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Ka5ysy
Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 10:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok: revised Prometheus Standard features:

Hydraulic clutch. 60MPG multigrade fuel engine. 6 speed transmission.

More steering lock, tkc-80's, bigger gas tank, Fully adjustable seats 2" up or down, standard. HID headlights with modulator, LED Strobes on stop tail light. Heat deflectors integral to the cooling fan assembly. A real center stand wrapped around the race-kit muffler. Handle bar weights and frame sliders.Carbon Fiber everything to save weight for the new stuff. Really loud horn.

6"diagonal multifunction TFT display with adjustable color backlight, display pages selectable by left handlebar switch.

Display standard features :
all data transducers and digital devices to be USBII compliant modules to display:
Speedometer, three trip odometers, Tach, Fuel level, MPG and fuel remaining time/distance and engine and transmission temp, atomic clock with in-motion time.

Diagnostics display includes TPS and all critical engine information and mapping, programmable via touch screen input.

Optional digital accessories interfacing to Multifunction display:

GPS module with full street maps and terrain mapping, plus either XM and weather service or Sirius Radio

Optional complete dealer software package mac/pc software USB interface for diagnostics and mapping adjustment, as well as accessing maintenance manual and historical operational data recorder, and uploading software upgrades and GPS maps.

Optional Basic took kit either MAC or Snap-On.

Basic vehicle cost now 13,000.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Saturday, May 13, 2006 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Could you make an aircooled Diesel in a 45 degree pushrod twin configuration? I have no idea what the demands of the engine are...

I can't remember ever seeing an aircooled diesel described. Bet the things are loud without that water jacket.
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Crusty
Posted on Saturday, May 13, 2006 - 01:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Deutch diesel Industrial engines are air cooled, and while they're kind of noisy, they're not that bad. I've seen them used in mining equipment in tunnels and they didn't seem to be louder than liquid cooled diesel engines in similar applications. That's purely a subjective observation, since hearing protection was mandatory and necessary.
I don't believe that a Diesel variant of the Buell engine would be as quiet as what is currently being used, though. I definitely think it would make considerably less power.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Saturday, May 13, 2006 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll buy one of those but I'm ready for a water cooled engine that can use any fuel just like my brother's surplus Duece n 1/2 truck. It's diesel but he says it'll run on gas also. And I want a factory stock adjustable windscreen with 12" of play if that is possible. And how about this: Push button control of full power or economy mode for 100 per gallon cruising. I mean, most of the time when you are eating miles you'd rather it got great fuel economy. Other times you want to rip.
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Ka5ysy
Posted on Saturday, May 13, 2006 - 02:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Electraglider; that multigrade fuel engine in the old Duece and a half will burn just about anything flammable. We once upon a time rigged up a fuel line into some Jack Daniel black label on a bet and the thing actually ran. Not well, but it did light off. Actually it preferred everclear or straight alcohol, but we were amazed. I still dont understand how they got that diesel to do that!

For some diesel bikes check this out:
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_bikes.html
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Davo
Posted on Saturday, May 13, 2006 - 04:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am going to go waaaaay out on a limb. I think the reason for the box like synthetic push rod tubes is for a future modification. They could be used to house an overhead cam system! One chain like a serpentine belt, up and around the overhead cam. Back down and around a cam gear then back up and around the second cam and then back down. It could work. Just replace two cams with double stacked gears. Put some cams in the heads, a chain and you got it. Just a wild guess. If I had the resources I would give it a shot.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 06:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think it would be better to go with a single overhead cam driven by a bevel-geared shaft.
You know, like an old Ducati?
Can you have overhead cams with hydraulic lifters?
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Lorazepam
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 04:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I dont think the OHC is compatible with hyd lifters. The lifters work off a cam (see it has one, just down below) and push a rod that activates a rocker arm, which in turn pushes the valve.

With the OHC, you would move the cam to where the rocker arms are, and instead of a lower cam, have a gear to drive a chain looped over another gear on the cams you placed up top.

Hope that cleared things up for you natexlh
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Soloyosh
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 08:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Most OHC engines in cars have Hydraulic lifters. The only car I've had that required regular valve adjustments was my SHO. It took Yamaha valve shims. My 2.3 SOHC Turbo Merkur had hydraulic tappets.

Cheers
Brett
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Whodom
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 09:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Deutch diesel Industrial engines are air cooled, and while they're kind of noisy, they're not that bad. I've seen them used in mining equipment in tunnels and they didn't seem to be louder than liquid cooled diesel engines in similar applications.

Crusty, in the early 70's, there were a lot of Deutch diesel farm tractors in this part of the U.S. (South Carolina). I can remember they actually advertised them on the radio. The ad said the engines were machined so precisely that they required no head gaskets.

They seem to have been a fairly brief fad; I haven't seen one in about 20 years.
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Chauly
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

<<they>>

They merged with Allis a few years back.
"AGCO Allis
1990-Present

AGCO was born when the US management of the Deutz-Allis corporation bought out the North American side of the company and renamed it AGCO (Allis-Gleaner Company). Tractors are distributed under the AGCO Allis name. AGCO acquired White in 1991, Massey Ferguson in 1994, Fendt in 1997, Caterpillar's Challenger line in 2002, and Valtra (formerly Valmet) in 2002. In 2001, The AGCO White and AGCO Allis names were dropped in favor of the AGCO brand."
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Ulendo
Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 11:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

just to stoke the fires a bit - check this out

http://www.2si.com/

2 stroke multi fuelers, and yup, they're small enough for a bike format ( *** no comment on power, emissions, or suitability though - just for the chuckle factor folks)
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