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No_rice
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 10:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dear Buell Dealers:

Buell Motorcycle Company is excited to announce the latest edition to the Buell family, the Ulysses Police XB12XP! This announcement is being made early to allow our dealers to start engaging customers and taking orders now for this exciting new product. Given their often extended procurement cycle, this early release information will allow public agencies to properly plan for the addition of a Buell Ulysses Police to their fleet later in the year. The new Ulysses Police will be available as a 2009 model-year vehicle, and production is due to begin in August.

Shown as a concept vehicle at January's Winter Dealer Meeting, the Ulysses Police offers government agencies and private security firms a quick and nimble special duty patrol vehicle that is capable of travel over a variety of terrain, from open highways to city streets to unpaved back-country roads.

XB12XP Ulysses Police Product Contents and Features
Based on the versatile Buell Ulysses adventure sportbike, the Ulysses Police features long-travel suspension, generous ground clearance and aggressive tires that allow it to tackle roads too rough or narrow for confident travel in an automobile or on a traditional police motorcycle. On smooth pavement, the Ulysses Police is an agile sport motorcycle. The Ulysses Police can also accommodate a passenger.

Special features of the Ulysses Police include new hard-shell top and side cases, each removable and lockable. The side cases are narrower than the standard Ulysses XB12XT side cases, allowing for more clearance in tight situations. On the Ulysses Police model the Buell Triple Tail system functions as a luggage rack with tie-down hooks over the rear seat position, or as a cushioned passenger backrest with grab rails. A tall windshield, heated hand grips, and wind deflectors are also standard equipment.

Available for the Ulysses Police through P&A is an Emergency Response kit offering 3 different lighting color options. This package includes a siren system and LED emergency lighting ready for true plug-and-play dealer installation. The lighting package is available in 3 options: All red LEDs, combination red and blue LEDs, or all blue LEDs. We estimate the dealer installation time for the complete emergency equipment kit to be approximately two hours.

The Ulysses Police will be offered in two color choices: Birch White and Midnight Black.

Buell Ulysses Police XB12XP highlights

Buell Thunderstorm 1203 V-Twin engine
103 peak hp @ 6800 rpm (per SAE J607)
84 ft. lbs. peak torque @ 6000 rpm (per SAE J607)
Buell InterActive Exhaust
DDFI 3 Electronic Fuel Injection ECM
Eight-row oil cooler with Jiffy-tite fittings
Dry Weight: 480 pounds fully up-fitted with Emergency Lighting Kit
Wheelbase: 54 inches (unladen)
Pirelli Scorpion Sync tires
Fully adjustable 47mm Showa inverted fork
Fully adjustable Showa rear shock absorber with remote reservoir
Buell ZTL front brake
Double front fender design
Goodyear Hibrex drive belt with Flexten Plus technology
Quick-release tall windscreen
Frame pucks
Handlebar deflectors
Triple Tail System (tailrack/backrest)
4.4 gallon fuel capacity
Functional tool kit
2 x 12v. power outlets
Heated hand grips
Police-specific wiring harness
Siren and LED pursuit light package (LED lighting options include Red/Red, Red/Blue, and Blue/Blue)
Removable locking top and side cases
Birch White and Midnight Black bodywork colors
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Towjam
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 10:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wonder if the thinner side cases would be available for purchase for non-LEO customers...? I'd like to be able to swap 'em out depending on my storage needs for a given trip.
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pics or it didn't happen!
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Ratbuell
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's real. Found it on H-Dnet.com....might have to trade my FLHP Road King Police on the Uly Police, LOL.

Gonna try and strongarm my GM into ordering one on Tuesday...purely for research and police demo purposes, of course!
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No_rice
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

it is a dealer communication so no pics sorry! i wouldnt mind seeing some either, but somewhere on here i thought there were some pics of a uly done up as a cop bike?
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Towjam
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 10:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

While I think it's cool to see Buell entering this market, I'm not optimistic we're going to see departments picking the Uly over the HD or BMW agency bikes.

As hot as HDs get, I can't imagine sitting on an idling Uly in the Texas summer. I'm also curious as to what (if any) upgrades Buell will need to make to the electrical system.

And where will you mount your machine gun?
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Ratbuell
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://www.advrider.com/forums/attachment.php?s=13 d3fa38d02d685abdc00177276f83e7&attachmentid=126406 &stc=1&d=1185399402.jpg
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Towjam
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 10:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

one more comment and I promise I'll shut up (for now)...

Buell obviously believes in the durability of these bikes to put 'em out on the agency bid lists. This also indicates that the XB line isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

Woo hoo!
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Strokizator
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The sheriff's dept around here uses DRZ's and the Uly might be a better bike for the job. Definitely would look a lot cooler.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And where will you mount your machine gun?

Same place you do on an HD or BMW - at the other end of the radio. lol.

I think it has a good chance against the BMWs. Similar performance, similar riding style/position, and MUCH better maintenance schedule and parts supply. Ever try to replace a clutch on an RT/P?
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Gotj
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 11:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Towjam asked:

"I wonder if the thinner side cases would be available for purchase for non-LEO customers...? I'd like to be able to swap 'em out depending on my storage needs for a given trip."

Check out these links plus other side cases listed on the site. Can go down to 30 liters per case.

http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/2 643/335/

http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/6 33/335/
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Miamiuly
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I took that pic that Ratbuell linked.

I think I can post more of these pics now, it was back in July but the guys were nervous of me posting the pics and them somehow getting in trouble.







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Miamiuly
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And



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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Check out that RSS! : )
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No_rice
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i had it on the quick board too for those who never make it over here.
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/406 2/363021.html?1211471759
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Smpl5
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 12:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Gotj wrote:
"Check out these links plus other side cases listed on the site. Can go down to 30 liters per case.

http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/2 643/335/

http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/6 33/335/"

It looks like these cases would use the same mounting rack (he says naively) ...

It would be cool if they were briefcase-size ... I'll have to check dimensions. I only use the top case for my commute, and the briefcase doesn't really fit so it gets bungeed. Lane splitting is not legal in PA, but the narrower clearance w/o sidebags is helpful in some situations to ease my commute, never mind avoiding the fuel economy penalty
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Gotj
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

FYI re: dimensions, the Juniors are about 3" (8 cm) narrower than the Buell Journeys.

Check this link (towards the bottom)for a side-by-side picture of the 40- and 30-liter Junior cases:

http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/6 33/182/

Go to the H-B web site for all of the dimensions.

Want narrower, get some Pelican cases and fab a mounting system.
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Gotj
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 01:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Strakyer may be what you are looking for:

http://hepco-becker.de/_eng/frameset.php
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Bienhoabob
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 02:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)





Looking at the side cases, it looks like they dumped the bike a few times.

(Message edited by bienhoabob on May 22, 2008)
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Miamiuly
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 03:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

He was joking (had a smiley) and it is a siren.

Very soft dirt down that trail, I followed for one run and it was a little dicey but I had no problem.

It was a little out of the 10% off road thing, but they were considering it for rescue use after hurricanes and the like.

Sort of like the Daytona Beach FD and their HD baggers at Bikeweek but able to get around and over debris instead of through traffic. If that makes sense.

I have no idea if they bought any Ulys (Uli?) or went with something like a klr or what happened.

(Message edited by miamiuly on May 22, 2008)
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Wbrisett
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 05:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think the only thing that will prevent this bike from being sold to a lot of police will be the lack of ABS brakes. One of the reasons HD put ABS on their police bikes was because contracts required it for police bikes. No ABS, no sale. It should be noted that Yamaha, and Honda also have police bikes, but they don't sell very many of them. HD and BMW own the lion's share of the market.

Wayne
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Teddagreek
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 06:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ABS.....

Risk Management for city I work for will not allow non ABS bikes..

They updated the fleet two years ago because of this..

Motorcycles from what I understand are usually leased, Some how its cheaper?


Like wayne Said, no ABS no Sale!
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Nevrenuf
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 08:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i was told they lease the bikes in tampa area for 1 dollar just as long as they get the maintenance work on them.
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Maximum
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 08:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That is good news because I'm sure Buell knows that many public organizations require ABS...therefore the new feature for the 2009 Uly is.....A B S !!!

Although I'll be sticking with my '06 Uly!
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Genoa
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 08:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Did anyone notice the black cylinder heads as well as the black gear cover and foot pegs? Nice theme.
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Miamiuly
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Did anyone notice the black cylinder heads as well as the black gear cover and foot pegs? Nice theme.

the official pic is sharp, nice little changes.

And it has the new clutch cable holder too.
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Hooper
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 10:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It would be an honor to be pulled over by that Uly. Especially if I was riding mine.

Seriously, those Miami test photos really got me cised!
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, May 23, 2008 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ABS is required by *some* contracts, not all.

Many motormen prefer non-ABS bikes. They're trained to slide the bike in certain situations, and ABS won't let you do that. Motormen (and women) are trained to brake at the threshold...so ABS becomes less of an issue than it is on a civilian bike (with civilian "training").

I wouldn't count on ABS being on the Uly just because of the LEO contracts....
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, May 23, 2008 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Looking at the offical picture, I can't tell if they're totally different bags, or just flat lids. I'm hoping for flat lids, but the latching is totally different so it may not be an easy "S2-ish" narrow/wide bag swap.

Also, looking at the front fender and it's clearance to the forks, and the relationship of the fork protectors to the dust seal (height-wise) it looks like it may be the XT suspension with the X fender set? But the spec says 47mm, which would imply X forks...hmmm....

It also looks to be a non-ABS bike. The front brake line follows the same contours/routing from MC to caliper, no signs of a "detour" to the tail section for a motor/pump setup. The FLs have a total detour for all the lines between the levers and the calipers, to go to a pump set under the side cover.

(Message edited by ratbuell on May 23, 2008)
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Towjam
Posted on Friday, May 23, 2008 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Count me as one of those who would like to see Buell offer ABS for their consumer bikes.
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