| Author | Message | ||
     Mannu |
Hello, I just purchased a 06-Uly. I had some problems in the beginning. One of the infamous stalling of the bike after 15-20 miles of running. After several trips to the dealer, they attributed it to the TPS, which was 0-ed out and also replaced the spark-plugs. That was 100 + miles ago and seems like it is holding up. A very alarming concern, I have is the excessive heating of the gray frame below the "proposed" gas tank cover. I called Buell, and they say it gets warm, but the heat part is subjective. I would like to know if anyone else has also experienced or expressed similar concerns, and if so did anyone implement a fix like , heat masking tape around the exhaust. Much of it is coming from sucking out the hot air from next to the crank. This air makes its way to underneath the seat and vents out from there on the side, which I believe also raises the temp. Any suggestions or thoughts will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance | ||
| Aj06bolt12r |
My bolt does the same thing, the frame gets too hot to even put your hand on. I just wear long pants and dont touch it. | ||
| Mannu |
I was afraid I was going to hear that, darn. Thanks for the feedback... Be safe | ||
| Lowflyer |
Mine gets warm, but not hot. I wouldn't hold a puppy or a small child against it or anything, but it isn't hot enough to worry about otherwise. 10K on my Uly and no worries. | ||
| Too_tall_todd |
Unless I misunderstood where you were talking about, I measured mine at 133 F and the worrysome part is that that is the gas tank. Fortunatly Odie Is looking into making a set of his cool heat shields for this. hope this helps T3 | ||
| Jmhinkle |
I live in New Mexico and in the day time, mine will get downright scalding. I don't have any pinging issues, likely due to my altitude, but I would bet that the gas being that hot doesn't help it. I also let Odie know I was interested in what todd suggested. The right side seems far worse too me than the left, likely due to the narrowness of the frame/tank in relation to the closeness of the rear cylinder head. | ||
| Odie |
I'll hopefully come up with a solution to minimize this issue by the first week of October. I'm planning on taking the last week of Sept off from my real job to get caught up on stuff. We all know how the best laid plans of mice and men go...... I'll let ya'll know when I come up with something...soon! | ||
| Stretch67 |
I know a fellow whose Uly's frame was too hot to touch, and the rear header pipe had blued, while the front had not. He suspected that the mixture was too lean, but the local dealer blew him off. "It's air-cooled. It's supposed to run hot." Our friend then by-passed the dealer and went straight to Buell Inc. The dealer subsequently called him and invited him to bring his bike in immediately. They tweaked the mixture some to richen it, and the frame is now much cooler and the low-speed surging is gone. Perhaps some bikes run leaner than others. Does anyone run a Race ECM and a scalding-hot frame? I'm curious if the Race ECM might be a cure for this, as it enriches the mixture somewhat. | ||
| Aeholton |
I run the Race ECM and the frame gets good and warm. I've notice since I wrapped the headers and installed the right side scoop it is cooler. I can even wear shorts while riding now without burning the inside of my knee (no ATGATT replies please). (Message edited by aeholton on September 19, 2006) | ||
| Mainstreamer |
I'm in S, Florida and run the race kit on my Uly. The right side frame rail gets hot enough to be very distracting, and a rider safety issue, ... even when wearing jeans. I'm unable to wear my mesh pants on the Uly during the summer season here. On the other hand, I was in N. Ga. a few weeks ago where temps were in the mis 70's and the heat was not an issue. | ||
| Treadmarks |
My Uly frame gets soo hot....  that the next time my side stand fails, I'm gonna fry eggs on it! | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
I wrapped the header and installed a K&N, Drummer & Race ECM...since then it doesn't seem to get anywhere near as hot as it did..  | ||
| Sanchez |
I'm kind of enjoying the warm seat and frame now that the weather's starting to cool down.  | ||
| Snowscum |
It was 35 degrees on the way to work this morning. But by 3 it was 76 and mine was pinging like a banjo on crack. Frame was to hot to touch with the race kit. Idle started acting like it was sticking as well. Morning good. Over 70 baddddddddddddddd!!!!! | ||
| Aj06bolt12r |
I think that this is an issue for all xb frame buells. Like I posted earlier I have a firebolt and it get seriously hot also, to the point that a friend of mine was going to let his toddler sit on the bike right after I arrived at his house and I literally ran over there and swiped the kid out of his hands before it was too late, that kid would have been screaming his head off if he got his bare leg against the right side frame. definatly worse on the right side. Also I do experience a miss at light throttle cruising, my bike is bone stock, maybee running lean to meet emmissions has somthing to do with it although I never have any pinging at any temperature. Id say of odie came up with some kind of heat shield to prevent this that he would sell a boat load of them. Id buy one before next summer.  | ||
| Oldnotbold |
I bought some Thermo-Shield tape that I was going to install on the inside of the frame while I had the engine rotated to get my header Jet-Hot treated. Then I got to thinking that the frame and fuel might be a part of the cooling equation for the engine, and I decided not to use it. | ||
| Tbowdre |
ceramic coating | ||
| Lorazepam |
shuttle tiles | ||
| Jmhinkle |
"shuttle tiles" But they will fall off as I leave a stoplight and then I will burn up as I reenter the atmosphere of my yard! | ||
| Mannu |
Lot of good posts, you guys are funny. OldNotBold, that is exactly the reason, why I am not fudging with it just yet. I bought a pair of thick riding pants, and they do the trick. But just like everyone on this post, I just wanted to make sure there is no mechanical issue. I will keep an eye on the header turning blue though.. | ||
| Aj06bolt12r |
To old bold and mannu... Im not a buell engineer or anything but I really doubt that Buell would use the frame/gas tank to help cool the engine. I have to believe that anything we do to keep engine heat away from the fuel could only be benefical. Plus hot fuel going into your engine produces less power and promotes the dreaded pinging or pre-ignition witch we all know is damaging to any engine. In fact some drag racers and tractor pullers will go so far as to add a bunch of extra fuel line between their fuel tank and carburators/injector system and route it through some type of container with ice water in it in order to drop the temperature of the fuel before it enters the engine. Plus I dont think I would worry about the header turning blue, I think that happens to all buells with the stock headers... Hope this helps you and maybee odie make your decisions  | ||
| Ka5ysy |
Hey Guys: The Uly doesn't get too hot... here is a real overheating problem. R1200GS shaft drive system bearing failure (no.. there is no final drive problem!) !   | ||
| Red_chili |
Gosh, I wish I'd spent way more and gotten the GS. On our trucks we have Hot-Doggers on the manifold, cook lunch while you go down the 4x4 trail. With a GS, I could do the same! But seriously- I hear very good things about Odie's heat blankets, but have a question: the fan wants to push air. The right side is obviously designed to be an exit for that hot air. Doesn't Odie's blanket block the exit route for the air? Of course, some creative dremeling could create an alternative route, which could be used as a rear tire preheating design...  | ||
| Lowflyer |
Ka, It's really not fair to say that there is a problem and show a picture like that to back it up. The guy that took that pic has admitted to not checking the oil.  | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
And all this time I've never checked the Oil level on my ULY's belt. | ||
| Lowflyer |
No, but you better check the oil in your swing arm just the same. This Beemer rider did not check the oil in his swing arm. It ran dry and caught fire. | ||
| Roadrailer |
But seriously- I hear very good things about Odie's heat blankets, but have a question: the fan wants to push air. The right side is obviously designed to be an exit for that hot air. Doesn't Odie's blanket block the exit route for the air? I have the same concern. Blocking a path for the hot air to escape seems like a bad idea, especially with the ECM being where it is.  | ||
| Roadrailer |
No, but you better check the oil in your swing arm just the same. This Beemer rider did not check the oil in his swing arm. It ran dry and caught fire. I read that entire thread, and didn't come to that conclusion at all. http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=167287 FWIW, FD failures on Beemers are nothing new. This one just happened in a dramatic fashion. | ||
| Treadmarks |
I bought all three blankets for the Uly from Odie. I have also attached a sheet of foil covered ceramic fiber mat to the bottom of my low seat. Now all the hot air escapes out the rear, across the shock and out the back. I would much rather it take that route, than the "preheat the rear brake fluid and leg burner route! | ||
| Lowflyer |
"I read that entire thread, and didn't come to that conclusion at all." Did you read this from page 6 of that thread?: "If I had it to do all over again I would have drained and put in new gear oil prior to leaving on my trip. I had the 6000 mile service done prior to leaving and to be honest I did not look to see if the dealership changed the final drive gear oil or not. Hind sight being what it is I think that this was starting to present itself to me while still west of Glacier National Park. I had an intermittent "grumble" in the pegs when I would roll off the throttle but it would not duplicate when I tried it to make it. I never did pull the drain plug and investigate further, My Mistake."} (Message edited by lowflyer on September 21, 2006) |
