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Zac4mac
Posted on Monday, July 13, 2015 - 01:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No charts or anything yet but made a couple of runs over the weekend.
First, bone stock except removed the secondary can on the side - 144HP max.
Next day, pulled the primary can and ran, still stock, on just the headers - 155HP peak

Should be getting my tunable ECM this week.
Sending Kevin my stock can and the Drummer from Loretta, my 1125R.
He's going to make me a Y-pipe to temporarily run it on the RS.

All for now.

Z

Oh yeah, just headers was painfully loud.

(Message edited by zac4mac on July 13, 2015)
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Mrsuperbuckets
Posted on Monday, July 13, 2015 - 12:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I bet you will make 165-170
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Readyxb
Posted on Monday, July 13, 2015 - 07:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A post by d_adams on ebr forum shows that his stock 1190RX made 160 hp. How does your stock 1190RS minus secondary can make 16 hp less?

http://ebrforum.com/showthread.php?251-Exhaust-tha t-does-the-1190-RIGHT&p=2966&viewfull=1#post2966
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46champ
Posted on Monday, July 13, 2015 - 07:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Zac you are doing a dyno pull at a mile above sea level. Are the numbers you get the actual numbers or do they have some factor built in to compensate for the altitude?
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Snacktoast
Posted on Monday, July 13, 2015 - 08:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The stock primary muffler on the RS is more restrictive than the RX primary muffler.
As a result an "uncorked" RS with a race exhaust performs really well.
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Phelan
Posted on Monday, July 13, 2015 - 11:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They are corrected numbers. For comparison, we dyno'd an SX as well, bone stock with about 30 miles on it, yesterday as well, and got 152 RWHP IIRC. The stock exhaust for both each incredibly restrictive.

(Message edited by phelan on July 14, 2015)
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Zac4mac
Posted on Tuesday, July 14, 2015 - 03:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The SX only made 152. Hehehehehehh

Z
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Buelliedan
Posted on Tuesday, July 14, 2015 - 05:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

THE NRHS dyno is quite conservative it seems when I compare it to other results I have seen. You ought to see some of the dyno charts my competition posts!!!
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Zac4mac
Posted on Tuesday, July 14, 2015 - 10:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I did some real simple math -
The primaries dump into the muffler with a cross section of almost 9 square inches.
The 2 little exit tubes have a combined c/s of a little less than 2.5 square inches.

Stay tuned

Z
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Snacktoast
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2015 - 01:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do you guys have a Dynojet dyno? 5th gear pulls?
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Stevel
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2015 - 04:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think the measured numbers are realistic. It is the higher numbers that are bantered around that is fiction.
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D_adams
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2015 - 05:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't know where the post is currently (I'd have to search for it) but Erik posted that the average 1190 RX/SX hp numbers were 160-162 at the wheel in stock trim. I know he doesn't typically post that type of info to keep from getting involved in hp/torque wars, but that's direct from the man. WSBK hp was north of 200 at the wheel, something like 205 maybe.
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Phelan
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2015 - 09:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think it has more to do with the fact that the SX has 30 miles on it.

(Message edited by phelan on July 15, 2015)
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Zac4mac
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2015 - 11:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes, it's compensated for temp, elevation and humidity.
Dan's dyno is a Dynojet 250i.
Pulls done in 5th.

Z
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Classax
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2015 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

On a hot humid day my bike thru down 159Hp on a dynojet which corrected to 165hp according to the machine. On that same dyno on an even hotter, more humid day it only managed 163HP corrected to 170HP with the race ECU and no resonator for a pick up of roughly 4 peak HP. All along EBR said they were able to pick up some power in the design of the RX over the RS.

It's funny how the industry kind of scoffs at 160rwhp from a bike that makes 185HP at the crank in favor of bikes like the R1 which claims to make 201hp at the crank but can only spin the drum to a corrected 167rwhp or S1KRR that can spin the drum at 182rwHP but requires so much use of TC to hustle around the track.

Especially when it was just 2012 that the S1KRR saw the same scoffers herald it as having "more power than 99% of riders could ever use"-Motorcycle.com- and that bike only put down 175RWHP
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