| Author | Message | ||
     Glen |
anyone know if there's a spark arrester made for the uly? here in michigan it is illegal to ride on state owned lands or national forest lands without having a USFS approved spark arrester. big ole ticket if caught without one. | ||
| Rotorhead |
I thought any DOT reverse flow muffler met the USFS standards even if it is not stamped. If they didn't many jeeps and ORV's would have to meet the spark arrestor standard. The only link I found to the USFS to get any info was broke. http://www.fs.fed.us/fire/prev_ed/spark/sag-index. html | ||
| Glen |
all i know is that if it isnt stamped, they will stick somthing into your tailpipe, if it goes in farther than a few inches yer busted. on older bikes i could use a sparky made by cobra, but that would get ripped off the uly, lightning fast. | ||
| Petereid |
all i know is that if it isnt stamped, they will stick somthing into your tailpipe wow, that seems a little harsh | ||
| Ulyranger |
I believe that USFS code is for "off-road" vehicles and further believe any over the highway vehicle with approved, OEM exhaust system is well within the parameters.... The Uly is a road bike in design and intent afterall, regardless of how we utilize it. Are they testing every single motor vehicle out in State/Nat'l forests there? Seems like it would be VERY labor intensive. Does any street bike carry the USFS stamp? (True DSs excluded of course) Of course if you modify or change your Uly exhaust to non-OEM all bets are off..... (Message edited by ulyranger on May 05, 2009) | ||
| Glen |
What Is an Off-Road Vehicle (ORV)? Michigan law defines an ORV as any motor vehicle that can be operated cross-country (without benefit of a road or trail) over land, snow, and other natural terrain. This includes multi-track or multi-wheel vehicles; all-terrain vehicles (ATVs); motorcycles or related multi-wheel vehicles; amphibious machines (water-to-land and back); hovercrafts; and other vehicles that use mechanical power, including 2- or 4-wheel-drive vehicles that are highway registered but operated off highways or off roads. The following are not considered ORVs by Michigan law: registered snowmobiles; farm, construction, or logging vehicles when being used in usual work practices; and military, fire, emergency, and law enforcement vehicles. Do Michigan's ORV laws apply to all ORVs? Yes! Michigan laws about off-road vehicles apply to all off-road vehicles, regardless of their size, type, or engine size. However, some Michigan laws may apply only to ORV operators of certain ages. The ORV must be equipped with the following. Braking System: A braking system in good working condition that operates by either hand or foot Throttle System: A throttle system designed to return the engine speed to idle automatically and immediately when pressure is released Spark Arrester and Muffler: A U.S. Forest Service–approved spark arrestor and muffler in good working condition, in constant operation, and meeting applicable sound-level standards (see "Sound Emission Regulations") Seating: Designed, manufactured seating for each passenger Lights: If operated during the hours of one-half hour after sunset to one-half hour before sunrise, must have and display all of the following: A lighted headlight A lighted taillight A brake light, brighter than the taillight http://www.offroad-ed.com/mi/handbook/index.htm (Message edited by glen on May 06, 2009) | ||
| Glen |
funny thing is, ive been checked on my bikes while open header 4x4's slide by sideways with empty beer cans fallin out.  | ||
| Ulyranger |
What kind of bikes were you checked on in the past? Usually traditional off road bikes, trikes and quads are what's checked from my experience(non-Mich). If I road an 05 Ninja 250 down a Mich truck trail/fire road would I be checked? Or let go with the drunk idiots in the raised jeeps and 36" mudders? I realize enforcement of this type is usually "targeted" hence my questioning. No one here does much checking, and only on true off road equipment when it does happen. BTW, nothing in that section you posted eliminates your Uly stock, OEM exhaust IMO. Mentions "USFS approved", do you know for a fact that it is not? Street bikes are rarely labeled this way because of their design, intent.......who is going to take a 500lbs bike with 17" wheels onto the fire roads??  | ||
| Glen |
ive always been on dirt bikes when checked. to hell with it, imma just roll with it the way it sits.(insert the riding dirty song) if i get a ticket i'll keep it as a trophy from the day i hit woops on a buell... | ||
| Ulyranger |
I think you're golden, tell 'em I said so.  | ||
| Rotorhead |
I'd ask the forest ranger to show you the USFS stamp on the truck he drove up on!! | ||
| Arcticktm |
Glen, I lived and road off-road in MI for decades, including running Carolina Corner Carvers events and Bentwheels events where I had to do sound and silencer checks. This is a case where the law does not keep up with the times. It is written fro dirt bikes, though it does not call it that way. I know they enforce it by looking for the "USFS Approved" stamped on the can, and of course, no street only vehicle has this. Worst case, you have to put up with an illogical DNR officer, and fight the ticket, with a pretty good chance of winning. Some old guys actually made a "USFS Approved" stamp themselves, and thus started the LEO practice of using a stick to see if there was actually a screen or other device in the muffler. Maybe the Uly curved outlet would be too sharp for a straight stick! Come to think of it, my 2001 KTM 640 came street legal, and I do not recall it having the stamp. I would not think twice about riding it again off-road. It is a stock Supertrapp system, so it would pass the "stick" test. |
