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Broads
| Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 06:00 pm: |
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Test rode a Uly the other day and might be riding one now except for one thing. The thing cooked my right inner thigh ! Not just a little warm, but friggin hot ! This was a cool day to boot. Is it possible the test bike was running extremely hot for some reason, or is this the norm ? If so, is there some kind of fix ? I have to think that this is not normal...would hear a lot more squauking I would think. Thanks |
Brat
| Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 06:11 pm: |
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Mine gets hot, some days worse than others, it would be my only reason to sell! I have been thinking of fixes which i'll try when my Uly get's back to OZ, at the moment I ride like I'm in a right hand turn all the time with my right leg hung out slightly! Yes it does suck but the Uly has many attributes (for my uses) that far outweight this singular downside! |
Florida_lime
| Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 07:09 pm: |
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http://www.specialops-online.com/11401.html Scroll down to see the heat shields available for the Uly. |
Broads
| Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 07:53 pm: |
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Well, that answers my question. If someone is marketing heat shields, then I guess it's a problem. Anyone have any input on how effective they are? Eric must have been wearing asbestos leathers when he gave the go ahead for the production bike. |
Andrejs2112
| Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 07:58 pm: |
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I noticed the heat also. I ordered a set of heat sheilds from Odie. Even though I would rather not feel the heat there, it would in no way make me want to get rid of the bike. The Uly is way too much fun. I ride mine to work daily. It usually takes me 10 minutes to get to work in my truck. It usually takes me 45 minutes on my bike. I take the long way there as much as possible! It's that much fun. IMO. |
Hughlysses
| Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 07:59 pm: |
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In my case, I've noticed that a minor shift in the position of my right leg makes a major difference in the heat I feel. I've got the heat shields, but I haven't found it necessary to install them yet. |
Broads
| Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 08:39 pm: |
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I agree with the fun part. As much as I like my RoadKing, I found the "fun" factor increased when I bought a Klr 650. I like the Klr better for the backroad stuff. Crosswinds and freeways are not something the Klr does well though. Thats where I figured the Uly would would fill the gap. I want to get down to 1 bike. |
Aeholton
| Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 09:31 pm: |
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Wrap your pipes. Helps tremendously. |
Khelton
| Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 10:35 pm: |
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Does anyone know where you can get the black wrap for the pipes ? |
Lorazepam
| Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 10:50 pm: |
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http://www.autobarn.net/exinwrbyth.html |
Ft_bstrd
| Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 11:08 pm: |
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The heat also decreases as the engine gets some miles. Mine runs much cooler now. I also have the heat shields (three piece not just the one piece). I also always wear riding pants not just jeans. Don't even notice it now. |
Wademan
| Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 12:07 am: |
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If you wear any kind of gear on your legs you don't even notice it. I would not call it a problem... but whatever. Minor issue maybe. |
Treadmarks
| Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 07:17 am: |
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Get some miles on the motor. Synth oil helps. Free flowing exhaust helps. Right side Scoop helps. Wrapping or ceramic coating helps alot. Odies blankets make a big difference. I run amsoil 20w50, Odies pipe and blankets and a right side scoop, and heat is no longer an issue. |
Etennuly
| Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 09:34 am: |
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Don't wear shorts! |
Al_lighton
| Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 09:57 am: |
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I just recently added the wrap to the store: http://www.americansportbike.com/shoponline/ccp0-p rodshow/16104.html Myself, I prefer the silver ceramic coating. It makes a BIG difference. We've measured pipe temps of 175F cooler than stock with the silver ceramic coating. http://www.americansportbike.com/shoponline/ccp0-p rodshow/PROD42.html |
Buellinabq
| Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 05:31 pm: |
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Does the extra heat retention in the exhaust air mean the the muffler will get hotter and start glowing? Be careful parking offroad so you don't catch the weeds on fire! |
Broads
| Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 10:51 pm: |
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I thought the heat was coming from the rear jug via the fan. There's an opening near the brake res. I really didn't notice heat from the headers. The frame area just below the faux tank got nice and toasty. Looks like the shields that someone mentioned earlier would help with that. Man, I would think that Buell would address this. Maybe in 08.......... |
Us_uly
| Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 11:39 pm: |
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Hey, it's been pretty cold in Ohio this week. I like the heat! |
Ft_bstrd
| Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 11:44 pm: |
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Mmmmmmmmm..........HOT.........JUGGS!!!!!!!! |
Captain_nartman
| Posted on Saturday, April 21, 2007 - 03:15 am: |
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What Treadmarks said.. Ceramic Coating Looks Sweet also and the RSC balances the Look of the Bike. I've All but Odies Blanket. N x |
Jmhinkle
| Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 02:14 am: |
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I have Odie's shields and they block the heat that would blow thru the brake reservoir hole and also keep the seat cooler. They do not help with the heat on the right thigh from the frame. That is the last sore spot for me with my bike. Mine is blistering hot after just short rides. I have to agree that if you wear overpants you don't feel it at all, but I just haven't found comfortable overpants. My next mod will be the ceramic pipes due to the right side heat, but rotating the engine seems like so much work. |
Cyclonedon
| Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 03:12 am: |
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I also noticed the heat on my right leg when I test rode the Ulysses the first time. But now I hardly even notice it! I just got home from riding it tonight and it's in the low 50's out right now so I would liked to have some MORE heat!!! The bike is so much fun to ride and the heat on the leg is a not considered an issue for me! |
Lowflyer
| Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 03:18 pm: |
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I must have gotten a good one. I have never noticed that mine gets very hot at all. |
Al_lighton
| Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 05:59 pm: |
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Rotating the engine isn't that big a deal, really. It is fairly simple and doesn't take long to do. You don't need to disconnect the throttle cables and fuel line like the manual says. I recommend disconnecting the clutch, though. Three subframe bolts, two heim joint bolts, the whole airbox, a small wire tie pushed into the frame behind the gas cap, the clutch cable, the rear plastic belt guard, the pulley cover, and the big Jesus bolt in the front isolator is all that needs to be removed to pivot the engine down. Al |
Paochow
| Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 08:55 pm: |
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Will the coating the headers make them quit melting my nylon riding pants? I'm not sure how I do it, but I've put my knee into a few times now. If so I think I may be losing the gold color. (Message edited by paochow on April 22, 2007) |
Adamd
| Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 09:14 pm: |
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The air that blows out the right side helps cool the engine I'd think. Anyone install a bigger oil cooler? |
Ft_bstrd
| Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 10:10 pm: |
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Al, What's a set of coated pipes go for from you guys? Is there a core charge? Thanks. |
Jmhinkle
| Posted on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 12:33 am: |
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Fatty, All all ready answered both your questions a couple of posts up. http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=142838&post=872454#POST872454 |
Ft_bstrd
| Posted on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 04:50 pm: |
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DOH! Reading is hard. |
Bugnut
| Posted on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 05:18 pm: |
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The little gap that heat escapes between the faux tank and the frame is easily fixed. I picked up some of the same type heat shield Odie uses. Got it from a auto parts place. It's set up to be used on car starters. I just angled it down next to the head in between the frame and head. Then folded the rest back under he seat. Keeps that little furnace under control. Hot already here in Florida! |
Teeps
| Posted on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 07:23 pm: |
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I'd like to see some before and after temperatures before installing anything that blocks or shields the air flow. Personally I find that riding with the wind blowing, perpendicular to the line of travel, right to left is quite peasant. |
L_je
| Posted on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 11:57 pm: |
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When I'm wearing thin khaki pants, I'll feel the heat. If your clothing is thin enough to feel the heat from the headers, the asphalt is going to feel much worse. Add a smart amount of protective gear, and you won't notice the heat from the headers anymore. I don't know what to tell you guys in Florida, only that I do feel rather sorry for you. |
Maximum
| Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 04:53 pm: |
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Even with my Jet-Hot coated header (matte black) I can still feel the heat. It doesn't bother me much with my Aerostitch Combat Lite boots and Olympia pants, but I have only rode in temps up to about 80 so far. It is worse on left cross wind days. |
Al_lighton
| Posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 10:02 am: |
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As cool as black jet hot coated headers look, it isn't a particularly good solution for the heat issue. You need to use the silver coating to get significant heat relief. The problem is that the emissivity of the black surface is higher than that of the stock pipe. It is three times higher than the silver coating. Radiation is a significant factor in the heat transfer to the frame and your body/clothes. The black coating has some conduction insulation to it that reduces the amount of heat that makes it to the outside of the pipe, but once there, the black surface is a more efficient heat radiator. more here: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/384 2/179639.html?1146019343 |
Alchemy
| Posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 09:26 pm: |
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With the Right Side Scoop, ceramic coated headers and synthetic oils temp should be down. The fan itself when the blades are not turning must inhibit the air flow. Has anyone ever removed the fan to see if it further increases air flow? Just wondering. |
Florida_lime
| Posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 09:39 pm: |
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Al_lighton said: As cool as black jet hot coated headers look, it isn't a particularly good solution for the heat issue. You need to use the silver coating to get significant heat relief. Al, is it possible to coat the inside silver, and the outside black ? Could be the best of both worlds if it is feasible for the coating companies. |
Al_lighton
| Posted on Thursday, April 26, 2007 - 02:47 am: |
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Wouldn't work. The silver on the inside would turn black/gray from carbon buildup, and the black on the outside would still be an effective radiator of heat regardless of the coated silver on the inside. Al (Message edited by al_lighton on April 26, 2007) |
Captain_nartman
| Posted on Thursday, April 26, 2007 - 05:29 am: |
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Mines Black as ya can see.. n IT Does Cut Heat. Maybe Silvers Best.. but Black Works to Some Degree... me Right Leg can Attest to that. i live in Central Australia Where we've Just come Outta 6 Months of Record HIGH temps... 38c-42c Everyday... so I ride round Town in Shorts 99% of the Time.. before Coating... was a Stick ya Leg Out Sorta Thing... After, Althouigh STILL Heat Radiated.. it wasd at LEAST HALF the Heat I felt before. Make ya own mind up.. but This IS FACT> If Silver Cuts heat MORE... Great.. but I reckon Silver Would Look Crap.. Just My taste. Cheers N x |