| Author | Message | ||
     Midnightrider |
Nearly 10K and my rear tire (original Dunlop on the '06 model)is nearly toast. There's still a lot of tread on the front but at 9K I developed that "swimming" feeling (that so many here have stated goes away with the Pirelli Scorpion Syncs). I had no issues or complaints before that. I checked out the Pirellis at the HD/B where I get my work done and was struck by how much LESS tread depth there seems to be on the Pirelli rear compared to the Dunlops. That's one of the things I remember about the first time I saw the 06 Uly - how deep the tread was on the rear. My question is this - since almost all my miles are highway miles and I don't do any time on fire roads/etc or track days, wouldn't it make more sense for me to get another set of the Dunlops and get another 9-10K out of a them than go with the Pirellis and get probably half that? Seems like a legitimate question but since I almost always get an unexpected flaming from someone - I'm braced and ready! Thanks | ||
| Captain_nartman |
10K!!!! Crikey Bloke.. Mine was Totally Fried at 4200 Kilometres!! How the F#$% didya get 10K outta Yours???? I'm Guessin ya mean Kilometres.. NOT MILES as That'd be INSANLEY Impossible.as in over 16000 Klms Aint Known anyone to get More than barely 7 Thousand Kilometres Max Outta the Crappola Dunlop rear. Are ya riding on Rubber Roads? N x | ||
| Hooliken |
I am wondering the same? I go through rear tires like I am a test rider for a tire company. The rear Sync on my Duc was toast in about 4200 miles. I have not tried them on the Uly yet. So far, so good with the Conti Road Attacks. | ||
| Isaac |
I have 16k km in my front (lots of thread left) and 10k in my rear (more than 6 mm of thread left). I ordered a new front some weeks ago (P sync) as I took a 4k trip, expecting the front one to wear out, but it did not...... would it be a problem to have the front sync and the read Dunlop? I guess not.... Isaac | ||
| Hooliken |
would it be a problem to have the front sync and the read Dunlop? What you need to watch out for is mixing tire profiles. I am not sure of how similar the Dunlops and Syncs are profile wise. But a rule of thumb is to keep your tire profiles matched or it can lead to some stinky handling characteristics. | ||
| Captain_nartman |
Nope.. But again... Howd ya Keep that Much Tread Onya Rear Dunlop Crappola at 10K klms?? Hoolikens Gonna be Scratchin his head also at this Reply. Next Query.. HOW can ya have an Extra 6 Thousand Klms onya Front Dunlop than ya Rear... Your Posts reads as if they are Both the Stock originals that Came out with the 2006X N x | ||
| Hooliken |
Hoolikens Gonna be Scratchin his head also at this Reply. Hey mate, After the day I had yesterday making some toast this morning had me scratching my head. Exwife+new boyfriend+current wife+kid from X-wife+moving X-wife into new house= pain in my sack!!! | ||
| Etennuly |
I got 6000 miles out of the D616 rear. I get 6000 out of a Sync rear. I am now on rear tire #3 at 16000 miles and will be changing it at 18000. I ran the original front to 15000 and replaced it with a Sync. I have had no problems running the combination of Sync/D616. Orangulius ran a Sync on the front and a D616 on the rear from new, it worked fine (until we killed the D616 with a staple and some plugs last weekend). It is wild how mileage varies on these tires, IMHO it is all rider style use/abuse. | ||
| Hooliken |
IMHO it is all rider style use/abuse. I have never been accused of being rear tire friendly. On my superbikes I would generally get between 2500 to 3000 out of street compound rears. My friends right it off to my time riding offroad where you are using the rear to turn the bike a lot more. Could also be my tendency to stay in the meat of the powerband for those corner exit wheelies that bring me so much joy!!! | ||
| Crusty |
I changed out my D616 at 7500. It still had about 1000 miles left in it. I then went to Avon Azaros. I'll be putting on a set of Pirelli Diablo Stradas this week. I also don't use my Uly off pavement much. If you're not going to be riding on dirt, I'd recommend finding a good road tire. I was a bit disappointed with the Azaros. I loved them on my M2, but they just didn't feel that good on my Uly. I'm hoping the Pirellis do the job. | ||
| Captain_nartman |
I Think Our Ridin Styles are Similar Hooliken. Never Gotten Much Life Otta ANY rear on ANY Bike I've Owned. N x | ||
| Maximum |
I am currently about 7500 miles on my first set of Sync's. I could have replaced the rear back when I had 5000 miles on it, as that is when I first hit the wear indicator, but I had a hard time giving up on it so soon. Since the majority of my miles are going back and forth to work on the slab the center wore faster than the edges, and with plenty of tread on the edges I figured that slippage while cornering would not be a problem. But with my homecoming trip a couple weeks out  , my rear tire is scheduled to be replaced this week. This is what my 7500 mile Sync looks like:  | ||
| Hooliken |
Should of seen the faces on the service managers face at my local HD shop when I brought in my Night Train to have the D206 replaced after 5500 miles. And I quote "Are those cords?" | ||
| Teeps |
I got 5.6k miles out of the stock rear Dunlop. Being the budget minded person, that I am; I replaced both front and rear with a set of Shinko 009R RAVEN RADIAL SPORT/TOURING tires. Got the matched pair from Ride Now Online.com for $152 to my door. http://www.ridenow.com/product/detail/ShinkoRaven. aspx I don't come close to the cornering limit of the bike/tires,so I'm good. Now if they last longer than 6k miles I'm really happy. (Message edited by teeps on June 17, 2007) | ||
| Cyclonedon |
I just replaced my rear Dunlop D-616 at my 10,000 service, with another Dunlop D-616. When I'm getting 10,000 miles trouble-free service out of my tires, why should I replace it with another brand? I rode my back tire with a plug in it when the tire only had 1,000 miles on it. Never ever added any air after plugging it. I think Dunlop makes excellent tires! | ||
| Lorazepam |
Teeps, I have a set of shinko ravens on now. I am in the wear bars with 75xx miles on tham. You will be underwhelmed with them, they are a harder compound, and handle like it. Good mileage though. | ||
| Birdmanrh |
If the tires work for you and you get good mileage from them, don't even bother asking others what they think. Just buy what you've got and smile all the way down the road! | ||
| Chopped58 |
8000 miles, still tread left on my original 06 Dunlops... | ||
| Galloper |
 had to replace this Bridgestone BT014 after 3200 miles. And yes, that was on a Uly. Now I have Michelin Pilot Road 2CT front & rear. Hopefulle these will last a little longer  | ||
| M2nc |
On the Uly D616 - Avg 4K rear - 8.8K front with life left. I have not tried the Syncs yet but have the Diablo Stradas and get 5K out of a rear. I have 6.6K on the front. I also tried the Conti Sportattack and they stuck great but lasted 2.6K. Riding style will tell how long a tire will last but that is not the only factor. Where you live is another factor. Different areas use different materials for the road surface. Also those of us that live further south have to deal with more heat. AydenXB9 moved from here in eastern NC to central Indiana. He would routinely get 3K out of a Metzler rear tire here in NC. After moving to Indiana he stated that the roads were slick in comparison to NC. He stated that he is getting 5K out the same Metzlers on the same bike in Indiana. | ||
| Bosh |
BT014's are great sport bike tires, Very sticky. I had them on my VTR1000. Fatty needs some of those on his uly into sportbike conversion. | ||
| Jlnance |
Midnight - I think most have gotten the similar tire life with both the 616s and the Syncs. For everyone with a 616 on the front, learn from my experience... The tire will cup enough to impact handling LONG before the tread wears out. I changed mine at 6k miles and it was like riding a new bike. It was no where near the wear bars. I suspect that a lot of the flack the 616s get isn't because they are inherently bad tires, but because the front doesn't last as long as it appears to, and people are riding around on worn out tires. | ||
| Tel |
Went to pick up my new Avon Storm ST tires after they were fitted, to be told sorry we couldn't fit them on our balance machine. Can you bring the axles in and we'll static balance them instead. Anyone else been told of the problem or does everyone make do with static only balancing? | ||
| Lorazepam |
static balancing is fine. It does the same as the spin, it just takes longer. These work just as well, and no nasty stick on weights. http://www.innovativebalancing.com/motorcycle.htm | ||
| Hooliken |
Funny thing is that there is much debate about whether balancing tires today is always necessary. With tire technology being what it is and all. I have new buns installed on my Multi but because the rear rim being of the SSSA variant the shop I use did not have the ability to balance. They marked the wheel where the weights were and also wear the "dot" on the tire was. Then installed the new tire in about the same position. (Replacing on Sync with another) Once back on the bike I did a test ride and could not tell the difference. No bouncing at all. Had the same issue with my softail. The balance weights said bye-bye at some point and I only noticed when checking tire pressure before my next ride. Being that I was within a couple hundred of having the new tire installed I left it alone. Even without weights no ill effects were noticed. | ||
| Pso |
When I had my goldwing, I put Ride-on in the tires. It allegedly actes to balance the tires. I did notice an improved handling in the behemouth but I am not sure if the tires lasted any longer, also it acted as a minor seal so I did not need to crawel under the bike to air up the rear tire. I think I may add some ride-0n in my Uly rear for the same reason. | ||
| Brown_e |
Anyone use the Metzeler Z6 on the Uly yet? | ||
| Jlnance |
to be told sorry we couldn't fit them on our balance machine. I have been told that about my Blast rear wheel. The problem seems to be the large sprocket. I removed the sprocket for them, and they had no problem. The Uly sprocket is smaller than the Blast's, but that still may be the problem. | ||
| Jflaig |
Just replaced the Dunlop on my 06 Uly at 9k miles. Still had some left, but being cautious in NE Ohio, I went for the new Dunlop. Handled everything that I have thrown at it, from long Inter-state trips, to carving up NE Ohio. Front still has plenty of miles left. Dealer is surprised that it held on that long, they expected @ 5k. | ||
| Arcticktm |
Note that Motorcycle Consumer News did a recent test on the innovativebalancing type system. They came away less than impressed. They said they could tell a clear difference vs good old fashioned static balancing. As for static vs spin balance: I quit worrying about not spin balancing my bike tires after the first Superbike race I went to. When you see those guys going 180mph on static balanced tires, it makes you feel pretty good about it. As for my personal experience vote: Stock D616 rear = 4000 miles in Florida heat, no stunt riding (and no curves). 616 front still OK at 5k miles. Rear P-Sync only at 1k miles, but great so far (except for the slow leak I just developed). | ||
| Ejc |
I got 4200 miles out of the stock 616 rear. I went with Syncs front and back. I found the Syncs have better high speed stability and fall into turns better,(IMHO). I would go with them again if durability is at least comparable. | ||
| Froggy |
I should of taken photos, just switched from the D616's to the scorpion syncs. I put 6400 on the dunlops, front was fine but the rear was out of tread in the middle. | ||
| Rotorhead |
I have to agree with the front D616 not looking worn but are cupped/flattened/shouldered across the middle 2 inches. When I switched to the MT60's It felt like a new front end on and off road. | ||
| Isaac |
Next Query.. HOW can ya have an Extra 6 Thousand Klms onya Front Dunlop than ya Rear... Your Posts reads as if they are Both the Stock originals that Came out with the 2006X Cuz I had to replace the rear one at 6k because of some nasty puncture...... } | ||
| Ikeman |
Brown_e I just put a Metzeler Z6 rear on the Uly last week (replaced a Conti Road Attack with 8500 miles on it) and left the front Road Attack on. I've got about 800 miles on the Z6 at this point. It seems to stick just fine wet or dry but it gives a bit harsher ride than the Conti did. I didn't really notice any difference in handling versus the Conti. I'm more interested in mileage vs. outright stickiness in my tires. I was going to put another Road Attack on but my local (independent) shop had the Z6 in stock and put it on right then and there (no appointment, just showed up  ). | ||
| Beachbuell |
At 5K miles the stock Dunflops were toast on my Firebolt. I've now got 6K miles on my Pirelli Scorpion Syncs and they look like there is another 4 or 5 K to go. I love em, so much more confident inspiring to me. I will run nothing but Syncs on my Bolt! | ||
| Windrider |
I only got 3800 miles out of the D616s. They also wore terribly. I am going to replace my Pirellis this week after 6500 miles. I could probably get another 1K out of them but I am prepping for an epic journey and need some fresh rubber at the start. The Syncs wore a lot nicer for me. They feel and handle great all the way through their life. |
