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Andrejs2112
Posted on Monday, August 10, 2009 - 08:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have been going through low beam bulbs faster than the gov't buys old cars. Have any idea why?
2006 Uly with 15k miles.
Thanks,
Andrejs
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Brag918
Posted on Monday, August 10, 2009 - 08:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Are you using stock or "brighter" bulbs?
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Teeps
Posted on Monday, August 10, 2009 - 08:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Low quality bulbs, voltage too high, vibration.

Are you having any other electrical problems?
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Maximum
Posted on Monday, August 10, 2009 - 09:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Can anyone say "Stator"?

That was one of my symptoms prior to my stator being diagnosed as bad.
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Snowscum
Posted on Monday, August 10, 2009 - 09:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Speaking of. Mine went out this weekend for the first time. 06 uly 15,500 miles.
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, August 10, 2009 - 09:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Funny thing is, I have always lost my bulbs in roughly 15k intervals. Stock, PIAA, and Silverstars. Almost at 15k on my HIDs, so we shall see.
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Andrejs2112
Posted on Monday, August 10, 2009 - 10:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Stock bulbs. No weird vibes to speak of, and yes, sometimes my signal indicator does not come on when the blinker is on. Other than that, all is normal.
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Jphish
Posted on Monday, August 10, 2009 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Short in the harness ? Heard of other 06' owners complain of this where it winds through the steering head. The intermittent signal could also be symptom of same ?? Just a guess. I've got an 08' - 06 owners... chime in.
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Andrejs2112
Posted on Monday, August 10, 2009 - 05:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's probably something major...leaving on a trip the 25th of this month. How much of a PITA is it to change a stator?
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, August 10, 2009 - 05:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Check your 77 connector first.

Replacing the stator isn't fun.
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Bjbauer
Posted on Monday, August 10, 2009 - 05:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mine just burned out too!
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Andrejs2112
Posted on Monday, August 10, 2009 - 05:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

77 conn is good.
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Tootal
Posted on Monday, August 10, 2009 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Check your voltage at the battery while running. Take it up to 5000 rpm and see what your reading is. If it's over 15 you will blow bulbs. Your regulator is bad. Why? Better check the stator, it probably toasted the regulator. It's a pita as you must pull your primary chain off which requires you to remove the clutch along with the stator magnets/front sprocket. Don't feel too bad, I changed the primary to the XB9 ratio and two weeks later the stator fried!! It went quicker the second time around!
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Rotorhead
Posted on Monday, August 10, 2009 - 06:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Maximum,

When your stator went south did the voltage regulator go with it??

I just had my stator go bad. I figured it was another VR but it wasn't. hoping the VR still works seeing that I just put a new one on. The batt seems to charge 14VDC output but still not confident in the thing.

BTW I was burning low beams up about every 6 months till I swapped out for the HID's.

+1 on the second time around on the removel of the primary the second time around. having all the tools around to do the job the second time was way faster.

(Message edited by rotorhead on August 10, 2009)
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Andrejs2112
Posted on Monday, August 10, 2009 - 07:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How about checking the stator per the manual instructions? How much is a new stator and regulator? Is that all I'll need to do the job?
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Gamdh
Posted on Monday, August 10, 2009 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

When I did mine last year, Stator Assy was about $128 and VR was about $70. You need something to lock the sprockets(Al sells them). I also needed a Primary gasket and new screws for the stator.

And yes. .check it per the SM, that how I determined I had a grounded stator after I thought it was the VR.

(Message edited by gamdh on August 10, 2009)

(Message edited by gamdh on August 10, 2009)
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Andrejs2112
Posted on Monday, August 10, 2009 - 07:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anyone have part numbers handy?
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Gamdh
Posted on Monday, August 10, 2009 - 08:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

29971-02Y Stator Assembly, 3-phase, 38 amp
Y0302.02A8 Voltage Regulator.

This is the orginal '06 part numbers. IIRC
they may have updated them for the new 77 connector, but not sure????
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Maximum
Posted on Monday, August 10, 2009 - 08:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rotorhead: When I had the headlight blowing issue, I thought that it was the VR, and I convinced the dealer of that and they squeezed me in late in the day to replace it for me (yes they had one in stock). But the next day I still had electric issues, so they did a full diagnosis, which showed the Stator was bad. I am pretty sure that my VR was bad anyway...so it all worked out. I think that I will always replace my VR when a new stator is required...it is worth the peace of mind.
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, August 10, 2009 - 08:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

29971-02YA is the newest Stator, not sure about the VR, from what I can tell that number above is obsolete and I don't have the replacement.
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Gamdh
Posted on Monday, August 10, 2009 - 08:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Froggy.. think this could be it?


VOLTAGE REGULATOR KIT W/CONNEC
Product ID: Y1302.02A8
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Andrejs2112
Posted on Monday, August 10, 2009 - 09:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ok,
Went out to the shop and did some tests from the manual.

Voltage output at battery: Max 14.36 V @ 5000 RPM.

Stator Check: No continuity between voltage reg. connector pins, and .3 ohms between pins on same connector.

AC output check: 32 VAC plus or minus at 2000 RPM.

What else can I check? Looks good to me.

Are the bright and lowbeam bulbs the same and the reflectors different? Would a bright bulb in the lowbeam side make a difference?

(Message edited by andrejs2112 on August 10, 2009)
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, August 10, 2009 - 09:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That is probably it. The only other one I found was a Y0302.5AA which is a 2008+ part number.
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Rotorhead
Posted on Monday, August 10, 2009 - 09:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Andrejs2112,
If you have any issues while your in the ADK area let me know. I rode around the area the other day and there is a perfect ULY loop from the Old forge area. little dirt, little twisties and little tarffic!!! BTW I have all the tools to do asatator job and a trailer IF you need it. I just did mine today.
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eastern ADKs.gpx (4.9 k)
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Andrejs2112
Posted on Monday, August 10, 2009 - 09:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks a lot. I appreciate the offer.
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Mad_doctor
Posted on Monday, August 10, 2009 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Andrejs, I'm in Denver right now, but if you need the manual, electrical manual, parts book, they are in the shop. Go through the double doors, and they are to the left. The first cabinet, (across from the door), there is a Fluke model 87v meter. The Black roller tool box has a plug in LED voltage meter, if you want to take it. it's really small and wont take up any room. Let me know if you need anything, and I'll call the wife, and tell her to have the shop unlocked.Good luck, on your trip. I had a little extra time today, and went to High Country HD, and met "Jammin Joules" He's a great guy, gave me the nickel tour, They have an awesome shop. I'll talk to you later, Tim
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Tootal
Posted on Monday, August 10, 2009 - 10:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Your numbers sound good, stator ok. Good for you. As far as the headlights, I had a bad ground wire at the terminal on the steering neck. I could just barely move the wires and the headlight would go out. Are you sure it's the bulb that's bad? I'm sure you have but I'm just brain storming here. I had to cut my ground wires and put them all in one big terminal and crimped her down. Some dielectric grease on the terminal along with some shrink wrap and all is well. With the stator and VR good I'm not coming up with any other ideas.

As far as the bulbs, they are the same with different reflectors.

(Message edited by tootal on August 10, 2009)
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Andrejs2112
Posted on Monday, August 10, 2009 - 10:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tim,
I appreciate the offer. I have a manual and a Fluke. The numbers look good as far as I can tell. The owner of GL H-D is up here this week. My friend is going to introduce me to him. Looking forward to meeting him. I'll tell him I know you. Have fun in Denver.
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Andrejs2112
Posted on Monday, August 10, 2009 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tootal,
The bulbs are burned out. The filaments were broken. They were used bulbs, but I don't think they were that used. Thanks for the thoughts.
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Andrejs2112
Posted on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 07:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I forgot to mention...Just the low beams are burning out. The high beam is ok. Why would that be? Wouldn't they both go if the current was too high?
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