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Shoggin
Posted on Wednesday, September 20, 2017 - 09:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I posted this in the EBR forum as well..

On a 2014 SX

I have got as far as having both the stock dash and ECM updated and confirmed the quick shifter function had been "turned on". I can see the dash diagnostics go from 1.3V to 0.0V at the side stand when I activate it, but nothing actually happens when I ride it?

Some deets:
It is a Dynojet 4-113 linear push sensor wired into the factory harness. I have used a different type of grounding sensor as well (no luck there either)
I also have an IDS ECM. I am told has the shifter function enabled as well... that does not work... but also sees the voltage drop on the dash diagnostics.
It doesn't work on a stand, in gear, clutch out, and manually grounding the signal wire to the ECM either.

I have repeatedly asked EBRtech and all he has said is it "needs a different signal that just a ground" but won't elaborate further. Nor do I understand how that could be possible with their EBR 2 wire switch between a ground and a signal wire? Resting 'open' and grounding when activated is all I can guess?

I know for a fact this exact Dynojet sensor works on a 2014 RX with the IDS ECM.

I am frustrated and cant get EBR tech to elaborate?

I'm a pretty tech savvy guy, and I'd assume if the dash can see the voltage drop on the side stand where you wire it that's all you need?
Do I need to swap the pins in the ECM input like some XB's? If so...where???

Thanks for any help guys
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Ourdee
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2017 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does the tech possibly mean that it has to be running, rolling, and within the correct parameters to function? ie. not just sitting in the shop.
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Snacktoast
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2017 - 07:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good point Ourdee. EBRs race ecms for XB & 1125 required that you were at WOT for the function to work. Is it the same for EBR models?
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Ourdee
Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2017 - 09:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ask Dean Adams. I believe he is running one.
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Toxic
Posted on Friday, September 29, 2017 - 03:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My EBR race ECM doesn't require full throttle for the QS to work
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D_adams
Posted on Friday, September 29, 2017 - 01:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Full throttle upshifts are not required, nor at redline. I've shifted mine below 6k rpm at mid to light throttle input.
I'll ask Dan or Tim to see if I can get clarification on the wiring, I have the EBR factory kit.
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Shoggin
Posted on Friday, September 29, 2017 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would REALLY appreciate that. The IDS ECM pin-out didn't reveal anything
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D_adams
Posted on Saturday, September 30, 2017 - 09:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"ECM needs a signal ground reference and a signal. Some sensors require 5VDC for power, that's the 3rd wire."

The EBR kit does not use the power wire. Only 2 are required. Tan/white goes to the sidestand switch, Black/white goes to pin 28, sensor ground #2, both of these are on the gray ecm connection.
From looking at the dynojet documentation, it's a 2 wire switch and does not matter which wire connects to the harness. It's just a momentary interrupt, sends a signal to the ecm saying "hey, kill power a second" and that's it.
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D_adams
Posted on Saturday, September 30, 2017 - 09:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Also, I believe the dynojet software allows you to program the interrupt time (length or duration) and minimum rpm required.
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Shoggin
Posted on Sunday, October 01, 2017 - 02:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thats true Dean, but I'm not using the Dynojet computer. Simply using the 4-104 sensor which should send a ground signal to the activated EBR ECM just like the EBR sensor does. And this Dynojet sensor works on a friends RX.
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