi-got-on-my-case about using a non-standard oil filter (Pure One). I say semi, because he mentioned that from experience, a lot of folks with leaking gaskets seems to be running on non-factory filters pointing to oil pressure differences. They took care of me and fixed everything. But I promptly bought HD filter replacements. I respect hands on experience. Any thoughts? Validations or evidence to the contrary with some hard data out there? I bought Pure One after a bad experience with an HD filter; but that's for another thread; simply put, oddly enough, the oil level registered low with it. |
Xbimmer
| Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 10:50 pm: |
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Purolator itself advises against using the Pure One filter in motorcycles, see the last paragraph: http://www.purolatorautofilters.net/products/pages /motorcyclefilters.aspx I tried a Bosch (once), the oil entry holes are more restrictive IMHO, not good I'm assuming, due to the Buell's relatively low oil pressure. First time my bike went into skip-spark right after installing it, maybe due to restricted flow, just guessing. If I have to use something other than stock I use the Super Tech ST4967. I have one cut apart alongside a Buell stocker in my garage, no pics yet, sorry. They are very close if not identical in many ways. The Buell filter has a more robust relief valve and a nicer semi-O-ring seal, but other than that they look the same. Super Tech works fine in a pinch. |
Ulyessesman
| Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 12:22 am: |
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While I am making inquiries - WHAT IS THE MAXIUMUM TORK TO BE USED WHEN TIGHTENING THE DRAIN PLUG? Manual says 29 ft-lb but sometime in the past there were reported instances of that much tork stripping the female thread : if it feeels snug with a ratchet , and if it feels tight , dont go any futher , if your mechanicaly inclined and your used to tightening bolts this should be no problem , however if you are worried about the stock torque specs being too tight , tighten 3lbs short of the reccomended tourqe rating , as long as you co;;apse the coller on the bottom of the lock washer of your drain plug theres no reason to go any tighter , the lock washer will not hold on any tighter than it does with the coller fully collasped , easy way to judge this is crawl under the bike and look / feel the bolt tighten down, if your he-man and u do strip it look into HELI-COILS and thread tape, good luck! |
Glenn
| Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 06:49 am: |
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I'm glad this post came up and I'm taking the Pure One off of the Uly. Nobuell, did you make a tabulation of the relief valve pressures for some of these filters that you can post? Thanks |
Nobuell
| Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 12:21 pm: |
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Unfortunately most manufacturers do not post data regarding their filters. For simplicity sake, I use either the NAPA or WIX versions. They make great filters and are readily available at good auto parts stores. They cost a few dollars more but I trust their quality and performance. The nice thing about WIX is you can send an email with a question and they respond quickly. Good service. I use them mostly as a result. |
Glenn
| Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 12:49 pm: |
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Thanks Nobuell, I'm using them or the NAPA equivalent from now on. |
Arcticktm
| Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 01:04 pm: |
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Been using the Mobil M1-103 for a couple years now with no known issues. It also comes black and is in stock at my local Advance Auto. I torque the drain plugs to about 18 ft-lbs with no issues in 3 years. I do use the Loctite sealant, and have replaced the o-ring once or twice when it looked a little ragged. |
Blasterd
| Posted on Friday, December 11, 2009 - 06:01 pm: |
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I had a K&N KN-177 in the garage I was going to use for my oil change tomorrow but when I bought my oil the dealer said it didn't cross-reference for the 2009 bikes, only the 2003-2008. Can anyone confirm this? Of course he was out of the OEM Buell filter. |
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