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Bearly
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here's my Zumo installation that I did last year. I tried to keep it low with the provided ram mount to protect it from rocks.


Side View of Zumo


But keep it far enough to the side to give me a good view of the at least the tack and the turn signal, low fuel and other idiot lights. With the Zumo, your speed is usually visible so I didn't mind not being able to see the extreme left that gage.

Zumo view looking forward

Note the Max Speed on the display. I was going down hill!

It's been on there now for 12000 miles. It doesn't move or slip. The only bad thing is the little rubber contact cover rotted off the mount from Sun light. (bad choice of materials)


(Message edited by bearly on April 07, 2008)
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Supertoon
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 01:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks alot Jack! Thanks to your post I learned new stuff and unfortunately confirmed some stuff I already knew. In reality if you could just pan and zoom by turnng/pressing the mouse wheel life with mapsource would be alot better. You made some interesting and useful points that I will surely apply to my next routing session!
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Supertoon
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bearly, I guess I'm not the only one to horse around with a zumo on a airplane. Try searching for a restaurant at 40 000 ft, that can be impressive as well!
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Galloper
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 04:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I used this setup:



But I went Touratech

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Ahowudoon
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 09:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just got my RAM mount and my wiring together for the install of my Garmin 2610. I have the kit to hard wire it in, but the instructions are painfully vague. Any tips on where to splice in the Garmin wiring kit? It comes with about a mile of wire, so it looks like I can go wherever I want. I have the windscreen off now as I also had to replace my right heated grip. While it's all opened up, I hoped to get the GPS wired in too.

Any tips/pics would be most appreciated.
Thanks.
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Gotj
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 09:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wired my 2610 directly to the battery terminals. The 2610 doesn't have a battery and I didn't want it shutting down every time I turned off the bike. You DO have to remember to turn it off at the end of a ride but I have left mine on overnight with no ill effects on the battery. I don't know what leaving it on for a week would do though.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 09:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

For the record, don't hook up a Quest that way. The 2610 is happy taking full battery voltage, but that'll blow a Quest.

The Garmin site makes it pretty hard to tell which is which in terms of allowable voltage inputs.
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Naboyd
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 10:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had a Quest hooked directly to my battery on a '06 ULTRA for about 8,000 miles and a '06 XB12X for about 6,000 miles... No issues.
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Strmvt
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 10:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

got my Zumo directly connected to my 12R battery and havnt had a problem with it yet
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Wbrisett
Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 05:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

For the record, don't hook up a Quest that way. The 2610 is happy taking full battery voltage, but that'll blow a Quest.

The Buell/Garmin Quest plugs into the front of the bike. That connector according to the Buell wiring diagram, comes from the aux switch, which is fed directly from the battery via a 10 amp fuse. No step down, so it's the full 12v. The only thing I would recommend (and it's on the garmin) is a fuse on the power line.

Wayne
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 08:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I apologize, I should have been more specific.

If you are using the Garmin / Buell motorcycle mount and associated wiring, you can wire *that* directly to the battery, no problem. I believe those setups have the built in 12V to 5V converter, just like the Quest car adapter does.

Without the 5v regulator, it is my understanding you will kill a quest if you try and run it off 13.2 volts directly. I'd love to find out I am wrong, but I am not experimenting on my Quest.

If you ping out the Quest AC adapter or car adapter connector, you will find it is 5V regulated.
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Jackbequick
Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 11:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bill is right about the Quests, they get their 5V source from the the base they mount on. The zumos are the same way.

RAM sells a mount for the Quests that includes the 12V to 5V DC-DC adapter. If you have to mount a Quest and don't have any of the Garmin hardware, the RAM mount is a good way to go:

http://www.gpscity.com/ramholqp1

The power and audio adapter can also be purchased as a separate component (all the RAM stuff is very modular):

http://www.gpscity.com/ramqpac1

RAM also sells a replacement power source/mounting cradle for the zumos. If it is like the rest of the RAM stuff, don't be surprised if it is better than Garmin's stuff:

http://www.gpscity.com/garmin-mounts/f=zumo+550

If you want to use a zumo on multiple vehicles or bikes, the extra mounts would be a good way to go.

Jack
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Seanp
Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 11:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Um, that Zumo mount in the third link is a Garmin mount.
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Ahowudoon
Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 01:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for all the info.
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99cyclone
Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 07:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I gutted an old cell phone car charger to get the 12V to 5V converter and use that to power my Quest. It isn't pretty, but it works well and didn't cost me anything.
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Jackbequick
Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 10:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I knew that RAM was the supplier for at least part of the Garmin mounts. I was not sure that they would be identical but am not surprised that they are. If nothing else, you can save $15.05 by not buying it from Garmin.

https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?pID=1559

Most of Garmin's bicycle/motorcycle mounts are lightweight plastic and border on junk, the zumo mounts are the exception to that. The RAM stuff is very good.

Jack
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Jammin_joules
Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 10:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is the Zumo Blue-tooth enabled?

Large ear pieces that are hard wired for the audio portion don't work for me. The head sets with slim ear pieces for using a cell phone via blue tooth would work great if the Zumo has blue tooth.

~jammer
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Strmvt
Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Joules yes the Zumo is BT enabled I pair it to my Cell ph and my Scala headset to it and answer my ph and hear the gps over the headset
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F_skinner
Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for this thread. I have been toying with the idea of attaching a GPS to the S2, although getting lost on a S2 is half the fun. I was looking at the Buell Garman unit because I wanted the Buell label and I don't know enough about them to really know the difference in capability and what I need. I like the display of the Zumo and will research that as well. Although I know a little bit about GPS theory and signals I have only seen one GPS unit in action and that was in a car.

Jammin, next time I am up your way maybe you can give me a quick demo of the Buell unit if you carry them in stock. I imagine I would have to come up with a mounting system that will fit the S2 (handle bar diameter is larger than the Uly). Once I see one in action I will be able to figure out what I need or want.

It sure would have come in handy in the truck when I went to MBV as I did make a couple of wrong turns.

Anyway, I am thankful that you all are discussing the pros and cons of each unit.

Frank
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Wbrisett
Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 02:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would have to come up with a mounting system that will fit the S2 (handle bar diameter is larger than the Uly).

The Buell unit actually uses the brake fluid cylinder bracket. There is a lot of slack in that on the Uly, I'm not sure where they put that on the S2, but you might be able to use it as is.

If you have to work on modifying the mount, you might be better served by simply using one of the other GPS units and brackets. GPS units really have come a long way in the past couple of years and the Quest while not a bad unit, certainly can stand some updating.

Wayne
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F_skinner
Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 03:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Wayne, I have been looking at mounts from www.ram-mount.com and they have a lot of different configurations. Just from the pictures posted on this thread I really like the Zumo display.... I have to get a look at one in person to make any kind of decision.
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Atoms
Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 04:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yes. I went to the Garmin store today and looked hard at the Zumo 550 - especially at the mounting hardware. It looks pretty rock solid in person.

I am within inches of pulling the trigger on a 550. Thanks for pics of your setup Bearly. I like the idea of keeping it low - not that I'm worried too much about keeping the rocks from hitting it, but to keep my whole kit tight and clean.
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 09:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I got a copy of the Quest GPS instructions and part numbers, if anyone wants it shoot me a PM and i can email it to you.

Atoms, the 550 is solid, no complaints about the the mount or hardware so far. I got mine from pcnation.com for about $648 a few weeks back, they have it now for $638.80 http://www.pcnation.com/web/details.asp?item=6G033 0&GEN0=Y
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Strmvt
Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 07:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So I got the 12R out of storage, and I go to pull off the Zumo 550 to install the 08 map update and the Bluetooth update and low and behold I seem to have lost the security screw driver for the security screw. Well I call Garmin and explain my situation they say "USUALLY" you have to order a new ram-mount mounting plate to get a driver but since I see we have "extra" ones in stock I'll get one sent out to you and you will have it in a cpl days. Long story short KUDOS Garmin for looking out for my sorry screw driver losing arse.
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Sekalilgai
Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 09:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just recovered my camera ... copla pics of Magellan on the Uly



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Xcephasx
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 02:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

free gps for most smartphones. works great, listen to turn by turn directions & mp3's from my blackberry. great program. will seek gps coordinates or address. capable of reroute, etc.
my .02

http://www.nav4all.com/site2/www.nav4all.com/index .php
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Bosh
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 02:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"free gps for most smartphones. works great, listen to turn by turn directions & mp3's from my blackberry. great program. will seek gps coordinates or address. capable of reroute, etc.
my .02


Is this true GPS or does it need cell towers? I have VZ Navigator from Verizon and it only works where there is cell coverage.
Also, the above may be great for going to a specific destination, but does it plot your position if you're exploring back roads and trails?
Sounds like a cool program.
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Krassh
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 03:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Depends on the phone model, tried my Sprint Blackberry pearl indoors and got a message could not connect to satellites, so this model actually has a GPS inside. Some do some use triangulation with the cell towers. Most carriers probably do not publish the particulars just that they are GPS capable or whatever. Probably be better off looking at a particular manufactures website for questions on a specific model.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 08:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Good point about being lost Skinner!

Getting lost with the GPS is a lot more fun then getting lost without it. With the GPS, you can get lost faster and then stay lost longer.

Nothing ruins a good ride like being nice and lost in some really neat area, only to bang a right turn and suddenly find yourself somewhere you have been before : )
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Strmvt
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 06:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Finally got a camera worth a crap to take decent pics of my set-up on my 12R. I know it's not an Uly Haven't had any problem wise except for losing the dang security screwdriver which I got today thanks Garmin

Riding Position


Mount Pic


Another Mount Pic


And a pic to show the "nub" I had to file so the mount would fit [in yellow circle]
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