| Author | Message | ||
     Tootal |
Jphish, I found the same thing. When taking my ecm off the bolt in question was just spinning so I just rotated the ecm out of the way and was able to remove the pan with no problems. Upon reassembly I put in the new bolt and tightened it snug but still allowing the ecm to pivot. I mean your bolting into plastic, no need to crank it down anyway! Worked like a charm.  | ||
| Alershka |
Well I'm pissed. I've never removed my battery pan before but one of the screws (right rear) the torx part is completely stripped out. I can't get it off. I now have it bent and I'm going to try to get the vent installed but it slowed me down a bunch. I also removed a screw next to the shock reservoir and I could not get that one back in place. Since I bent the battery holder all out of place, trying to screw it back in was quite a challenge. I just need to tighten down the battery holder and reattach the ecm and I'm done. Seems like everything was harder than it needed to be. | ||
| Paralegalpete |
Alershka, did you stick with the plan and leave the seat pan and bag brackets on? Can you describe what you did? | ||
| Rwven |
I got mine installed today. I only removed the one hex head (rear) bolt from the ECM and I removed the clip that holds the damper adjuster (though I didn't need to). I worked the shroud in little by little until I finally got it into place. I took about 45 minutes getting it in. The plastic the shroud is made of is very flexible, it's not overly warm here today yet the shroud showed no signs of being stressed by all the pushing and flexing I was doing. | ||
| Petereid |
to put that nut back on the ECM just use a hemostat to hold it in place from below. It's pretty easy with the $2 hemostat from a hobby store (no tool box should be without one!!) | ||
| Alershka |
I did stick with the plan but having said that, I should have done a bit more reading on the boards here as I probably took more apart than really necessary. I followed the instructions pretty closely (they are pretty vague imo) and did the battery pan removal as described without fully removing the ecm. Instead, I removed the one bolt on the ecm closest to the battery. I kept the other bolt in place and swiveled the ecm as needed. I removed all of the cables as described in the instructions. I then took the fuse box off and unscrewed the clip that holds down the rear shock reservoir. I flipped the reservoir forward towards the air box and removed the screw that holds the seat pan to the frame. In retrospect, I'm not 100% sure I needed to remove that screw but I figured it would make it easier to slide the right side of the duct in that area. I then unbolted the two bolts holding on the preload adjustment knob. Again, I figured it would make it easier to negotiate the left side of the duct in that area. After that, I removed the fuse box and started to remove the battery bracket. That's when I found the stripped head on the rear right screw. I took the rest of the screws out and bent the entire bracket towards the back of the bike since I couldn't remove the last screw. This probably caused me some problems later on. I then cut the rubber drainage hose two size. I also cut the wire tire that held the looped reservoir tube in place. As I started the install, I was not 100 % sure how it fit in so I ran in the house and grabbed some photos of what the install looked like. At first, I kept flipping the rear shock reservoir forward and I tried to get the duct underneath of the reservoir. That was incorrect. After I noted that, I then started with the top part of the duct high above its final position (closer to the air box) and slowly inched it towards the back of the bike. I first popped the right side in place (checking the pictures for positioning). I then worked the left side in under the wires. Once the left and right side were in place, I inched the assembly towards the back of the bike until it was flush with the seat pan. Now the fun began. I manhandled the battery frame back into place. It was hard to get the holes to line up with the frame holes. I could not easily get the right front hole to line up and was not able to get the bolt in all of the way as the frame itself prevents getting a screw driver in and provide enough torque to screw it in through the two overlapping frame parts and into the frame. For some reason, the when I went to put the fuse box back on, it would not fully seat on the frame. I screwed on the tensioning knob, and then went to replace the seat pan frame screws. The screw that is located behind the shock reservoir was much harder to screw back in. I could no longer flip the reservoir up anymore since the hose is underneath the new comfort duct. Also since the ECM can only move so far, screwing this back on was made even harder. Again, I'm not 100% sure that this screw needs to be removed but I was able to get it back in. I was doing this solo so another set of hands might have helped. I then connected all of my wires, clamped down the reservoir and reconnected the battery. Popped the seat back on and fired the bike up. There seems to be a slight gap between the duct and the seat pan so I may put some duct tape in that gap later on. For the time being, I left my Special OPS Extreme heat blankets in place but from what I've read, I'll probably take them off as they won't be needed. So I'm happy it's done but it seemed harder than it had to be. | ||
| Paralegalpete |
Thank you, that was the kind of explanation I was looking for. Sounds like it was a PITA but still easier then removing the seat pan and bag mounts. I would apperciate any one elses details on the abbreviated installation  (Message edited by paralegalpete on September 07, 2009) (Message edited by paralegalpete on September 07, 2009) | ||
| Petereid |
Bag mounts take 5 minutes to remove. remove the 4 bots that go through the seat pan then loosen the ones at the passenger pegs and it swings down out of the way. Just as easy to put back up. Seat pan isn't hard to take out really. Whole job took me about 3 hours and that included walking back to the house for a couple of refills on my coffee and the assistance of a 2 1/2 year old grandson a few times  Sometimes a "shortcut" ends up being the long way. | ||
| Dr_greg |
Abbreviated installation? Hah! Sure, when I took everything off because I forgot a fastener  (ain't tellin' which) the job went a WHOLE lot faster the second time around...don't they always! Anyways, after a 90-mile ride in 85-degree temps (instead of the expected 500+ mile ride...a few honeydews got in the way) the verdict is TWO THUMBS UP!!! My right leg didn't know what to do without its customary blister...crikey, the left leg was almost hotter. Yessirree Bob. Thanks, BMC, for listening to our complaints yet again.  Now I'm all set for the BEAUTIFUL Northern New Mexico/Southern Colorado Fall Riding Season. I missed it last year, courtesy of a spark plug blowout. Hmmm, better cross my fingers at that. And no deer, either, dadgummit.  --Doc | ||
| Cpilot |
Very interesting... With only the Right-side air scoop installed and the updated ECM I did a quick ride yesterday out of Colorado Springs up to Hartsel, CO. Going from 6,000 feet to above 10,000 and back with a fairly spirited pace two up. Came to a stop in Hartsel (around 70 miles) and shut down and the fan didn't even come on. The outside temps were in the low 70's. I was concerned that the fan had gone out. So the next leg was down to Cannon City where the temps were in the 90's and when I shut down the fan came on as per normal, although for a much shorter time. Conclusion... Comfort kit and new ECM flash = big change. Now to install the fan duct. | ||
| Gs750t |
Installed the Comfort Kit today. Took about 3 hours. Biggest pain was lining up the carabou racks to reinstall. Had to gather my tools!!!  The header shield is one of the parts I like because it hide the blueing of the rear pipe!!  | ||
| Darthane |
OMG, the Beast, what the hell's the matter with you? | ||
| Etennuly |
I just ordered a kit for mine. Uh, does that mean I'm late to the party?  I think I will design a proper fitting cover for the RSS for winter use to sell on the open market. The price will be eight million dollars, each. When your money clears at my bank I will personally transport it to you, where ever you might be(limited to this planet of course). Do I have any takers??.....I only need to make two, one for you, and one for my bike. I will then retire, with my last working job being the delivery of said part to its new owner. It may even include help with the installation(if I'm not too busy).  | ||
| Rwven |
Just got back from having mine re-flashed at Lancaster HD/Buell in PA. First time I've used this dealer and I am favorably impressed. The tech rides a Buell (White XB9 Firebolt) and is really high on the brand. They charged $43.46 to do the job (1/2 hour labor + tax) which seems very reasonable to me. I couldn't give it a good test as it was pouring rain all the way up and back. I stopped for fuel on the way home and the fan didn't run, it didn't run when I got home either. Both times the fan was running as I rolled across the parking lot/driveway but as I was coming to a stop it shut down. I also noticed the fan running when riding at low speeds in town. My non-Buell riding buddies will be disappointed though, no more ragging on me about the fan. | ||
| Etennuly |
Installed mine in less that two hours, would likely been an hour and a half if the phone would have stopped ringing. I found a way to make a simple mistake on the simplest part. The pipe cover, as shown in the picture above, can be installed too far back. It touched the back of the frame and that screw bracket for the back of the RSS. But only when decelerating. Made it vibrate like the front isolator was bad, but I just changed that yesterday! Thought I would let you know if you get a bad vibe with the kit, I found a way to make it happen. Otherwise it fits, looks, and works well! And thanks to Moose at Liberty for the quick work on getting it to me, and for having the parts I needed in stock!  | ||
| Darthane |
Finally got mine yesterday, installed it today when I got home from work. Took just about two hours, following the instructions. Big thanks to whomever suggested just swinging the bag brackets down out of the way - putting those damned things back on was what I was really dreading. Now if I can just get the damned dealership to agree to do a reflash for a reasonable price and while I wait... Unfortunately a test will have to wait until tomorrow as Mr. Johnny Walker was kind enough to lend me a hand during the install.  | ||
| Jimmy_in_nc |
Put my deflector in tonight as I've been riding around with just the scoop and heat shield for the last two weeks. About an hour and a half. Never took the bag brackets down, never took the seat pan out. My plan of attack was as follows: Pulled the battery. Pulled the battery tray. Dropped the pre-load knob. Loosened the shock reservoir. Removed Air Box Cover - maybe didn't need to* Took the front two bolts for the black underseat pan out. Ohh yeah.. just removed the rear bolt on the ECM. From there I just gently worked the deflector into place. I was real pleased with it. Haven't had a chance to ride as I was enjoying some 'beverages' as I was wrenching in the shop. | ||
| Obuell1_kanoby |
Installed "THE KIT" before a 300+ mile trip to the Virginia mountains from the coast of NC.... Wow! what a difference & what a trip!! The fan came on after I arrived to my destination in Chilhowie, VA. Before it would come on frequently during shorter trips. Its well worth the $120, no doubt. now time for a front tire.....    | ||
| Pnw_uly |
Just got back from having mine re-flashed at Lancaster HD/Buell in PA. First time I've used this dealer and I am favorably impressed. The tech rides a Buell (White XB9 Firebolt) and is really high on the brand. They charged $43.46 to do the job (1/2 hour labor + tax) which seems very reasonable to me. Rwven (or anyone) - Quick question on the re-flash as I attempted to have mine done this last Saturday... Long story short, they couldn't "find" the comfort kit upgrade on their computer to do the re-flash; all they could pull up was the stock ECM codes. Today they should be calling Buell Tech for info, but if someone can give me info, I'll gladly pass it on to my shop. | ||
| Rwven |
Pnw uly, The tech did have some trouble finding the re-flash also, but he did find it. I don't have the code # here at work but if no-one else gets it to you first I can post it in about an hour when I get home. | ||
| Rwven |
The reflash "part #" is Y0152.1AM. The sales slip also shows a "Calibration ID" M31US261, I have no idea what that is. | ||
| Nvr2old |
Just to support Rwven, the Calibration ID applied to my '08 was also M31US261. | ||
| Pnw_uly |
Thanks for the info - - I'll help the Service Techs with this data tomorrow... Paul | ||
| Bartimus |
I couldn't see buying something that Buell should have built on the bike to begin with, so I improvised to keep my right leg cool...  I already had a RSS from American Sport Bike, but wasn't running it, afraid that I would void my warranty.  I envy you guys that have spent the money, but I can't justify it. IMO the bike should have come with the kit already installed. | ||
| Ratbuell |
IMO the bike should have come with the kit already installed. ....and now they do. "Product Improvement". In order to have that, you have to have a product out which, upon later scrutiny, has items that need to be improved in one way or another. That doesn't make it a bad product; it only means that long term collection of data has revealed not only a prior shortcoming, but also a way to fix it. Some things can't be identified in durability testing cycles. Some things take real life. Kudos to Buell for stepping up to the plate on this and many other items over the years, and making the needed improvements. Not only that, but for making them retrofittable (is that a word?) to prior units, instead of making them "new bike only - want it? buy a new one". | ||
| Uly_pirate |
Wow. Installed the rider comfort kit on my 2009 XT (2 hrs) and it immediately made a difference. Not only am I (the rider, hehehe) more comfortable (less heat) the fan never came on during this last week of commuting to work. I live in California (Bay Area) and last weeks commute was 55 deg in the morning up to 97 deg in the afternoon. Normally the fan would be going like gang busters by the time I pulled off the last stretch of highway after doing 70-90mph. Obviously for the rider the fan duct and the heat shield are what makes the difference. For the bike it's the RSS. Today I had the ECM updated and now the fan behaves completely different. It comes on frequently during normal driving. If it's running it shuts down when I come to a stop at an intersection. Also, it no longer runs after shutting the bike off, as other's have stated. This is a nice update since it prevents everyone from telling me I forgot to shut off my bike. :-) The tech told me that the fan will come on at 240 deg for short periods of time as compared to previously it was programmed to come on at 280 deg for long periods of time. Don't know if this is true, but that's what I was told. BTW, my calibration id is M31US261. Loved the bike before and love it more now. Thanks Buell or making this kit available. Great addition and recommend this for everyone. | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
Bartimus, I feel your pain but come on, you probably paid twice as much for that RSS I see in your photos. | ||
| Gsilvernale |
At least Buell improves their bikes every year. In comparison, look at the last generation KLR. 17 years and they never fixed the doohickey(Engine Idler Lever Counterbalance ). You had to order the doohickey from a aftermarket company, plus the tools and then install it yourself. Kawasaki still denies there is a problem. BTW - I have had multiple Kawasaki's in my life - good bikes - not a rant against Kawasaki - just that Buell behave's differently. | ||
| Pullmesideways |
Comfort Kit installed and it rocks. The downside is I didn't read this thread first. I made the mistake of taking that forward screw out of my ECM. I think the only way to get it back in is to take out he pan all over again. UGH! | ||
| Rwven |
The comfort kit and reflash really do the trick. I put over 600 miles on her this weekend and I left my right leg tucked into the frame the entire time. No heat issues at all. I also noticed that the bike idles smoother for some reason. The only downside is that she seems a bit thirstier, I'm down to the low 40's... |
