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Gamdh
Posted on Saturday, January 13, 2007 - 08:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The original thread for reference....
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/241368.html?1168737965

Just a quick update. I now have about 1,500 (maybe a bit more) miles with the 'big' screen So far so good.. no issues as yet. The screen does what I want. .it keeps the majority of the cold wind off of me. I ride to work 38 miles one way.. back roads.. so I can ride 55-65 more or less and then the weekend 'fun' rides. I have not had to do any kind of sustained high speed interstate riding, so can't really comment on riding down the road at 80+ for hours on end. I have had the screen up to higher speeds for short bursts with no problems yet.

This screen definitely buffets much less than the Cee Baily 16 inch. Given that the Cee Baily flipped up at the top and this one does not ... seems to keep the airflow much smoother.. pretty sure it also puts less stress on the windshield (??).

Mike
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Milo_h
Posted on Saturday, January 13, 2007 - 08:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey, thanks for the update Mike.
Remind me,...what hight windshield are you running now?
Is Parabellum selling the one your using?

Peace
Milo
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Gamdh
Posted on Saturday, January 13, 2007 - 10:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I currently have the 28 inch. I checked the web site (http://www.parabellum.com/)

Charly has these listed

22" (pictured)
24"( good for average height person)
24"
26"
28" (+$25)

I also mentioned to him I wanted to discuss a 'summer' windshield that would smaller (both width and height) than the current offerings. If he makes one I would buy it.. his material and workmanship are top notch.

So in the beginning of the original thread I had the 22" inch (thats my bike in the pic on his web site) and in the latter part of the thread I have the 28.

I had a few pics of both posted.. from here
http://gamdh.smugmug.com/gallery/2144819/1/1111471 95


HTH
Mike
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Maximum
Posted on Saturday, January 13, 2007 - 11:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How tall are you Mike?

I am probably going to get one for my winter shield. I'm 5'9" and thinking about going with the 24". I will also be running the 2007 seat which is lower than the standard '06 seat that you are running.

Steve
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Gamdh
Posted on Saturday, January 13, 2007 - 11:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm 6'2"... If you look at the pics on smugmug it will give you a good idea of the actual height of the screen etc..

Mike
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Javadog
Posted on Sunday, January 14, 2007 - 08:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I need the wind protection but that shield just looks so gigantic. I wish there was a
way to adjust the height without having to
take the flyscreen off and remove it-what a
pain that would be. What about the supporting
posts? Wasn't Charly reconsidering the design to upgrade the mounting system?
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Gamdh
Posted on Monday, January 15, 2007 - 07:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Java.. I'll ask him again. Might help if those interested would send him an email asking the same question. (just a thought)

Mike
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Bienhoabob
Posted on Monday, January 15, 2007 - 10:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I sent him a request for upper support, when you first posted.
He responded with "the shield is guaranteed for a year".
Not exactly sure what that means, but I did ask.
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Gamdh
Posted on Tuesday, January 16, 2007 - 08:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So, I exchanged emails with Charly last night. I'll be dropping of the Uly Wednesday night so he can work on the supports....

As soon as I get it back I'll post a few pics.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/220984.html#POST724350

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/213105.html#POST697896

The hardware for this modified CB is $36.32 tax included. It's Slipstreamer hardware #A1A for the Hellfire windscreen. You have to bore a couple of holes in the windscreen to mount the rods. Real easy. These acrylic wind screens are a breeze to drill and will only shatter if you try to hammer the holes through with a pick axe instead of boring with a drill.

http://slipstreamer.com/Product/Hardware/hardware. html

They can be ordered from your dealer or parts store.
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Chadhargis
Posted on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wow! If you had a good steady tailwind, you could shut the engine off and sail to your destination. LOL!! : )
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 11:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Chadhargis,
With that 6'5" frame of yours, is that what you do? Can you explain the difference??? The wind is blocked by the windscreen instead of my chest and face. The only thing that suffers is top speed since no matter how low I crouch down the windshield is still there.
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Chadhargis
Posted on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 01:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Note the smiley...my comment was intended as humor.

My 6'5" frame is exactly why I don't like big windshields. In order to get the wind over my helmet, I've got to put a barn door on the bike that's so big that I have to look trough it, and then I get a big ugly low pressure zone that buffets me to death.

I've cruised at 80mph for miles on end with my +2.5" Cee Bailey's and the wind hits me about mid chest. My helmet is in good clean air. I'm also averse to bolting anything like that to my handlebars. If the wind hits me, I can absorb the windblast and not feed it to the bars. Can't do that with a big windscreen.

I'm not knocking the windshield...if it works...then more power to it. I was just poking a little fun at it.
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Gamdh
Posted on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 07:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tail winds are great for the gas mileage...
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Gamdh
Posted on Friday, January 19, 2007 - 08:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just picked up the Uly from Charly @Parabellum. It now has the extra support struts everyone seems to want. Not a very long ride home but ...the windshield is rock solid with the struts.

I will post some pics in the morning.
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Gamdh
Posted on Saturday, January 20, 2007 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here are a few pics of the 28 inch shield with the new supports. The are very unobtrusive in the cockpit!








Everything still fits with not problems.

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Bienhoabob
Posted on Saturday, January 20, 2007 - 04:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I like them. Do you know the total cost of the shield w/struts. I went to the site, but it hasn't been updated.


Thanks, for all of your effort on this project also.

Bob
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Saturday, January 20, 2007 - 04:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Gamdh,
To be honest with you, those turnbuckle supports look like they have too many degrees of freedom. The slipstreamer rods go up higher and are very sturdy but probably would interfere with your GPS and fishfinder.
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Gamdh
Posted on Saturday, January 20, 2007 - 06:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bienhoabob : No idea on the cost.. I'll ping Charly.

Elec : The windshield is very stable.. not sure what you mean by degrees of freedom.. but the shield does not move. I grabbed the top and pulled in various directions.... very strong. The location of the mounts is good in my opinion... the offer a lot of support and stability without getting in the way.
Next objection?

Again.. Charly knows what he's doing.. he uses superior materials and has pride in what he does. Personally.. even without the struts I think his shields are much stronger and better designed than the Cee Baily ... just my $.02.
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Gamdh
Posted on Saturday, January 20, 2007 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bienhoabob

Charly's response

"i'll make the upper supports standard [no extra charge ]"
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Maximum
Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 12:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I talked to Charly on the phone today, and Gamdh is correct, this guy knows what he's doing!

I went ahead and ordered a 24" tinted shield for my trip back home next month (Alabama to Colorado ).

(Message edited by maximum on January 21, 2007)
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Littlefield
Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 09:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I ordered a 24" Parabellum screen about a week ago. Thursday evening Charley called and informed me he was including the struts and asked why I ordered the 24". No good reason other than that was recommended as the average size. He suggested the 28" for my 6' frame. You don't get that kind of personalized service most places.
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Bienhoabob
Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Gamdh,
I just ordered a 24". I'm a little shorter than you guys. Can't wait to try it out.
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Javadog
Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 09:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's gi-freaking-gantic! Let's hear some product review feedback ASAP.
Any 5'10" people getting the 24 inch?
Does a crosswind or windblast from a semi just about knock you over? Can you go through a car wash and not get wet? Is there a polycarbonate bullet and shrapnel resistant version?
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Gamdh
Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 09:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Java.. I've done a few reviews and updates (see this thread and the original, hopefully some others will add their reviews). And yes the 28" is the proverbial barn door.. but again.. thats what I (and others) wanted for the winter. I asked Charly about something smaller for the summer and he seemed interested.

As for any handling issues.. I have not encountered anything due to the windshield.

Not sure about the carwash .. but if if you get going in the rain.. you don't get wet

And of course he is using military aircraft grade acrylic.. so there is only one way to find out if its bullet proof...I'll let someone else be the test rider for that experiment .
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Shopguy10
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My CeeBailey sucks! I am 6' and find that the CB causes so much buffeting and wind noise to my helmet I would be better off with no windshield at all. As a matter of fact, my Buell "tall" screen is quieter. The only advantage to the CB is that it does block the wind blast on my torso. I think I am going to try the 28" parabellum after seeing it on the bike and hearing such good things about it here, regardless of Electraglider_1997's teasing. Kind of funny coming from and obvious geezerglide rider...talk about a barn door, those things are like driving the whole barn!
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