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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thats what I thought, but I was able to get my tool bag, tie down straps & 6 foot of fuel line back under the seat. I just had to do a little more squeezing, but all the stuff I had under there before is still under the seat.
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Buellinabq
Posted on Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 01:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thats why I held off installing my Back-Off XP. I think that looks like crap too. I was expecting it to be right up against the seat latch. I bought it last week and was expecting to tuck it in the back. Then I heard that the BAS was going to be moved back by the seat latch and I was waiting for the picture to see where. Soooo, I guess I'll wait for the recall to be done and then I'll figure out where to put the Back-Off. Maybe I can unscrew the BAS and still put it behind it.
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Buellish
Posted on Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The recall code is 0833.
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Lorazepam
Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Guess I will be removing my intercom, and other stuff I put back there. Sucks to lose that area, it sure was handy.
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Stevenknapp
Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 09:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You COULD defeat the tip sensor...not that I'd do this...but just an idea if you wanted the space AND no issues with the BAS.
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Teeps
Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 08:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Stevenknapp
Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 09:08 pm:
You COULD defeat the tip sensor...not that I'd do this...but just an idea if you wanted the space AND no issues with the BAS.


I don't know how the BAS works, but I suppose one could do that, or, just not have it done until the original BAS gave a problem.
However, I would not recommend ignoring this recall.
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Red_chili
Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Recall done. Didn't pull the seat yet though, so the pic above is my first realization of the loss of storage.

Not a big deal, I usually ride with a tankbag anywho.
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Gotj
Posted on Thursday, March 08, 2007 - 09:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've followed most of the tip sensor threads but have seen nothing about how moving its location solves the problem of its cutting out. I understand the "fix" is just the relocation, not a new sensor in a new location. Am I mistaken about this?
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Thursday, March 08, 2007 - 10:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They just move the old one to a new location. I have no idea why it didn't like its old home Maybe it had bad neighbors....fan, battery
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Cujo
Posted on Thursday, March 08, 2007 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think there was a post from "Anonymous" on another thread that said it vibrated to much in the old location.
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Gotj
Posted on Thursday, March 08, 2007 - 01:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cujo,

Thanks, I guess I missed that.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2007 - 04:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I went out to Dillon Brothers HD/Buell unannounced and they did the sensor recall in about 20 minutes. The Buell rider/mechanic showed me what he did and explained that sensors were getting wet in the original position and were too close to the pounding of the shock. The new bracket helps isolate and the new location is further from the elements. Mine never caused me a problem in the original location. I also got the free skull cap. Anything free is good. Oh yeah, guess what is selling real well,...the Nightster. I'm thinking that when it comes time to change the front fork oil, I'm going to install rubber boots on the forks. Just like the old days. They really protect the seals better than anything. I love the Buell, but I want one of those XR1200's that is still in the prototype phase. Just have to add it to the stable when it becomes available.
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44mag2
Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - 01:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why do we need a bank angle sensor? As far as I know, none of my previous bikes had one. It is only one more thing to go wrong.

How do I defeat it?
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Roadrailer
Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - 01:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It shuts the bike off in case of a crash or tip over. I don't know about you, but the last thing I want when I'm scooping myself up off the road after a crash is to be lying next to a bike that's still running.

I'm sure there's a way around it, but I wouldn't.
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Windrider
Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - 01:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

44Mag2,

The Bank Angle Sensor shuts down the engine when it senses that the bike has tipped over. You need it for safety reasons.

I wouldn't suggest defeating it. However, if you were really worried that it might give a false indication and shut you off when the bike was still vertically oriented, you could probably wire in a switch to bypass the sensor so that if it ever did fail or give a wrong indication you could flip the switch and send a "vertical" signal to the ECM. A little research or simply tracing the wires on the sensor and measuring the running mode state from the sensor with a DVM would make this a pretty simple operation.

I am not too worried about it and prefer to keep the safety shutoff active for my 2 cents.
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Treadmarks
Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - 04:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All one needs to do in the event of a false BAS activation and shut off, is toggle the on/off switch next to the throttle and then start it back up.

I know this works at 110 mph when you least expect it.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - 06:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Defeat it by screaming the phrase, "PREPARE FOR GLORY!!"
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L_je
Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My BAS works quite well. Every time my bike has been on its side, the engine shuts down. This way, you can really take the time to savor the moment, as you don't have to rush over to your bike and hit the kill switch.

If your bike keeps running while horizontal, I'd imagine that the oil isn't going to where it is supposed to go, and that can't be a good thing.

I'm reluctant to take my bike in for the recall, because I think I'd have to repeat all of these points again, just to confirm proper functionality.
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Panhead_dan
Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - 09:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would like to defeat mine so that it does not work, as in not part of the electrical system. That's what the kill switch is for.
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L_je
Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - 09:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sometimes it takes you a while to get back to your bike, and that's what the BAS is for.

Some guys over in ADVrider were lamenting that their GSs don't have a BAS, and that it's sometimes a PITA to shut their bike off in short order after a mishap. They figure they have about 30sec to shut it off before oil-starvation starts. ...given the opposing twin geometry, they don't have much margin between full-lean (at speed) and full-lean (beached), so they can't use a BAS.
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Dragon_slayer
Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I do not know if it is the BAS, but at least twice now when I have been making a low speed hard left turn, I have had the engine cut out when rolling the throttle back on to help stand the bike back up. Lucky in both cases the bike had enough speed and I had enough strength to complete the turn and straighten the bike back up. The engine kicked back in once the bike was vertical again.
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Stevenknapp
Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 09:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

DS - Nope, when the BAS trips you need to "reset" the bike by flicking the kill switch.
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