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Darthane
Posted on Monday, July 07, 2008 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

...I apparently lost the left lower windshield mount on the way home from Wisconsin. I thought it was bouncing around a little more than it had been. ...guess it didn't like crosswind gusts while scooting along at 80MPH.

Has anyone else had one of these things pop off on them? I'm going to replace it with the same part this time, but if it happens again (or seems to be a common occurrence) then I'm going to come up with something a little more permanent.

That was my only real issue on the bike's maiden voyage, though. It didn't want to shift down a couple times at stop lights, I'll be in the primary later today. I picked it up on Monday, ran around Michigan Tuesday to put some break-in miles on it, and then was off to Wisconsin Wednesday for Homecoming. I think I'm a little over 1500 miles after getting home last night. =D
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Monday, July 07, 2008 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mine didn't want to shift when it was new either.
I took away some of the clutch cable's slack and the shifting got a bit better.
Lubing the little heim joints a bit helps too.
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Brazeau
Posted on Monday, July 07, 2008 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Windshield mounts: Yep. The lower left side too.

The "tech" ordered up some kind of doo-hickey that retains the mount from the inside. From my conversation with him, I gathered that it wasn't altogether uncommon.

DB
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Ulybrew
Posted on Monday, July 07, 2008 - 07:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

He Darthane,

Yep, mine was on the right hand side. I replaced it with an M6 socket head cap screw and a washer. I have been thrashing the dealer for not having the parts book so "we" can order a new one. The spacer-washer is the key here. The screw is common. I am real close to just machining some new ones and anodizing them Red.
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Darthane
Posted on Monday, July 07, 2008 - 08:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah, I took a closer look at it when I got home this afternoon, and all I'm missing is the bolt and spacer, not the wellnut.

I'll order a pair of them (along with that undertail bag and a service manual. Speaking of which, they told me that all the XB bikes are now in one service manual for 08? Is that actually true?) tomorrow when I pick up the gaskets and oils for my 1K service. The right lower was pretty damned loose as well, so I'm thinking maybe they were just never very tight to begin with and that's why one decided to skedaddle on me.
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Petereid
Posted on Monday, July 07, 2008 - 08:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

have the same problem with mine. I pulled my windshield yesterday until i can make it to the dealer. I might also look for a plain flyscreen with out the mounting holes for a windshield.
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, July 07, 2008 - 08:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yes all XB in 1 book. Uly still has a seperate parts book. : )


99490-08YA 2008 BUELL XB SERVICE MANUAL Retail Price:$60.00

Make sure you get the one with the "A" at the end, thats the newer one
that has the XT. The one without the "A" does not have the XT.

99575-08YA 2008 BUELL ULYSSES PARTS CATALOG

Same deal with the "A" : )
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Longdog_cymru
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 08:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a set of Palmer Mounts for sale in the classified section on here if anyone is interested????
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Darthane
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 09:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah, I'd be interested, Longdog. The wind buffeting on the trip out and back was pretty awful with the stock tall screen that came on the XT.

PM sent momentarily.
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Ulyranger
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 12:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That's funny, I just lost my lower left screen mount for my XT this morn as well... I was cruising about a mile from my house and thought I felt something hit the top of my foot and thought......did I leave something lying on the bike? Wasn't till later in the day that I noticed the screw and washer missing.

I've had my shield on/off many times and usually try to tighten them properly each time so I guess they just vibrate loose. An interesting side note is that the screen was not put on properly at setup because they left they regular grommets in the flyscreen then inserted the long screen ones inside, doubled up like. I thought the angle was a little low and the screen awful floppy, loose. So I removed the clip type grommets from the flyscreen and put the threaded ones in their place. Everything was peachy till this morning.....
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Darthane
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 07:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They wanted to make me pay for 10 of each at the stealership (minimum order) - screw that. I'll be hitting the hardware store this week to replace them both.

...I'll probably get a set of Strada's mounts before too long anyway.
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Bartimus
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 07:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i lost mine at around 450 miles. They ARE a bit pricey.
at 6400 miles, mine is STILL hard to shift. I brought it into Hals during homecomming for the 5000 mile service and think i got a $350 oil change, nothings different. Still misses and surges.
definitly use loctite when replacing the windshield bolts...
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Xbimmer
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Part No. 57739-07Y, Windscreen Mounting Hardware Kit, Lower.

This is what came with my Factory Tall Shield. They come with Nylock-type lock nuts that never gave me a problem.

Are XT's shields using plain nuts under there? And how come you guys are having to pay for factory installed parts that fall off of new bikes???
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Darthane
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm sure if I pressed the issue, I could get them for free, but honestly I hate spending time in a dealership, period, and I'm just not too interested in putting the same thing on if it's just going to happen again.

There are no lock nuts on the XT's windshield. The upper mounts are the same pressure-fits that the X windshield uses in all 4 locations, the lower ones are a deep rubber wellnut with an anodized bolt and matching spacer/washer.

Perhaps that hardware kit is what I SHOULD order, sounds somewhat more permanent. As for Loctiting the bolts into the well-nuts, that worries me because then I might not ever get the damned things back out!

On a side note, I completely removed my windshield until I could replace the bolt and MAN, what a difference that made. More overall wind pressure on my upper body, but no more freaking ROARING.
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Dano_12s
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

When cleaning my shield the lower mounts popped out of the cover.I just added large flat washers+locktite.No more worries!
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Petereid
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 06:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I called my dealer today to get a new rubber/nut combo as thats what failed on mine. Not only didn't they have one, but they didn't even have a parts book to look it up in!!!! Perhaps this is a sign of whats to come lol
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Redwing
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 06:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Lower mounting
screw A06035.5CVB
washer M0252.1AV
well nut M0251.1AV
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Xbimmer
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 10:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well this is all interesting.

The Buell Tall shield that I ordered and waited months for back in '06 (due to a recall to fix the problem of the original Talls pulling out of the flyscreen) arrived with the mounting kit I mentioned. Other than my personal dissatisfaction with the shield itself, the new post-recall shield's lower mounts ensure that they stay put.

There is no rubber in these fasteners, they bolt through a sleeve and through the same type grommet in the flyscreen as the upper pins push into. The locknuts do not loosen, in fact you really need the hex key in the bolt to hold it to unscrew the nut.

You XT guys are getting a well nut to replace the grommet and sleeved bolt/washer/Nylok nut?

Geez, after recalling the '06 Talls, why would they go cheap on the XT's?
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Pullmesideways
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 08:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have had my ULY for a week and 1000+ miles and my first rubber grommets failed. Then while I was on the road, A Pikeville H-D Buell hooked me up with some replacements (they took these off a current XT they had in stock) That was pretty cool of them but, the new ones are already failing again.

Due to the failed bushings the wind screen keeps rubbing against the fly screen. So my windshield and fly screen are all scratched up.

Looks like I need to set up an appointment with my selling dealer when I get back home, to see if there was a better solution.
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Darthane
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 09:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here's another question related to this:

As mentioned earlier, I've simply removed my windshield entirely for the time being, and honestly I like the look of the bike without it and the wind roar/helmet buffeting is greatly reduced.

...has anyone found an aesthetically pleasing way to plug the four holes in the fascia?
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Nevrenuf
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 09:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

haven't done it yet but i was gonna see if a car door panel plug would work.
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Xbimmer
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here's a pic that may help:


Tall Shield Kit and plugs


The plugs I found at the hardware store, I think they're 5/8" and snap into the flyscreen once you remove the grommets. Even on Barricade they don't look so bad black, but could be painted.
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Xbimmer
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just noticed something. The pic above is the extra kit I ordered when I decided to run a Laminar Lip and stock shield instead of the tall, I didn't want to replicate the original problem. Didn't need to, the Lip works fine with no tendency to yank the shield away, even at 100+.

The part #94485Y differs from the part #57739-07Y which is the part # on the instruction sheet that came with my Tall Shield. I dunno why, they're the same parts...
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Darthane
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 11:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bimmer - just looking at that picture, I'm confused as to what actually holds the windshield out away from the flyscreen. Were the smoooth gray spacers intended to fit through the original X pressure-fit bushings?

Thanks for the tip on the plugs, I'll have to see if I can dig something like that up at the local hardware place when I go in for replacement bolts/washers.
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Xbimmer
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 02:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Were the smoooth gray spacers intended to fit through the original X pressure-fit bushings?

Yes. You're welcome on the plugs!
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Darthane
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 06:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Longdog - I've been trying to reach you for a couple days now. Your mailbox is full.

Please get back to me, or if anyone knows an alternate method for reaching this user, please let me know. I purchased the Palmer brackets he was selling, but I have no idea if he received notification of the payment or not since it would have gone to the same e-mail address.
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Rwven
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 10:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Overtightening the stock lower XT sheild mounts pulls the brass insert from the rubber expansion sleeve. I had mine come apart down at Deals Gap last weekend. I was able to scab it together with a couple of 1/4" fender washers. I think the stock mounts would be fine, but folks need some kind of guide as to how many turns to tighten the screw after it initially seats.
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Gkostolny
Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 12:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I lost the lower left bolt as well. The dealer replaced it under warranty. Then a few days later the entire windshield flew off at 80 on the freeway and hit me in the head.

They replaced the entire front piece (colored & windshield) with the set off their demo bike. No problems since then.

-gabe
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Darthane
Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 06:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

BUMP.

Longdog - I've been trying to reach you for a couple days now. Your mailbox is full.
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Bobmcc
Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 07:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

pullme said: the wind screen keeps rubbing against the fly screen

I have the '06 tall, recall bolts in the bottom, push-ins on top. I added a black rubber grommet midway between the upper push-ins to keep the windshield from rubbing on the flyscreen. Aesthetically it looks like a fifth mounting point. A dab of rubber cement keeps it it place.
-Bob
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Hotrod54
Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The palmer brackets are the way to go. I have a set and can't believe that Buell hasn't come up with something similar. They adjust up and down and forward and back three different positions. They bolt to the cowl and there is room to clean under them. I love them, much better ride.
Hotrod54
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Darthane
Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

BUMP

Longdog - if I haven't heard back from you by the end of the week I'll be forced to do a recall on the payment.

Your mailbox is full.
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Rwven
Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 03:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Are the original style still available? I think they would be just fine if not over torqued.
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