| Author | Message | ||
     Motomickey |
Just got my 07 seat (thanks Daves) and replaced the 06 low seat. Big improvement!!! More comfortable, much slimmer in the middle. Much more control at stops. Less of a hump in the rear. Putting it on the bike-it seemed to need slightly more effort to get it to latch in the rear-but no big deal. I'll make someone a killer deal on the low seat - but honestly, I don't know why they would buy it. | ||
| Teeps |
The seat latching force on my Uyl has always been difficult. But, the '07 seat was just about impossible to latch! I shimmed the seat latch bar (up) on my bike to get the seat latch force to my liking. It took two flat washers under the bracket at each screw and 1/4" longer screws. $.58 for the hardware at the local hardware store. Motomickey Posted on Friday, August 25, 2006 I'll make someone a killer deal on the low seat - but honestly, I don't know why they would buy it. The long inseam people that buy the '07 Uly, will likely be in the market for the taller '06 seat. (Message edited by teeps on August 25, 2006) | ||
| Warbaby |
Which seat is lower with feet on the pegs, the `06 low or the `07 standard? | ||
| Brotherbuell |
My trick for latching the hard to latch seats is to loosen the latch bolts under the seat, play with the seat until you get it to latch and then retighten the latch bolts. This seemed to position the latch in the best spot. | ||
| Teeps |
Warbaby Posted on Saturday, August 26, 2006 Which seat is lower with feet on the pegs, the `06 low or the `07 standard? What are you asking? You sit lower with the low seat. This has the same effect as raising the wind screen about 1.5." Your feet are about 1.5" lower to the ground. The seating platform is about 1.5" closer to the foot pegs. (longer legged people will probably not want a lower seat.) | ||
| M2nc |
You sit lower with the low seat. This has the same effect as raising the wind screen about 1.5." Your feet are about 1.5" lower to the ground. The seating platform is about 1.5" closer to the foot pegs. (longer legged people will probably not want a lower seat.) So you are saying that the '07 seat is taller than the '06, right? When stopped, what is the difference between the two seats as far as reach to the ground? I do not know if the narrower '07 makes up for any height? | ||
| Warbaby |
What are you asking? I posed the question that way to eliminate the variables of suspension compression with a rider on board...just trying to determine the absolute lowest seat available. Thanks for the info! | ||
| Xbimmer |
Warbaby the '06 Low is the lowest of the three, if that's what you're asking. It doesn't work for me either, I put 30 mi on it and reboxed it. Been riding on my '07 seat for a week now, getting used to it. It seems to have three marked steps for the rider, at least to me. Front is real narrow and kind of pitches me a little too forward, it does help when paddling the bike around though, and when hustling the bike through turns. Center section where I spend most of my time is perfect, but very limited in fore-aft room to move. Rear portion is broad and flat but I can't see using it unless I fit my CityX bars to the bike and change the whole nature of it. The best part is that it's firmer. I still like the '06 standard seat's rider positioning the best but it's too soft for me. All three of my post-purchase seats (including my warrantied stocker) were a pain to put on. They took a VERY firm push to get the seat to latch, enough to compress the rear suspension. After a few miles though, probably with help from the fan pushing nice hot air under the pans, they all seemed to take a set and latch easily. | ||
| Warbaby |
Xbimmer - That's what I wanted to know. Thanks! | ||
| Teeps |
Warbaby, I think I got it now. Yes, your ass will be closer to your feet (on the pegs) with the '07 seat. My knees are bent at a more acute angle with the '07 seat, than with the '06 seat. ACUTE: Geometry. a.(of an angle) less than 90°. M2nc, See above reply. | ||
| Xbimmer |
Warbaby, you're welcome! To clarify: '06 Standard: Great shape, lots of room, too high for some, too soft for me. '06 Low: Gel insert in rider's portion, much lower and flatter in the rider's portion. Definitely gets the rider closer to the pegs and down into the bike while moving. Because it's very flat and wide, at stops there is no change (at least for me) in ground control. I can only assume that it's because I'm thin with long legs, a "wider" person with shorter legs would probably like the reach to the pavement better. '07 Standard: Very more sculpted shape than the '06 Standard, retains the narrow front of the '06 Standard but drops the height over an inch in front. Back half of rider's portion seems about 1/2" lower than stock '06. Seems much firmer and passenger section is now textured like the front instead of smooth like the '06, I kind of liked it better before. | ||
| Warbaby |
My question might have seemed strange. I've got a screwed-up lower back (which is why I sold my Busa--the forward lean with low bars was killing me). I have a `06 low seat now and, with the stock Uly handlebar, it feels pretty good...the lower, the better for me.  | ||
| Teeps |
WarbabyPosted on Saturday, August 26, 2006 My question might have seemed strange. I've got a screwed-up lower back (which is why I sold my Busa--the forward lean with low bars was killing me). I have a `06 low seat now and, with the stock Uly handlebar, it feels pretty good...the lower, the better for me. For me, it was seat height from the ground. Seating position relative to the handle bars has never been a consideration, for me, yet. That's why I didn't understand the question. Xbimmer does give a more detailed description, and he has more seat time, than me. | ||
| Warbaby |
10-4! The reach to ground is also an issue for me but...I have ordered custom suspension components to lower the bike front and rear to XB12Ss height. | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
I'm tall enough for the ULY but I helped myself by dialing out all of the preload and it allows me to just barely flat foot it. I'd be interested in hearing about your ULY lowering though, just for informational purposes. Love riding the ULY. Love this Badweb. (Message edited by electraglider_1997 on August 26, 2006) | ||
| Daves |
How's it handle with no preload on the back? | ||
| Warbaby |
I'm tall enough for the ULY but I helped myself by dialing out all of the preload and it allows me to just barely flat foot it. I'd be interested in hearing about your ULY lowering though, just for informational purposes. Love riding the ULY. Love this Badweb. The XB12Ss and XB12X share the same chassis if not the same suspension specs. The XB12Ss has 4.66" ground clearance and the XB12X has 6.75". In my case, the difference of slightly over 2" will be eliminated by a custom Penske rear shock and machining, re-valving, and re-springing the front forks. I do not need nearly 7" of ground clearance for solo-touring and twisties. The suspension calculations were made by GMD Computrack in Atlanta by analyzing my Uly on their precision, optical chassis measuring machine--some pics are here: http://www.zenfire.ws/buell.htm The bike's trail will increase very slightly in the process and, after sag and other suspension calibrations are dialed in, suspension quality should improve significantly for my style of street riding/touring. It's a pricey but effective solution with the side benefits of being able to flat-foot the ground with a 30" inseam and reduced front-end dive during braking. | ||
| Mainstreamer |
Tom, I'm interested in the results of your lowering project. Sounds like something I may want to do. Please keep us informed of your progress. R U running the stock windshield? I'd prefer more wind protection but haven't come across the right solution yet. | ||
| Warbaby |
Will do. Yes, I'm still running the stock screen...so far. | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
Daves, Handles fine for my type of riding. I'm 6'1/2" and weigh about 205. Everything else is set up as it was at the dealer when I bought it. No complaints about the suspension. I've never had a bike with all these adjustments and wouldn't know if it is dialed in or not. Works for me though. | ||
| Javadog |
Warbaby- I am very interested in having my Uly lowered. About how much did this cost at Computrack and how long did it take them? I've been trying to get in touch with Tom C.(buelldualsport) but when I e-mail him my mail is returned saying the mailbox no longer exists. | ||
| Warbaby |
I have only paid for the Penske shock ($745) and the optical chassis analysis ($150). The custom Penske shock was ordered 8/15/06 and should arrive at GMD any day now (I was told about 15 days), at which time, the Uly goes back to GMD for the full suspension makeover. A total ballpark price is $1,500 but there are several Penske options that can run that up higher. If interested, I suggest that you contact Kent Soignier (the manager) here: http://www.gmdcomputrack.com/ Kent is brilliant in the suspension arena and will answer all your questions--it's what they do. Kenny Roberts and a bunch of other pro racers think their suspension work is superb. That's good enough for me.  Let me know if I can help. | ||
| Warbaby |
Motomickey - The thread-jacking was unintentional...sorry! | ||
| Teeps |
Warbaby Posted on Saturday, August 26, 2006 I have ordered custom suspension components to lower the bike front and rear to XB12Ss heigh What are you going to do with the stock rear shock? If the stock shock can be disassembled. I know a guy that says he can revalve and shorten the travel on the stock shock. His modification should not be too costly either. | ||
| Warbaby |
I'll probably list it in the BWB classified section. | ||
| Xbimmer |
Warbaby, you're building the bike that I've said before should be Buell's Standard. Big seat, hard bags, adequate fuel capacity, more room. Cost is relative, if you get the bike you want then great. Good for you! Please keep us posted! Oh yeah, the seat thread. Today sometime I came to terms with my '07 seat. I'm satisfied. Now I need an Orange/black one!  | ||
| Motomickey |
I am curious why you went with the penske shock rather than having the suspension modified and set up from someone like RACETECH. They would have most likely done the whole deal for less than the price of the shock. The 07 seat is awesome. | ||
| Warbaby |
Suspension compliance/tuning is my primary concern, not cost. | ||
| Motomickey |
The Showa stuff on these bikes is actually pretty good equipment-worthy of experimentation at a minimum. It is one of the main reasons the bike is the most expensive (non-race) Buell. Keep us posted on how well it works out. (Message edited by motomickey on August 28, 2006) | ||
| Fubar |
Add a vote for the '07 seat. As Xbimmer says, firmer and more comfortable. I am as happy with this $100 seat as I was with my $500 Corbin on my GeezerGlide. Thanks Buell. bj |
