| Author | Message | ||
     Dr_greg |
I changed oil about 1,500 miles ago. About 500 miles after the change I noticed oil on the muffler. I tightened the oil filter a little (never had to do that before) and it stopped. Then on a 600-mile ride I smelled hot oil, and sure enough it was leaking again! I removed the oil filter, and it appeared that the O-ring had some excess material on one portion, which I removed. But it still leaked. I had another (new) Buell oil filter, so I swapped O-rings, and I _think_ the leak has stopped. But I assumed that a gen-yoo-wine Buell oil filter would be better than a Wally World knockoff. Am I right? Anyone else had an oil filter leak chronically? What filter are you using? P.S. How do you remove burned oil stains from the muffler? | ||
| Birdmanrh |
Does that mean you didn't check the filter before you put it on? I have over the year found a total of 3 filters that were bad out of the box for a couple different reasons.....that's why I always check. Oil will burn off over time.  | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I had the same thing happen on a Toyota filter. The "O" ring had a dent in it. It might have had something stacked on it, or it might have come through the process flawed. It leaked around the top and was replaced. I always check when I open the box now to make sure the filter ring is in good shape. | ||
| M2nc |
I did one better on a F-150 I had. I had the shop put a re-man motor in the old truck. After the break in miles I changed the oil and the next day I was on a two-lane highway when I caught up to a slower moving car. I pulled left of center and passed the car. When I check the mirror to make sure I had room to get back over I see a NASCAR style smoke screen start pouring out the back. I get to a gas station about a mile up the road and open the hood. There was oil everywhere I though the new motor gave way. Call the shop tell them what happen and that I need it towed back to the shop because it was about out of oil. The next day the shop calls me up and tells me the truck is ready. I was shocked. How could they have replaced the motor that quick I though to myself. So I ask, what was wrong with it. They told me, "It had two oil filter seals and it was just a matter of time before it let go." I said, "What". Then the mechanic said, "When you changed the oil the other day, you forgot to clean the milled surface to make sure the old seal was removed. When you put the new filter on, you put the new seal right over the old one. It's amazing it lasted as long as it did." So now you know where  got its call. Dee-Dee-Dee! No Dee-Dee-Dees with this Buell filter aye? | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
My buddy's truck did the same thing except it caught on fire. He saw the flames in a reflection on the wet road section. He sped up and ran through a puddle to put it out. Luckily the seal on the Buell filters is integrated into the filter itself. | ||
| Buellinabq |
Oh that brings back a bad memory for me too. I had the same thing happen once and only once. I changed the oil, started it up, sprayed oil all over the driveway. Checked the filter and the same thing happened. When I took the old one off, the rubber seal came off the filter and it was stuck on the motor. I didn't notice it and put a new filter because you reach under the car and you don't normally look up from the bottom. Ever since that time, I always check. I used to always take the filter off and dump it upside down in the drain pan. Well I always fill the car back up and start it up to move it and then clean up the old oil. I still dump the oil filter that way, but I always look now! Kitty litter looks so nice all over the oil spot for a day or two to absorb it. | ||
| M2nc |
He saw the flames in a reflection on the wet road Okay, that reminds me. I was at a friend's house with my girl friend (now wife) about two hours away from home. We had spent the night and the next morning as we were getting ready to go, I got caught up watching an old movie. Kristi tells me its time to go but I keep stalling her. Eventually I run outside though the snow to her RX3 (Ex-SCCA Show Room Stock Race car returned to the street) and started it, then ran back inside and kept watching the movie. After a few minutes Kristi starts again with the "Its time to go." I would reply, "the car is not warmed up yet." After several rounds of the "cars not warmed up yet" I finally capitulated and we went to the car. As I walked around the back of car, I saw an orange glow in the snow under the car. I kneel down to see flames shooting out the tail pipe and some other rubber and plastic bits in flames. Called the fire trucks out to put that one out. Kristi looked at me after the fires was out and said. "I think the car is warmed up now!" | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Classic!  | ||
| Jmhinkle |
Dr_Greg, I've never had a problem like that before, but I always look the oring over good and clean the milled surface good on any oil change. I also only use K&N oil filters on all my vehicles with external type filters. I have for about the last 5 years. They are way easier to deal with because of the nut welded to the bottom and when I was doing oil analysis a few years ago, I saw the best results with them. I find the Buell filters to be cheaply made. When I changed the original for the first oil change I crushed the can with a rubber strap wrench trying to get it off. The second one did the same thing and I don't feel it was on too tight. The next two have been K&N and come on and off without issue. | ||
| Gearloose |
Joel whats the K&N part #? Gearloose | ||
| Jmhinkle |
kn-177 for the XB's 04 and newer. They don't list a filter for older so I'm not sure if there was a different filter for the older bikes. I got mine on Ebay from daveknowsdeals http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/K-N-OIL-FILTER-BUELL-SPIN-ON-KN-177_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35595QQihZ018QQitemZ280014824435QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD1V for the best price I could find. They are still $11.95 a filter which some might think is high, but I'm happy with them. The purolator pure one is still the industry best oil filter. Autozone can order them but is a little pricey for the motorcycle filters. Sorry for all the edits, but I could not get the hyperlink to work properly. (Message edited by jmhinkle on December 03, 2006) (Message edited by jmhinkle on December 03, 2006) (Message edited by jmhinkle on December 03, 2006) (Message edited by jmhinkle on December 03, 2006) | ||
| Jmhinkle |
Here is a cross reference of filters that I found on sporttwin.com that will work. The hp-1003 is much easier to find than the kn-177. Stick with the higher quality parts denoted with * ACDelco # PF1233 *Amsoil SDF10/EA010 *Bosch # 3311 Champion # C138 Fram # PH4967 HD # 63806-00Y *K&N # hp-1003/KN-177 Mighty # m4477 *Napa # 1394 *Mobil 1 # M1-103 Motorcraft # FL836 Penzoil # pz39 Purolator # L14476 *Purolator PureOne # PL14476 STP # S4967 Valvoline # vo40 Wal-Mart Super Tech # ST4967 *Wix # 51394 If I remember right, the supertech has decent filtering abilities and they are dirt cheap. The Purolator Pure One is great, but the normal Puralator is crap. (Message edited by jmhinkle on December 03, 2006) (Message edited by jmhinkle on December 03, 2006) (Message edited by jmhinkle on December 03, 2006) | ||
| Jlnance |
But I assumed that a gen-yoo-wine Buell oil filter would be better than a Wally World knockoff. Am I right? Neither Wallmart nor Buell makes oil filters. Its fairly likely they are identical filters. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Hinkle, You can delete the text of the previous edits when you are doing the next edit. That way there are not 20 edits in your text. | ||
| Dr_greg |
Yes, of course I know that neither Wal-Mart nor Buell fabricate oil filters. I was just using a figure of speech. Thanks for the informative discussion. I've been changing oil on a multitude of vehicles for nearly 50 years and never had this happen before; born lucky I guess! | ||
| Daulyfreek |
There's another possibility- I had an oil leak from an oil filter line that was factory installed incorrectly. When I brought it in, they said they had seen it on some Lightnings as well. I carefully cleaned the area, left the chin spoiler off and checked after each ride. You could see it was the fitting very quickly. It was repaired under warranty. The oil leak became noticeable after about 2K miles. | ||
| Roadrailer |
They may have had a bad batch recently. The filter I put on a few months ago is leaking slightly. Looked fine at install. It's not leaking much, but it is leaking. |
