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Badcat
Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 12:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

hello from new zealand!
i've just bought an 06 uly.
it's a great bike (traded my ducati ST4)
the rear pirelli diablo it came with seems to be quite "squared off" - i guess from lots of freeway riding, i can feel a flat centre if i run my hand across the profile.
now, i've never been much of a tourer, so have no experience with tyre wear like this.
the bike seems to be "uncertain" in corners, and "tips in" too quickly (for me) mid corner.
does this sound right for tyre wear like this?
it was pretty scary.
of course i have ordered a set of new tyres (michelin pilot road 2s) but would be keen to hear if the issue sounds like a sqared off tyre.

LOVE the bike though, great motor!
ken
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Florida_lime
Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 12:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ken,

You've described the feeling of cornering with a squared off tire pretty well. It's fairly normal depending on your particular road and riding conditions.

Try to find more corners !
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Bad_karma
Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 04:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ken
Yea just what you though and Scott said.
Let us know how those pilot roads workout.
Joe
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Longdog_cymru
Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 11:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi Ken,

Welcome aboard the best website in the world with the best bikes too!

Get those Michelins fitted and find lots of corners!!!
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Adrian_8
Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have one ride on the new Michelin PR-2s, approx. 160 miles.. The front tire definitely turns much easier than the Avon Storms..They did good on the nasty almost muddy gravel roads..it was a cruel break-in for new tires, and on the wet pavement I had no complaints..
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Uly_kiwi
Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 01:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi ken, welcome to the board,good to see another kiwi posting. How much are you paying for the PR-2S? I have been running sync's and paying about $310 for a rear.I have got around 7000kms before replacing.
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Danger_dave
Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 02:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

7! If I get 4K I'm happy.
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Badcat
Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 02:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

hey Uly Kiwi.
i paid $520 for the set from cycletreads.
i think the front was 210 - the rear 310.
only 50 kms on them so far - i'll post the mileage when i wear them out!
i'm in auckland - where are you?
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Florida_lime
Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 03:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My condolences to you guys -- your area is beautiful for riding, but your prices are not.

I just ordered a pair of Pirelli Syncs for $240 TOTAL.

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Treadmarks
Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 07:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just ordered a pair of Pirelli Syncs for $240 TOTAL.

Dang Fl. Thats a good price. I would like to replace my squared rear sync that has 6k on it. May I ask where you got that deal?
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Maximum
Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 08:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

AMT has them for that price including shipping.

http://www.americanmototire.com/catalog/

I just ordered a set of Distanzia's for about the same price as sync's, just to quench my curiosity (I have no complaints with the Pirellis').
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Hdbobwithabuell
Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I swear by the Scorp Syncs but think I'll try a set of Pilot Road IIs. I ride 90% interstate about 80 miles a day and also tend to square off the rear. The PR II's sound like the perfect tire for me. We'll see, it seems they are back ordered everywhere.
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Badcat
Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 02:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

hi florida lime.
no need for condolences.
i live here by choice.
$400 US for the set fitted is pricey, but i gt to wear them out on some of the best (and less populated) roads in the world.
we NZers import a lot of parts privately for better pricing, but for tyres, it's just too much of a PITA.

badcat
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Florida_lime
Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 04:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Treadmarks:

http://http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/28/3 94/6242/ITEM/Pirelli-Scorpion-Sync-Rear-Tire.aspx
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Uly_kiwi
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 03:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi ken, I'm down in Dunedin,I bought my uly new 2yrs ago new,have now done 22000kms no problems,fantastic bike have no intentions of trading in the near future.There is nothing out there that i would replace it with yet.
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Danger_dave
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 07:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>> but your prices are not. <<

Living on beautiful islands in middle of vast ocean has some drawbacks. But not many.
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Uly_kiwi
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 04:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Happy new year Dave,great to have met up with you down south,a good time had by all I think.Are you going to do a write up in the new year on the Burt Munro?
I have no trouble living in paradise
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Uly_kiwi
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 11:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just been to the bike shop I see they have the D616 back in stock I will be going back to them only went to the sync because i could not get theD616.Also they are $100 cheaper.
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Danger_dave
Posted on Saturday, January 12, 2008 - 06:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cheers - Yep - Mag with the Munro report out this week.

I was happy with the 616 rear - front didn't work.
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Chris_socal
Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 01:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Your tip-in may also be due to your riding style. I just ran down Mulholland Dr. in LA and there are a lot of hairpin turns. Needless to say I found myself going on instinct and trying to lean off of the bike. Well that would pull me too much into the turn and I would have to pop up so I wouldn't go flying off the cliff. When I started treating the bike like I was off road it behaved better. I noticed that because you are so high up that you can't lean into turns like you would on a normal sport bike. The bike turns with very little effort and it takes a little getting used to.

I only have 5K on my 08 and I love the ride. I am sure a good part of your issues are from the tires but don't get back on and expect the tip-in issue to be gone.
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Badcat
Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 02:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thanks chris - that's probably sound advice.
after owning the ducati ST4, the buell is very different. i already feel my riding style changing riding the buell.
regards
ken
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