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Geopatr
Posted on Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 12:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've searched but can't find anybody having the same problem.I have a 06 Uly with 24000kms.I have a intermittent problem with the neutral light. When it isn't there the bike will not start.: ( The bike is in neutral but no light. Try to start and it and it will not go!!Tried with the clutch in or out and still no go!! When the light re appears the bike starts!!
Any kind of advise would be appreciated. : )
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Treadmarks
Posted on Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have the iffy light, but no problems starting yet.
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Bud
Posted on Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 01:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

did you check your Diode in the fuse box ?

is it in the right direction ?
is it corroded ?
( now your going to ask what's the right direction ,,hade to check that.. arrow on the diode pointing to the left side off the bike )

gr, bud
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Geopatr
Posted on Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 01:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

did you check your Diode in the fuse box ?

is it in the right direction ?
is it corroded ?
( now your going to ask what's the right direction ,,hade to check that.. arrow on the diode pointing to the left side off the bike


Thanks, But the problem just started and it is intermittent. I've never had the fuse box opened nor have I ever touch the diode. But You never know. I'll check. : )
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Sanchez
Posted on Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 05:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It won't start even with the clutch in? There's a sensor to tell the bike when it's in neutral. The neutral light (and neutral start) won't work without it, but you should still be able to start the bike by pulling the clutch in.
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Geopatr
Posted on Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 06:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It won't start even with the clutch in? There's a sensor to tell the bike when it's in neutral. The neutral light (and neutral start) won't work without it, but you should still be able to start the bike by pulling the clutch in.
No it wont. That is what I thought too. But when the green light appears it starts!!: (
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Chrisrogers3
Posted on Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 08:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I may be way out in left field here but couldnt the ECM be causing these issues?

When you turn your ignition on do your gauges run through their self test? (try with the engine kill switch off)

Now turn the kill switch on, does your fuel pump come on?

I would think if one of those things get interrupted that it wouldnt start and it would be due to an ECM issue.

Again I am just guessing here but I would try that.
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Geopatr
Posted on Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 11:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I may be way out in left field here but couldnt the ECM be causing these issues?

When you turn your ignition on do your gauges run through their self test? (try with the engine kill switch off)

Now turn the kill switch on, does your fuel pump come on?

I would think if one of those things get interrupted that it wouldnt start and it would be due to an ECM issue.

Again I am just guessing here but I would try that.

All aspects are as they should. That is the frustrating part. No green light, no start. Green light reappears and we have ignition. : )
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Sanchez
Posted on Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 11:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well, I guess the most obvious first thing to check is the neutral sensor. Make sure the wire's firmly connected and hasn't worn through or something. I assume the bike would still start with the clutch even if the neutral sensor wasn't plugged in, but I don't know that for a fact.

If you start the bike and the neutral light vanishes afterward, does the bike stay running?
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2008 - 12:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Did you drill holes in your ECM when trying to relocate your plate? : )
http://www.zxforums.com/forums/zx-6r-forum/14462-f i-light-need-help.html
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Bud
Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2008 - 02:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

bike should start with clutch lever pulled in,
that's the connection for me to think of diodes in the start security system

so a few options,
1. neutral switch is bad ( almost certen )
2. clutch lever switch is bad ( perhaps )
3. diode not good or wrong placed ( perhaps )
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